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mahatmakanejeeves

(66,841 posts)
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 07:46 AM 19 hrs ago

National Weather Service at 'breaking point' as storm approaches

Last edited Sat Sep 27, 2025, 05:19 PM - Edit history (2)

Source: Washington Post

National Weather Service at 'breaking point' as storm approaches

The agency is struggling to maintain its weather forecasting operations due to significant staffing cuts under the Trump administration.

By Hannah Natanson and Brady Dennis
1 hour ago


A weather forecaster works at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's National Hurricane Center in Miami in May. (Chandan Khanna/AFP/Getty Images)

By Hannah Natanson and Brady Dennis

Some National Weather Service staffers are working double shifts to keep forecasting offices open. Others are operating under a "buddy system," in which adjacent offices help monitor severe weather in understaffed regions. Still others are jettisoning services deemed not absolutely necessary, such as making presentations to schoolchildren.

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By Hannah Natanson
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By Brady Dennis
Brady Dennis is a Pulitzer Prize-winning national reporter for The Washington Post, focusing on environmental and climate stories, primarily around the Southeast. He previously has covered the Environmental Protection Agency, international climate policy, the Food and Drug Administration and the nation's economy. follow on X@brady_dennis
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Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/09/27/national-weather-service-staffing-crisis/



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I don't have a subscription to the WaPo, and I'm on a phone. I can add a little bit of material later, but not right now.
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National Weather Service at 'breaking point' as storm approaches (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves 19 hrs ago OP
Rich Republicans don't care Champp 19 hrs ago #1
Future Imelda is on track for a direct hit on a red state Catbird 19 hrs ago #2
Watching from Georgia SouthernDem4ever 18 hrs ago #5
They've already gone downhill ...... groundloop 19 hrs ago #3
Yeah, didn't Musk and Krasnov ground the Ilsa 8 hrs ago #24
I'm surprised Jeff Bozos is allowing this article mdbl 19 hrs ago #4
MF#$% grounded all the hurricane hunter planes. lark 18 hrs ago #6
What storm? What fantastical magic are you using? Buddyzbuddy 18 hrs ago #7
Hurricanes can not be real... Prove it from the bible.. The bible says nothing about hurricanes. LiberalArkie 18 hrs ago #9
archive and excerpts (A&E's) progree 18 hrs ago #8
Thanks for the archived link FakeNoose 18 hrs ago #10
YW 😊 progree 15 hrs ago #14
WaPo paywall is challenging. mahatmakanejeeves 14 hrs ago #17
I remember about 20 years ago accessing NY Times and such by using my library card progree 13 hrs ago #19
I did not realize that RussBLib 10 hrs ago #23
Oh, I'd guess that a majority of DU people have gone ahead and registered with the WaPo, since I see a lot progree 7 hrs ago #25
Well, try this one to the NYT RussBLib 6 hrs ago #26
I can read the article just fine -- I get a panel covering the bottom 1/4 of the page , saying, progree 2 hrs ago #28
I guess all those kids and camp personnel in Texas just drowned for nothing on July 4. Paladin 17 hrs ago #11
I've followed NOAA & the National Hurricane Center for yrs & can't see any difference in the quality of reporting so far ancianita 17 hrs ago #12
I have noticed that the regular Farmer-Rick 15 hrs ago #13
Understandable that different regions get different quality forecasts. ancianita 15 hrs ago #15
Fear not, trump, and his black marker will protect you. republianmushroom 14 hrs ago #16
Puting on my tinfoil hat, Bayard 13 hrs ago #18
What storm exactly is supposed to hit land? ananda 13 hrs ago #20
Maybe another disaster is necessary to demonstrate how NOAA and FEMA have been laid to waste? Evolve Dammit 11 hrs ago #21
Flawed weather predictions + underfunded and understaffed FEMA ... QueerDuck 10 hrs ago #22
Gonna hit some folks hard. Joinfortmill 5 hrs ago #27
I Thank the ones who are working hard. riversedge 2 hrs ago #29

Champp

(2,132 posts)
1. Rich Republicans don't care
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 07:54 AM
19 hrs ago

They have declared climate change to be fake -- just a lib conspiracy. So for them -- with all their money -- they are just going to ignore this. Let the ordinary people scream about how FEMA is failing them.

Elite Republicans have their Tax Cuts for the Wealthy, so this climate catastrophe just isn't news in their well-feathered sphere of life.

Catbird

(734 posts)
2. Future Imelda is on track for a direct hit on a red state
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 07:58 AM
19 hrs ago

We're getting ready here in South Carolina. We'll see how well the system handles it.

