Trump announces he's designating antifa as a "major terrorist organization"
Source: CBS news
Updated on: September 17, 2025 / 9:55 PM EDT / CBS News
President Trump announced Wednesday that he will designate antifa as a terrorist organization, and is recommending investigations into people who allegedly fund it.
It's unclear when the designation will take place, or what legal implications it will have. Antifa short for anti-fascist is a loose affiliation of mostly left-leaning activists, and generally is not considered to be a highly organized group.
"I am pleased to inform our many U.S.A. Patriots that I am designating ANTIFA, A SICK, DANGEROUS, RADICAL LEFT DISASTER, AS A MAJOR TERRORIST ORGANIZATION," the president wrote in a Truth Social post. "I will also be strongly recommending that those funding ANTIFA be thoroughly investigated in accordance with the highest legal standards and practices. Thank you for your attention to this matter!"
CBS News has reached out to the White House for further details.
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Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-antifa-major-terrorist-organization/
Trump in on a roll ---he has gone after late night comedians and now antifa.
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msongs
(72,516 posts)WhiteTara
(31,071 posts)The annual Antifa picnic.
Silent Type
(11,261 posts)LeftInTX
(34,006 posts)I don't know what he's babbling about.
He can't create a domestic terrorist group. It's illegal.
lastlib
(26,743 posts)If I'm going to be a terrorist, I might as well be one of the best.....
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(129,081 posts)RazorbackExpat
(622 posts)signed by whoever Trump has appointed as the Director du Jour
kimbutgar
(26,136 posts)Just made up fox and orange turd MAGAloon propaganda about a bogey man that doesnt exist ! They use antifa to suit their right wing narrative !
BidenRocks
(2,270 posts)Guadalcanal Army infantry.
Fighting fascists!
tonekat
(2,365 posts)Hey, he thinks windmills are the enemy too!
IronLionZion
(49,971 posts)Dude will designate anyone he doesn't like as a terrorist. But of course the mental illness exception will be used for any of his own supporters who use violence and intimidation against civilians to pursue a political agenda.
We've seen a complete lack of political agenda in the Charlie Kirk murder for example. No terrorism there for the far right groypers. No terrorism for the Minnesota murders of elected officials (no political agenda of course).
But anyone who posts anything on DU will be declared Antifa. Anyone who can string coherent thoughts together into sentences will be declared woke antifa.
lastlib
(26,743 posts)
Right in the middle of a MAJOR strategy session! At a MAJOR base of operations! And with their whole arsenal of weapons, and all their personnel! Terrorists and their supreme leader!
dweller
(27,202 posts)

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Keepthesoulalive
(1,844 posts)Epstein
SomedayKindaLove
(1,149 posts)For breaking and entering.
mahina
(20,068 posts)This has the Easter Bunny all over it.
IronLionZion
(49,971 posts)what is she doing with all those human teeth?
FiveFifteen
(54 posts)Demented aspiring fascist yells at clouds
FakeNoose
(38,767 posts)First of all the word "antifa" stands for anti-fascist. I'd like to hear Chump explain why it's wrong to be against fascism.
I mean ... haven't we fought major wars to combat against fascism? Fascism is anti-American as well as anti-democratic.
So anything that is against fascism - like antifa - is good.
Or it was good, until the Repukes came along and used their pretzel logic to turn it into a bad word.
Chump can't explain what antifa is, or who in the US belongs to something called "antifa," or even where this group is hiding out.
This is all so crazy, and Chump is trying to find a reason to declare martial law ... over NOTHING!
angrychair
(11,174 posts)He doesn't find out about the super secret moonbase.
RedWhiteBlueIsRacist
(1,165 posts)This is a terrified Trump>
johnnyplankton
(568 posts)AntiFascist
(13,646 posts)Wiz Imp
(7,519 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(170,297 posts)
moonshinegnomie
(3,667 posts)PSA: A "Major Terrorist Organization" (MTO) is not a thing. The Immigration and Nationality Act *delegates* power to the State Department to designate *FOREIGN* terrorist organizations (FTOs) based on certain criteria. It doesn't apply to domestic orgs.
