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mahatmakanejeeves

(67,506 posts)
Mon Oct 27, 2025, 06:27 AM Oct 27

Air traffic control staffing problems spiked over the weekend, raising concerns about growing disruption

Source: CNN

Air traffic control staffing problems spiked over the weekend, raising concerns about growing disruption

PUBLISHED OCT 27, 2025, 4:00 AM ET
By Zoe Sottile, Aaron Cooper, Pete Muntean


A flight takes off past the air traffic control tower at Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport in Arlington, Virginia, on October 8. Nathan Howard/Reuters

Air traffic controller staffing shortages worsened over the weekend as the nation's government shutdown hit its fourth week, leading to delays and anxiety, and experts say it won't get better until air traffic controllers get paid.

More than 50 staffing shortages have been reported since Friday morning, causing delays from Los Angeles to Washington, DC, according to an operations update. Controllers are considered essential workers, so they must work during the shutdown, but are not being paid.

Flights for Los Angeles International Airport were temporarily halted Sunday because of a staffing shortage at the Southern California TRACON, which handles flights arriving or departing. At Reagan National Airport in Arlington, Virginia, staffing issues caused a ground delay Sunday that was expected to last until midnight.

Since October 1, there have been at least 264 instances of staffing problems reported at FAA facilities. That's more than four times the 60 that reported problems on the same dates last year. ... Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy said Sunday controllers are "wearing thin" and calling in sick as they continue to go without pay for what is difficult, complex work.

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Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/27/us/air-traffic-control-government-shutdown

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Air traffic control staffing problems spiked over the weekend, raising concerns about growing disruption (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Oct 27 OP
Wow, imagine that . . . hatrack Oct 27 #1
Game three of World Series is tonight rzemanfl Oct 27 #2
Just in time for me to have to travel for work! Happy Hoosier Oct 27 #3
Next Wednesday I head out to Georgia via Jacksonville. ProudMNDemocrat Oct 27 #4
Yes .............the military and the ATC have interlocking systems if the regional TRANCONS go unmanned........... turbinetree Oct 27 #6
when my husband and I traveled, we would stay at Air Force bases. ProudMNDemocrat Oct 27 #7
It is a basic FAA requirement and Military under these two programs listed below........ turbinetree Oct 27 #12
Again this is about public safety being placed in a situation that will not end well........ turbinetree Oct 27 #5
Trump will order them back to work if it keeps up. mn9driver Oct 27 #8
This is intentional Owens Oct 27 #9
Trump wants a disaster Miguelito Loveless Oct 27 #10
He already did that newdeal2 Oct 27 #13
Stop voting for republicans! Initech Oct 27 #11

ProudMNDemocrat

(20,391 posts)
4. Next Wednesday I head out to Georgia via Jacksonville.
Mon Oct 27, 2025, 08:52 AM
Oct 27

If the Air Traffic controllers walk off the job nationally, the Airline Industry comes to a halt. He cannot fire them all!

Do not the pilots for Air Force 1 need air traffic controllers to know where if is when in the air?

Avionics are a funny thing, being that my late husband flew single engine air planes for many years and Air traffic controllers were vital to making sure we were on course, were alerted if traffic was in the area, keeping the skies clear, even when he would file an Instrument flight plan, knowing when cleared to land, etc. He was IFR certified.

turbinetree

(26,772 posts)
6. Yes .............the military and the ATC have interlocking systems if the regional TRANCONS go unmanned...........
Mon Oct 27, 2025, 09:24 AM
Oct 27

the industry comes to a stand still......the military system is generally only in the region of where the base is located.........
I firmly believe everyone in the commercial side should go a general strike nationwide.............there is not enough people to fill those spots with scabs, .................

https://www.boeing.com/commercial/market/pilot-technician-outlook

https://investors.boeing.com/investors/news/press-release-details/2025/Boeing-Forecasts-20-Year-Global-Demand-for-Nearly-2-4-Million-New-Commercial-Pilots-Technicians-Cabin-Crew/default.aspx

ProudMNDemocrat

(20,391 posts)
7. when my husband and I traveled, we would stay at Air Force bases.
Mon Oct 27, 2025, 09:38 AM
Oct 27

Last edited Mon Oct 27, 2025, 04:19 PM - Edit history (1)

There would be Control Towers and military trained controllers to make sure that flights taking off were safe to do so.

Bases with Fighter Wings were the same be that at Travis, Elmendorf, Lackland, Minot, Kirtland, Nellis, Offut, etc. We have stayed at many in the country. So that the Civilian and Military air traffic controllers are interlocked, does not surprise me.

turbinetree

(26,772 posts)
12. It is a basic FAA requirement and Military under these two programs listed below........
Mon Oct 27, 2025, 04:04 PM
Oct 27

FAA Order JO 7340.2P

FAA Order JO 7210.54C

turbinetree

(26,772 posts)
5. Again this is about public safety being placed in a situation that will not end well........
Mon Oct 27, 2025, 09:13 AM
Oct 27

every pilot, flight attendant, mechanic, ground personnel should go on general strike to support the ATC personnel..........and then you will see pressure building on the maga and that guy with orange hair and his minions.................its about money and when they have a stoppage in money..............

mn9driver

(4,798 posts)
8. Trump will order them back to work if it keeps up.
Mon Oct 27, 2025, 11:14 AM
Oct 27

Because who wouldn’t want a controller working flights when they are sick or fatigued?

Owens

(575 posts)
9. This is intentional
Mon Oct 27, 2025, 12:25 PM
Oct 27

Trump and the Regime do not want people leaving/fleeing the country when he starts a war with Venezuela. Watch how he will attempt to close state borders to keep people from fleeing red states.

newdeal2

(4,497 posts)
13. He already did that
Mon Oct 27, 2025, 07:46 PM
Oct 27

Hard to remember but his term started with a bunch of airplane disasters that he then blamed on Biden.

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