n/t

There undoubtedly are a lot of subscribers and patrons out there who feel this is "too little, too late". After this serious debacle, how can anyone trust that company again?

They want to think everything will go back to normal.
But we know who they are now.

Leave no bootlicker untouched. To the scaffold!!!

If that merger goes through, they will own 80% of the local station market in the U.S. Free speech will be gone. They are the assholes that threatened to silence Kimmel. They need to be broken up. Even owning 40% which they now do is too much power for people completely irresponsible to our democracy. This is why station ownership had limits for decades until the 90's.

Anyway, the only channel I stream is PBS.

That was never going to change.

I am not convinced that forever grudges strengthen our position. I think we have to welcome those who have “seen the light” whether a MAGA voter who learns to regret the vote or a company that saw its market cap fall precipitously. If there are no benefits to “seeing the light,” we eliminate the incentive to do so. It’s not really about grace or forgiveness per se—though the religious among us may call it that—it is about expanding the coalition of those who are willing to oppose authoritarianism, even if it took a while for them to get there.

Hard to get revenue from shows that aren't written and nonexistent guests. They know AI writing sucks, at least for now (and for LLMs, probably forever).

I agree with John Oliver - the only 4 words Disney should have said to Carr was: "Fuck You Make Me"!! Hope this re-instatement holds and humiliates the shit out of Trump and Carr. Good for Jimmy and keep that razor edge on Trump mockery.

and everything to do with money. Massive boycotts do work and this is a perfect example of it.

The people spoke and they spoke with their dollars. That's the way to treat these corporations.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220665816#post1

I LIKE IT!!

tomorrow night 11:35 pm

This should be one hell of a monolog

"Did anything happen while I was away?"

I hope Jimmy excoriates Dotard and tears new assholes in the Disney execs.

They DESERVE IT.

Trump must be mad

Oh, and....

Fuck Donald trump!

EPSTEIN

The network pulled the show after the Federal Communications Commission chair threatened to revoke ABC affiliate licenses after the host's comments about Charlie Kirk's death.

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/media/jimmy-kimmel-abc-return-tuesday-rcna232335

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/media/jimmy-kimmel-abc-return-tuesday-rcna232335

It was a comment on the right wing milking the killing that got him, in my opinion

It was fine as long as we accepted all responsibility for all the negatives.

Jimmy pushed back and so did we!

Hey Disney! When someone shows you who they are, you know they don't care about you, just your money.

RIP Disney!

I imagine he will be apoplectic over it.

Something like that

because the ratings will be YUGE. I hope his writers have a free rein because Jimmy has the opportunity deliver some really memorable lines.

Trump is going to be upset.

I usually do not watch late night TV; this Tuesday will be an exception.

This old lady will stay up just for this.

I guess we'll keep it...for now.

It's the principle behind this whole issue. We won't allow GOP to take away our freedom of speech. We still have the power to fight and we will hit them where they live, their pocketbooks!

Make them suffer the losses a bit longer. They didn’t make this decision because they were wrong, they did it because they lost money.

So we should probably resume subscriptions to reinforce that they've made the right choice and we have more sway than the cult.

DISNEY: "OK, we are putting Jimmy Kimmel back on the air. You can resubscribe now."

ME: "I unsubscribed because you immorally bowed to fascism. I'm not going to resubscribe because you immorally bowed to finances."

— Mrs. Betty Bowers (@mrsbettybowers.bsky.social) 2025-09-22T21:13:58.990Z

That's it in a nutshell.

Jimmy,
Don't apologize.
Don't slightly bend the knee to ABC or Disney.
Don't change.
You do you.


Almost contacted Xfinity to cancel my Disney+ and Hulu subscription. Plus, I was going to boycott Disney's upcoming film releases; Tron: Ares, Predator: Badlands, Zootopia 2, and Avatar: Fire and Ash.

His FCC Chair will now try illegal strategies to get at Disney.

That I know will not happen but I would love it if Kimmel noted that Sinclair wanted him to appologize so he gives a short appology then says "Sinclair also wanted to extort a donation from me to Turning Point so here is $1 which I am donating to them and is worth exactly the same as my apology"

I actually don't buy Disney products with the exception of Christmas gifts for my niece and her husband.

I have been unaware of what films they control or produce, but will check on this going forward and skip the films, no matter how interesting they might be.

The fact is that they valued undeserved adulation for an idiot racist freak who preached that killing children was OK, that women were inferior beings and so on.

The shtick their corporation used to have was that they embraced American values. Clearly that was a lie.

Like Macbeth, they cannot undo what they've done.

What comments? Please explain.

but tomorrow night I will put it on and watch the beginning monologue.