SouthernDem4ever

(6,619 posts)
5. Watching from Georgia
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 08:07 AM
18 hrs ago

South Carolina used to buffer for us until Helene changed that dynamic.

groundloop

(13,308 posts)
3. They've already gone downhill ......
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 07:59 AM
19 hrs ago

Forecast accuracy is noticeably less accurate than previously, most likely due to cuts in data gathering. I expect tRump to privatize our formerly outstanding National Weather Service.

Ilsa

(63,332 posts)
24. Yeah, didn't Musk and Krasnov ground the
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 06:44 PM
8 hrs ago

NOAA flights that gathered data from storm systems?

I hope a big one hits maralago head-on while he's on the golf course.

mdbl

(7,435 posts)
4. I'm surprised Jeff Bozos is allowing this article
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 08:03 AM
19 hrs ago

since it hints at inefficiency at the Dump administration.

Buddyzbuddy

(1,549 posts)
7. What storm? What fantastical magic are you using?
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 08:29 AM
18 hrs ago

Has Oz deemed it to be true? What sayeth the high priests?
Quickly gather your daughters to be given to the great Oz so he may decide who the privileged few are to be prepared for sacrifice in which ever way he so chooses.
I've heard the Republican tribe are most eager to give dear leader whatever he may ask.

LiberalArkie

(18,982 posts)
9. Hurricanes can not be real... Prove it from the bible.. The bible says nothing about hurricanes.
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 09:02 AM
18 hrs ago

Has to be all that "WOKE" stuff. Isn't It?

All Trump has to do is tell the coasties to just ignore it like they did covid and it will all go away.

progree

(12,362 posts)
8. archive and excerpts (A&E's)
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 08:31 AM
18 hrs ago
https://archive.ph/OXhW1

some local forecasting offices lost the ability to operate 24/7, cut back on launching weather balloons or staggered shifts ahead of extreme weather. ...

The situation in one eastern U.S. office is typical, said an employee there, who spoke on the condition of anonymity for fear of losing his job. His office is down nearly half a dozen meteorologists and has been for months, he said, meaning everyone has had to work a lot harder, for longer, to ensure forecasting remains uninterrupted. To reduce the burden on remaining employees, the office switched to requiring only one staffer on each overnight shift, instead of two.

Even so, everyone must take midnight shifts far more often than they used to, the employee said. Staff must also coordinate their vacations so they don’t overlap. And any sudden illness probably means someone has to work a surprise double shift, because “there’s no wiggle room anymore,” the employee said. “People are burning out,” the employee said. “Just in conversations, you can tell everyone is starting to get a little frayed.”

Many offices have ceased launching weather balloons, a vital tool for forecasting, to save time and personnel. And across the country, current and former Weather Service staff said, offices are forgoing their normal outreach and training initiatives for local residents to prioritize the forecast above all else. ((and why that matters, e.g. “education is not reaching emergency managers who will need to coordinate with the NWS to, for example, evacuate people,” -progree))

. . . Bound by a web of rules and laws, federal hiring is often slow, he said. And it’s an open question how many people will want to apply — government work may seem like a bad option, since Trump has stripped away the guaranteed job stability that once made up for the lower pay. Moreover, the Weather Service is in the midst of significant change, as the Trump administration aims to eliminate funding for anything tied to climate change.

On top of that, Masters said, Weather Service job applications are slated to include questions about what potential forecasters would do to further Trump’s policy goals. This change is part of Trump’s broader overhaul of government hiring, meant to transform the nonpartisan, merit-based workforce into one that rewards loyalty to the president.

FakeNoose

(38,756 posts)
10. Thanks for the archived link
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 09:02 AM
18 hrs ago

I wish every poster did this ... but I guess the ones who have a subscription don't realize how annoying this is for the rest of us.

progree

(12,362 posts)
14. YW 😊
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 11:39 AM
15 hrs ago

Last edited Sat Sep 27, 2025, 07:52 PM - Edit history (1)

One very very prolific poster of OP's in LBN told me that he used to include an archive link, but got so much static about it that he stopped doing it (generic he, I just can't get the hang of using "they" as a singular pronoun, unless it's the person's preferred pronoun, in which case I'm 100% on board with that).

