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BumRushDaShow

(161,018 posts)
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 12:43 PM 16 hrs ago

Trump 'Determined' the U.S. Is Now in a War With Drug Cartels, Congress Is Told

Source: New York Times

Oct. 2, 2025, 12:26 p.m. ET


President Trump has decided that the United States is engaged in a formal “armed conflict” with drug cartels his team has labeled terrorist organizations and that suspected smugglers for such groups are “unlawful combatants,” the administration said in a confidential notice to Congress this week. The notice was sent to several congressional committees and obtained by The New York Times.

It adds new detail to the administration’s thinly articulated legal rationale for why three U.S. military strikes the president ordered on boats in the Caribbean Sea last month, killing all 17 people aboard them, should be seen as lawful rather than murder. Mr. Trump’s move to formally deem his campaign against drug cartels as an active armed conflict means he is cementing his claim to extraordinary wartime powers, legal specialists said.

In an armed conflict, as defined by international law, a country can lawfully kill enemy fighters even when they pose no threat, detain them indefinitely without trials and prosecute them in military courts. Geoffrey S. Corn, a retired judge advocate general lawyer who was formerly the Army’s senior adviser for law-of-war issues, said drug cartels were not engaged in “hostilities” — the standard for when there is an armed conflict for legal purposes — against the United States because selling a dangerous product is different than an armed attack.

Noting that it is illegal for the military to deliberately target civilians who are not directly participating in hostilities — even suspected criminals — Mr. Corn called the president’s move an “abuse” that crossed a major legal line. “This is not stretching the envelope,” he said. “This is shredding it. This is tearing it apart.” The White House did not respond to a request for comment.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/02/us/politics/trump-drug-cartels-war.html



No paywall (gift)

He is spiraling the nation into an abyss.
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Trump 'Determined' the U.S. Is Now in a War With Drug Cartels, Congress Is Told (Original Post) BumRushDaShow 16 hrs ago OP
Jr.'s and Eloons, too? /nt bucolic_frolic 16 hrs ago #1
The Anti-Christ is blood thirsty, GreenWave 16 hrs ago #2
Trump doesn't care about the drug trade. What is his real motive? Irish_Dem 16 hrs ago #3
He wants the oil. mwmisses4289 15 hrs ago #7
Venezuela has the largest oil reserves in the world. Irish_Dem 15 hrs ago #8
I don't think he is like Poppy or Shrub and cares about oil BumRushDaShow 13 hrs ago #12
You haven't been paying attention. Blackjackdavey 10 hrs ago #16
Sure. Irish_Dem 9 hrs ago #17
And how about those Epstein files?? N/T tonekat 15 hrs ago #4
So, I guess the War Powers Act is now null and void. MLWR 15 hrs ago #5
Mexico is concerned about the number of guns coming into their country from the US. twodogsbarking 15 hrs ago #6
Drug cartels only exist in blue states or any state where the governor hasn't kissed the golden ring or if twodogsbarking 14 hrs ago #9
Can he legally declare war on the Sacklers and Purdue Pharmaceuticals? LiberalArkie 14 hrs ago #10
Congress has the power to declare war Qutzupalotl 13 hrs ago #11
Now will they finally give him the Nobel Peace Prize he so richly deserves???? (nt) muriel_volestrangler 13 hrs ago #13
He does not understand whatctgg he at means. James48 12 hrs ago #14
Does this include the cartel family members Trump brought into our country in the travelingthrulife 11 hrs ago #15

Irish_Dem

(75,644 posts)
3. Trump doesn't care about the drug trade. What is his real motive?
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 12:47 PM
16 hrs ago

He along with his friends, family, and employees have been doing hard drug for decades.

If anything, he wants a cut of the drug cartel profits, like Putin gets.
And to justify the random killing of people.

BumRushDaShow

(161,018 posts)
12. I don't think he is like Poppy or Shrub and cares about oil
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 03:23 PM
13 hrs ago

He would want some gold mines in "shithole countries".

I think this is a pretext to declaring the U.S. "at war" in order to invoke some nonsensical "emergency powers".

Thing is - only Congress can "declare war".

Blackjackdavey

(241 posts)
16. You haven't been paying attention.
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 06:25 PM
10 hrs ago

He has been clear. He wants to bring manufacturing back to America.

twodogsbarking

(16,042 posts)
6. Mexico is concerned about the number of guns coming into their country from the US.
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 01:20 PM
15 hrs ago

They haven't resorted to the barbaric tactics used in the US.

twodogsbarking

(16,042 posts)
9. Drug cartels only exist in blue states or any state where the governor hasn't kissed the golden ring or if
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 01:53 PM
14 hrs ago

Trump decides he doesn't like you. He hates everybody, 'cept for the cross lady. Oh, those lips.

Qutzupalotl

(15,522 posts)
11. Congress has the power to declare war
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 03:05 PM
13 hrs ago

per the Constitution, not the president.

We should have pushed back harder against W when he arrogated that power for himself. But Congress was cowed.

James48

(4,966 posts)
14. He does not understand whatctgg he at means.
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 04:08 PM
12 hrs ago

If he is declaring war, and calling them unlawful combatants- then it is now totally legal to shot and kill any American in uniform. It’s not murder when it’s done in a declared war.

That is not good.

travelingthrulife

(3,383 posts)
15. Does this include the cartel family members Trump brought into our country in the
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 05:38 PM
11 hrs ago

dead of night after they produced the payola.

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