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BumRushDaShow

(163,465 posts)
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 03:52 AM Nov 11

Dad says he and his toddler were pepper sprayed by federal immigration agents

Source: NBC News/AP

Nov. 10, 2025, 4:15 PM EST


CHICAGO — A suburban Chicago father and his 1-year-old daughter were pepper-sprayed at close range as they were headed to go grocery shopping over the weekend and happened upon federal immigration agents, the family said.

Rafael Veraza said the incident happened in a Sam's Club parking lot in Cicero on Saturday, amid escalating clashes that day between immigration agents and frustrated area residents. The suburb shares a border with the Chicago neighborhood of Little Village, a largely Mexican enclave that has frequently been at the center of a federal immigration crackdown that began two months ago in the nation's third-largest city.

Veraza said the family was in their car when they heard a helicopter and honking, common signals in the Chicago area these days that federal agents are nearby. They decided to leave.

That's when a masked agent pointed a pepper-spray gun through their vehicle's open window and fired. A cloudy substance hit Veraza in the face, which also affected his daughter, according to a video taken by the family.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/chicago-family-pepper-spray-allegations-ice-immigration-cicero-rcna242536

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Dad says he and his toddler were pepper sprayed by federal immigration agents (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Nov 11 OP
Why isn't Chicago PD protecting Chicago residents from these violent, criminal attacks? SunSeeker Nov 11 #1
"Why isn't Chicago PD protecting Chicago residents" BumRushDaShow Nov 11 #2
Cicero lists 24 officers on its police department. They should be protecting their residents. SunSeeker Nov 11 #8
The township that one of my sisters lives in has 36 police officers BumRushDaShow Nov 11 #11
Yes, and Cicero's residents are predominantly Latino, but the cops certainly aren't. SunSeeker Nov 11 #13
I expect that's the case and there definitely aren't enough for that size metro BumRushDaShow Nov 11 #15
I imagine they coordinate with Chicago PD, like my little suburban town does with LAPD. SunSeeker Nov 11 #16
Well remember - CA is majority minority (that "majority" mostly Hispanic) state BumRushDaShow Nov 11 #17
Republican family values Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 11 #3
Chicago and Cicero is occupied by armed domestic terrorists, paid for with our tax dollars. Timeflyer Nov 11 #4
Trump's paid hoodlums are terrorizing American oasis Nov 11 #5
America's Gestapo aka federal immigration agents, ICE and Homeland Security republianmushroom Nov 11 #6
I am pretty sure that SAMS popsdenver Nov 11 #7
Sams Club, named after Wal-Mart founder Sam Walton, is Wal-Mart's answer to Costco. SunSeeker Nov 11 #9
Sam's Club is owned by Walmart BumRushDaShow Nov 11 #10
Once again, thx BRDS popsdenver Nov 11 #18
Most welcome! BumRushDaShow Nov 11 #19
First thing popsdenver Nov 11 #20
Don't believe your own eyes orangecrush Nov 11 #12
What if that child had asthma, and died from being pepper sprayed? Bayard Nov 11 #14

BumRushDaShow

(163,465 posts)
2. "Why isn't Chicago PD protecting Chicago residents"
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 05:15 AM
Nov 11

Because -

A suburban Chicago father


It didn't happen in the city of Chicago but one of the suburban towns - Cicero, IL - which is almost 90% Hispanic. It's not a small town either (used to be a big Italian enclave, including of Al Capone fame, and is now mostly Hispanic).

BumRushDaShow

(163,465 posts)
11. The township that one of my sisters lives in has 36 police officers
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 02:51 PM
Nov 11

and is 1/4 the size in population (at 20,000) of Cicero (which has over 80,000).

There is obviously a problem there!

SunSeeker

(57,297 posts)
13. Yes, and Cicero's residents are predominantly Latino, but the cops certainly aren't.
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 03:18 PM
Nov 11

Which could be part of the problem.

SunSeeker

(57,297 posts)
16. I imagine they coordinate with Chicago PD, like my little suburban town does with LAPD.
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 03:31 PM
Nov 11

But LAPD is 50% Hispanic, unlike Cicero PD, which has only 3 out of 24 officers with Hispanic surnames.

BumRushDaShow

(163,465 posts)
17. Well remember - CA is majority minority (that "majority" mostly Hispanic) state
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 03:40 PM
Nov 11

and LA is so sprawling, you pretty much HAVE to have that kind of coordination.

I live a couple blocks from the border between Philly and that suburban county with Springfield Township and they DO coordinate right on the county line (although the Springfield cops are usually there on the scene of a car accident, no matter what side of the border, WAY BEFORE the Philly cops get there ).

oasis

(53,200 posts)
5. Trump's paid hoodlums are terrorizing American
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 08:09 AM
Nov 11

cities without immediate consequences. I’m sure there will be a ton of documentation about this ugly period.

popsdenver

(1,056 posts)
7. I am pretty sure that SAMS
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 02:02 PM
Nov 11

is owned by Walmart, and caters to mexican clients???? Anyone know?????

Not sure, but if that is the case, ....that they want to pick on Walmart........they must know about some of the top 1/10th of the top 1% Billionaires own it......

SunSeeker

(57,297 posts)
9. Sams Club, named after Wal-Mart founder Sam Walton, is Wal-Mart's answer to Costco.
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 02:34 PM
Nov 11

I don't think it specifically caters to Mexican clients. Like Costco, you have to pay a yearly membership fee to shop there.

BumRushDaShow

(163,465 posts)
10. Sam's Club is owned by Walmart
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 02:36 PM
Nov 11

and there is one not far from me in suburban Philly (one of my BILs used to hang out there to get BBQ stuff and I have been in there a couple times), but it wasn't specifically catering to Mexicans (we don't have that many here in the Philly metro area).

Most of the Mexicans here are probably in Delaware county near the mushroom farms in Kennett Square and there are other concentrations of them in Reading and Allentown, PA. The rest of the Hispanics in this area have been mostly Puerto Ricans, Cubans, and Dominicans, and more recently, a mix from a variety of Central American countries.

Although there is a Costco sort of near me too, I have yet to get there, but I think it's the same principal there too - the sale of inexpensive "bulk quantities" of stuff like food, household products, etc., and they have departments with other items (furniture, small appliances, etc) - both warehouse stores having an annual "membership card" (for a fee). Another similar one was BJ's (that I used to get a lot of mailers for but had never been in one).

popsdenver

(1,056 posts)
18. Once again, thx BRDS
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 05:30 PM
Nov 11

You are the posts I most often read because they are the best...........and most informative, esp with stuff no one has.......you must have copious "Insiders" everywhere!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BumRushDaShow

(163,465 posts)
19. Most welcome!
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 05:46 PM
Nov 11

Alot of it is "been there done that" (with some where I even "wore the T-shirt" ).

popsdenver

(1,056 posts)
20. First thing
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 05:52 PM
Nov 11

I scan for your commentaries, read them, and then move on to Heather Cox Richardson......

orangecrush

(27,607 posts)
12. Don't believe your own eyes
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 03:10 PM
Nov 11

From the link -

"The U.S. Department of Homeland Security flatly rejected the family's account.

"There was no crowd control or pepper spray deployed in a Sam's Club parking lot," Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin said in a statement sent to the Associated Press Monday."

Video -


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Bayard

(27,826 posts)
14. What if that child had asthma, and died from being pepper sprayed?
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 03:24 PM
Nov 11

They would still claim it never happened, or--"Score one for our side." The dad did have asthma, and both had to go to the hospital. I'd say that's pretty damning.

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