Diarrhea Donny will now just double down on his efforts to quash any opposition -- unless this ignites "Le Revolution," I am still deeply troubled at the direction this country is headed towards....

https://apnews.com/article/jimmy-kimmel-suspension-supporters-94b79634a19b2c4ce70a2b4195ef1175

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Backlash to Kimmel’s comments about Kirk was swift. Nexstar and Sinclair, two of ABC’s largest affiliate owners, said they would be pulling “Jimmy Kimmel Live!” from their stations. Others, including several fellow comedians, came to his defense.

There was no immediate comment from Nexstar and Sinclair in response to messages from The Associated Press.

President Donald Trump, one of Kimmel’s frequent targets, posted on social media that Kimmel’s suspension was “great news for America.” He also called for other late night hosts to be fired.

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So now the question is, how muzzled will Kimmel be?

he seems to have gotten more support than Colbert.

I mean, I like him, but didn't know he was that popular.....

I'm glad he'll be back.

I'm happy for him, Guillermo, the rest of his staff, and us!

I'm thinking maybe our outcries helped

donation.

Burn down the house of the mouse. Keep canceling Disney+, stay away from going to Disneyland or Disney-anything. Boycott everything Disney until some private equity buys it for a song and then milks that last remaining remnants before discarding the dessicated remains of a spineless jellyfish.

My money is much better spent on PBS.

DONT GIVE AN INCH TO THEM BECAUSE IF YOU DO IT WILL BE FINISHED - STAND UP TO THEM PLEASE

Bravo Zulu to all who forced their hand.

Fucker.

Got a raise or more perks ? Should have. I wonder too if he had to sign off on not suing them?

Link to tweet

At least until "Ahsoka" S2 happens. And, most important right now - my husband can go see "TRON: Ares" with a semi-clear conscience.

$hitler made a bunch of false accusations and very ugly threats before the facts in the case were even known. A reporter tossed him a softball question about he was holding up after losing his "friend", and Pisswig showed how caring and sensitive he is ('nt), by saying that he was " doing pretty good, really ", and then deflecting to the construction of his (Epstein) ball room .
I'm guessing that a staffer clued him in to what a bad look that was for him. So, instead of any kind of measured statement about CK's death, he decided to go on the attack and blame Jimmy Kimmel for making him look like the a$$hat that he is.

Too little too late for me.

So we'll see if the network will allow renewal then or just use that as another excuse.

Good. Fuck Him!!

Boycotts work

Link to tweet

... this feels like a small victory in the battle.
In the streets people, win or not!

The loons are really only about 25% to maybe 30% of the population. But they wield a BIG microphone by owning almost all the "mainstream" media.

raised to be good humans seem invisible to me. But maybe that is because I'm in a state where those numbers are probably flipped. And maybe because I'm In a less populated area of the country. It's felt pretty hopeless lately.
I really don't think this will end until at least 50% of the good human beings, raised to perpetuate a civilized society, get in the streets and protest!

The "70%" are busy trying to live their lives and aren't obsessing over "politics".

They have heard years and years of "hyperbolic" statements before elections and have chosen to tune it out.

But this time it is no longer "hyperbole" but has actually manifested into "real actions" with negative consequences that are starting to directly impact them, and interfere with their routines. So they are slowly waking up and and exclaiming - "Hey, wait a minute!"

Now that we have established that I am worth 4 billions to you , what about we renegotiate my contract? Oh and don't even think about censoring me.

We shall see.

https://www.businessinsider.com/sinclair-wont-air-jimmy-kimmel-on-abc-affiliate-stations-2025-9?op=1

stations not airing the show. So I am hoping that means Kimmel didn't give into their demands.

to be forgiven. Fire the CEO.

He might just do that, even if it gets him fired mid-shift.

Because he didn't want ABC to suffer financially since they are working with his Administration. (Extortion)

to censor free speech. This will make it much harder for the Magas to consolidate their authoritarian regime. It also shows Trump is not as powerful as he thinks he is and can be beaten.

Since this came as a result of pressure from the right as well as the left, it suggests that free speech and freedom of expression are part of the DNA of the overwhelming majority of americans. That is, we've had free speech for so long, that it has become part of this nation's culture and therefore it may not be possible to eliminate in the future.

I am pleasantly surprised. I really did not think there would be enough blowback for this to happen.

they say, "the host made comments linking the alleged killer of conservative activist Charlie Kirk to President Donald Trump's MAGA movement"

No, he didn't.

But I don't know if you posted that to agree and reinforce my point, or if you thought I had missed something...?

as being quick to "characterize" the shooter as being someone other than themselves.

There is a difference in context which is what apparently triggered the network.

I suppose it can be up for debate on what he personally thinks versus his observations of how the RW reacted, the latter of which was part of the monologue.

THAT is what I am trying to note, but however one interprets it, he said what he said.