Another annoying thing - people who post gift links, the Washington Post being an example, and while I appreciate the thought, what they often don't know is that people have to establish a free account with the WaPo in order to read the gift-linked article. And the first thing it asks in the registration process is, gimme your email. Do I really want Bezos and whoever else he sells it to spamming me?

mahatmakanejeeves

(66,841 posts)
17. WaPo paywall is challenging.
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 12:59 PM
14 hrs ago

I might be able to get two paragraphs if I’m lucky. This is on iPhone with Safari browser, both up to date.

Most public libraries subscribe. Folks can use their library cards to read it.

Thanks, and good afternoon.

progree

(12,362 posts)
19. I remember about 20 years ago accessing NY Times and such by using my library card
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 01:19 PM
13 hrs ago

and going to the library's website and figuring it all out. Maybe I've got a library card around somewhere and maybe it's still valid.

Thanks for the reminder.

Searching archive.ph with the URL is easier, so I haven't been incentivized to go back to the library website era.

RussBLib

(10,206 posts)
23. I did not realize that
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 04:26 PM
10 hrs ago

...that a recipient of a "Gifted Link" has to register to read it.

Perhaps I will stop sending out Gifted Links.

https://russblib.blogspot.com

progree

(12,362 posts)
25. Oh, I'd guess that a majority of DU people have gone ahead and registered with the WaPo, since I see a lot
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 07:28 PM
7 hrs ago

of gift links to WaPo articles around here, and it's probably just a mental tic on my part to resist registering. A lot of people with Amazon accounts figure Bezos already have their phone number (and yes I have an Amazon account). I reason a WaPo registration may open up some additional marketing channels. But mostly it's a mental tic on my part.

As for New York TImes, I don't recall trying out a gift link, so I don't know what happens.

progree

(12,362 posts)
28. I can read the article just fine -- I get a panel covering the bottom 1/4 of the page , saying,
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 12:23 AM
2 hrs ago

"You have access to this article thanks to someone you know. Keep exploring The Times with a free account."

and there is a "Log in or create an account", and a link "Maybe later".

That panel has a "Collapse v" link at the upper right, and yes, it gets rid of the panel.

Out of curiosity, I clicked on "Log in or create an account"
and it asked for an email, but it looks like I can also, alternatively "continue with Google" or "continue with Apple"

Thom Hartmann lives in Portland, it will be interesting to hear what he has to say about it.

Paladin

(31,666 posts)
11. I guess all those kids and camp personnel in Texas just drowned for nothing on July 4.
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 09:29 AM
17 hrs ago

Why am I not surprised that federal weather-monitoring still appears to be in clusterfuck status?

Farmer-Rick

(12,079 posts)
13. I have noticed that the regular
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 11:21 AM
15 hrs ago

5 day forecast from NOAA.gov has gotten worse. They use to be very reliable about predicting rain. But not anymore. We get thunder storms when they predict none and we don't get storms when they predict them.

People around here have turned to the Farmer's almanac. Which is what we use to use about 25 years ago, along with other predictors.

ancianita

(41,996 posts)
15. Understandable that different regions get different quality forecasts.
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 11:41 AM
15 hrs ago

As for 25 years ago, seasonal climate in general was more predictable, and so the Farmer's Almanac still useful. If you think it still is today, given the climate change's seasonal intensity and their increasing cascading effects, then fine, whatever works, right?

As for hurricane regions, the forecasts remain dependably solid since NOAA was established.
NOAA is used by the National Weather Service, which privately sells NOAA data to communications networks. Rain prediction is hardest anywhere because of changing atmospheric dynamics. No forecast can be any better than chance beyond ten days. Worst to predict are local forecasts since locally scattered showers scatter where they will.

Access to good climate/weather information has political ramifications, too.
Adapting to the reality of planet's dynamics is what meteorologists do to help humans decide what to do to survive and thrive. Climate crises without meteorological help have already cause an uptick in human migrations.
Without access to good information, the poor and vulnerable will continue to suffer from both climate and the politics of climate denial.

Bayard

(27,139 posts)
18. Puting on my tinfoil hat,
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 01:15 PM
13 hrs ago

What if its all part of a plan to clear the coasts of people so trump can build more resorts there? Its happening in Gaza.

Go ahead--tell me I'm delusional and paranoid.

Evolve Dammit

(21,246 posts)
21. Maybe another disaster is necessary to demonstrate how NOAA and FEMA have been laid to waste?
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 03:14 PM
11 hrs ago

Even then, it will be Biden's fault.

QueerDuck

(101 posts)
22. Flawed weather predictions + underfunded and understaffed FEMA ...
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 04:12 PM
10 hrs ago

This will be interesting to see what happens next.

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