especially trespassing into a private home to commit a hate crime.

then they should be expelled on top of being criminally prosecuted.

Frat bros can usually afford to waste a good cut of pork to commit a hate crime against Jewish people when that meat could have been eaten or given to poor families. But NOOOOOO!

I don't actually know the boys' (emphasis on that word) motives, but I am thinking they were laughing as they drove off. But they didn't laugh because they had pulled off a daring act of undergraduate silliness, a "prank". They laughed at what they had done to Jews, at their attack on Jews, on Jewish culture, on Jewish belief and religion, at the slaughter of 6,000,000 Jews by the Nazis.

I hope the law deals with them fairly and justly. I expect the University will expel them. I also expect they've screwed up their own otherwise lily-white privileged futures.

Proud Beispiele für die MAGA-Herrenvolk!

Unlike something like spray-painting swastikas on a temple wall, charging "tossing pork at a wall" as a hate crime might be a bit of a stretch in a court of law. Not sure you'd get a conviction is all I mean

I like that these assholes are going to have to sweat it out for a while though, they definitely deserve that. And they sure as hell need to be EXPELLED, post-haste!

intended to ruin the holiday. The frat was attacked only because it was Jewish. Imagine how you would feel if someone broke into your house and threw a bag of meat at your dining room wall when you prepared to celebrate a meal.
You agree ( as would I) that painting swastikas on a synagogue is a hate crime. In some ways, this might be worse as it is directed against Jews for no reason other than being Jewish and destroys their sense of security in their home.

And more difficult to clean up.

But I'd think something they're not supposed to eat per their religion, only applicable to the religiously adherent compared to a symbol of enslavement & slaughter of millions of them based on ethnicity would seem to me to be on fairly different levels. But again my point was what charges would likely succeed in court. I guess it would depend on the applicable law and how it's written

I support the hate crime charge, throw the book at these jerks If they can make it stick, great! My suspicion is that they'll leverage it to get a guilty plea on burglary and vandalism w/o going to court though. If prosecutors could count on a jury of 12 observant Jews, it'd be a shoo-in, but they can't. I dunno, hoping we'll hear how it turns out later.

Thanks for the talk and info

I would be additionally interested to see if there was somebody, or something, behind (and encouraging?, incentivizing?) the perpetrators ... ?
The terms 'grooming' and 'radicalization' - cover some significant territory ...
One could hope, I suppose, that this was some kind of sick frat boy prank. Still pretty ugly stuff (and knowingly so?) - but that would be putting the best possible spin ...

And if it does not - then you would admit that symbolism, and symbolic action (?) (sometimes) meets that bar .. ?

Note: I think you have a right to your own threshold/bar. Just laying out a thought process.

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Jewish people who keep kosher don't eat or even touch pork. Throwing pork against the walls and floors of their home, during the high holy days, is an intentional act of religious hatred.

or some GOP think tank.

Candace Owens listeners
That woman may be the worst person among the anti-Semitic crowd

They'd likely be in jail for a verrrrrrryyyyyyyyyyy long time
I wouldn't miss them

Should we throw coffee at people who don't drink coffee?

Hope they get kicked out.

And yes, as a matter of fact I do have relatives who are Syracuse graduates.

There's a lot of bad people in our country right now, doing bad things.

Are they MAGA? Pro-Palestinian activists? Pranksters? We need a motive.

Maybe this is a good opportunity to pause and look at what underlies the hate crimes committed against Jewish people.

MAGA? They hate Jewish people.

Pranksters? Why this particular target and use of calculated symbolism? They hate Jewish people.

Pro-Palestinian "activists"? How does committing a religious hate crime against a Jewish fraternity in upstate New York help the people in Gaza? They hate Jewish people.

It's always the same motive, no matter how you dress it up.

While there is a friendly rivalry between the three Jewish fraternities (ZBT, Alpha Epsilon Pi, and mine), we all come together when Jews are targeted.

But we've been targeted many times since Oct 4th. This is just another attack on Jews that will be whitewashed by pretty much everyone.

They should be charged with everything possible to recieve the maximum possible penalty. Let's see how funny they think that is. It is a form of terrorism in the classic sense of the word. Comparable to setting a cross on fire in a yard by the KKK. It's done to strike fear. The fear must be felt by the attackers therefore the greatest possible penalties must be ordered both as a punishment as well as a deterrence to all future attacks.

All this hate and lack of civility is directly tied to over 50 years of hate and lies from the Rat Republicans,

I’m very sorry for the Jewish Students during Rosh Hashanah.

May Loving-Kindness surround all humanity.

Throw them behind bars. They should be charged for more than just hate. They should be severely (yrs behind bars) punished for being a menace to CIVILIZATION itself. Throw the book at them!~!!!!

Syracuse University, no less!~ Throw them out of all NCAA sports!

I'm pissed, if you can't tell. Sorry.

I hope someone leaks them ASAP. Shame them. And then let the judicial consequences follow.