Here again are the words:

What Kimmel is saying there... looking at his actual words:

He said the MAGA gang was trying to characterize the killer as ANYTHING other than one of them. What does this refer to? It means that MAGA folk were saying things like "the killer was a leftist!" or "the killer was conservative, but not MAGA, but rather from an anti-MAGA right-wing group!" or "the killer was a gay activist," whatever -- All kinds of stuff was being thrown around, MAGA people just wanted to be able to pin it on ANYTHING that would not be MAGA. As I see it, this is the entirety of what the first part of the quoted statement ( “desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them" ) says. Agreed?

Specifically, NOWHERE there did Kimmel suggest the killer was MAGA, nor did he suggest that the killer was not MAGA. He said nothing at all about whether or not the killer was MAGA. Rather, he was saying that, even though NOBODY KNEW whether the killer was MAGA or not, the MAGA people were putting out any theory they could come up with that would point the finger away from the killer being one of them. I would say that this is a reasonable perspective, and indeed a true statement, and most importantly here, takes no position whatsoever on whether the killer actually was or was not MAGA.

Let's go on to the rest of the quote... the MAGA gang was "doing everything they can to score political points from it." Again, a reasonable perspective, and I'd say a true statement, and again, makes no assertion whatsoever about whether the killer was or was not MAGA.

So from start to finish, in that quote, he's talking about what MAGA people were saying about the killer and the killing, what MAGA people were trying to get people to believe (ahead of any known facts), and how they were trying to reap political benefit from it. All true. And all without EVER asserting that the killer was MAGA. The whole point is that nobody knew. Even today we don't know.

It's not great that he was suspended for what might be seen by some as a "politically incorrect" statement, but it's worse that he was suspended for saying something he did not say; and even worse that the media reporting on it rarely made clear that he never actually said what people were accusing him of saying. All these days later, after endless discussion on the topic, a mainstream outlet like CNBC still gets the basic facts wrong, and misses one of the most important elements of the story.

So specifically getting back to the CNBC story, again, nothing in that Kimmel quote linked the alleged killer to the MAGA movement. as CNBC claimed. The Kimmel quote did refer to MAGA folks trying to distance themselves from there being any linkage, but Kimmel did not make any such linkage, he only talked about MAGA folk trying to prevent people from thinking there could possibly be one, when, again, no one knew, either way. And how they were trying to make political hay out of it. And again, all true.

except I am not associating the "made comments" part as them claiming that this was his personal view.

An example phrase that would do that might be to say that Kimmel "claimed that the killer was one of them" versus his actual roundabout observation of how the RW were going through a lot of effort to blame the left instead of blaming someone on the right.

"the host made comments linking the alleged killer of conservative activist Charlie Kirk to President Donald Trump’s MAGA movement."

He simply never made any comment linking the killer to MAGA. (Whether you call any such comment a personal view or not doesn't matter.)

He did make comments about MAGA people trying to deny any possibility that the killer might be MAGA (i.e. pointing the finger in every other possible direction), despite the fact that nobody knew, either way. That is in no way the same thing as linking the killer to MAGA.

I mean, that would make me sick if he apologize for some words that were accurate and truthful in fact, it would be really nice if he hammered Trump on his comeback

At minimum take some time to explain what the first amendment means to the crowd

(And this is where I truly hate how legacy network television is set up. )

The Sinclair Affiliate Network stations are Pre-empting his show anyway. Not sure about Nexstar.

So, there are still millions who are going to be blocked from seeing his show.

Absolutely despise the whole affiliate framework. It smacks of control. ABC (or any of the other 3) have a great show, but some conservative tightass in xyz market in outpost, MO decides they won’t air the show. So, iron curtain crap.

The largest population centers have affiliate stations that are usually owned by the network itself.

DC and Seattle are also in black out. And even the capital of New York- Albany! (Nexstar).

You are right, it’s many rural markets. But this is not good, and no excuse. When these rural areas are left in the dark, it only diminishes the access to mainstream information. It perpetuates their being left out of progress and views other than typical conservative silo misinformation and all that follows. It is no different than rural areas which lack adequate internet access.

Affiliates shouldn’t be allowed to preempt without a damn good reason.

Yes, Iron Curtain time.

have always been "left in the dark" save for AM radio, that many liberals (including on DU) pooh-poohed and felt was useless. Meanwhile, the RW loons bought bundles of those AM stations and filled them, 24/7, with syndicated nonsense over the decades, but got their "brainwashing message" in by doing that.

..in Seattle there is one Sinclair station (ONE TOO MANY!) so #SinclairOutOfSeattle is my tag line on everything I post. EFF THEM and still eff disney. Im NOT resubbing and I sure as hell am not buying back my 5K of stock I sold.

EffSinclairEffDisneyEffTrump

I would think Krasnov and Carr would have to approve Jimmy coming back on air. Or is everyone back tracking because enough Republicans are calling it inappropriate and dangerous to silence Jimmy.

RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES NOW

#EpsteinFiles