— Asha Rangappa (@asharangappa.bsky.social) 2025-09-18T03:56:13.196Z
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER!
LeftInTX
(34,006 posts)Last edited Thu Sep 18, 2025, 03:48 AM - Edit history (1)
The term Antifa is used to define a broad group of people whose political beliefs lean toward the left often the far left but do not conform with the Democratic Party platform, CNN previously reported. The group doesnt have an official leader or headquarters, although groups in certain states hold regular meetings.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/17/politics/antifa-terrorist-designation-trump
Apparently, we can't officially designate domestic terrorist groups.
I'm going to bed. Thought they had a surveillance list, but it's hate groups and street gangs on FBI watch list.
Wiz Imp
(7,519 posts)who fought and defeated fascism. So Trump is effectively branding the WW II US military as terrorists....
LeftInTX
(34,006 posts)They're a real thing, but I think they are mostly inactive right now. I guess they've moved on to other stuff or something.
Individuals involved in the antifa movement tend to hold anti-authoritarian,[11] anti-capitalist,[63][64] anti-fascist,[52] and anti-state views,[9] subscribing to a varied range of left-wing ideologies.[65] A majority of adherents are anarchists, communists, and other socialists who describe themselves as revolutionaries,[8] although some social democrats and others on the American Left,[9] among them environmentalists, LGBT and indigenous rights advocates,[5] also adhere to the antifa movement.[8] According to professor of journalism and political science at the Craig Newmark Graduate School of Journalism at the City University of New York, Peter Beinart, "antifa is heavily composed of anarchists" and "its activists place little faith in the state, which they consider complicit in fascism and racism."[9] Antifa activists' ideologies, as well as their involvement in violent actions against far-right opponents and the police has led some scholars and news media to characterize the movement as far-left[2][66][67][68][69][70] and militant.[52][71][72]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa_(United_States)
They certainly aren't a terror group. At this point they're probably more of nuisance than anything.
Wiz Imp
(7,519 posts)I said the US military was the largest anti-fascist organization ever because they fought and defeated the fascists in WW II. I didn't say anything about so called "antifa".
But even Wikipedia (which you liked to) says antifa is not an organization. It characterized it as a "movement". Antifa (/ænˈtiːfə, ˈæntifə/) is a left-wing anti-fascist and anti-racist political movement in the United States. It consists of a highly decentralized array of autonomous groups that use nonviolent direct action, or violence to achieve their aims. A movement is not an organization.
I don't think anyone was claiming there isn't such a thing as antifa, just that it isn't a group or organization. It's more like a viewpoint. You can't legitimately call antifa a terror group because there is no such defined group.
ImNotGod
(1,146 posts)fascist regime in US history.
LeftInTX
(34,006 posts)I think they must have gained a few pounds....
Or maybe they moved onto the Palestine protest groups. (But the Palestine protest groups don't seem like antifa to me)
It bugs me when people mock antifa like it doesn't exist. Antifa is very anti-military, so please don't align them with Eisenhower, your father or grandfather who fought in WWII. They hate the military.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa_(United_States)
Antifa (/ænˈtiːfə, ˈæntifə/) is a left-wing anti-fascist and anti-racist political movement in the United States. It consists of a highly decentralized array of autonomous groups that use nonviolent direct action, or violence to achieve their aims.[1][2] Antifa political activism includes non-violent methods such as poster and flyer campaigns, mutual aid, speeches, protest marches, and community organizing.[3][4][5] Some who identify as antifa also use tactics involving digital activism, doxing, harassment, physical violence, and property damage. Supporters of the movement aim to combat far-right extremists, including neo-Nazis and white supremacists.[6]
Individuals involved in the movement subscribe to a range of left-wing ideologies, and tend to hold anti-authoritarian, anti-capitalist, and anti-state views. A majority of individuals involved are anarchists, communists, and socialists,[7] although some social democrats also participate in the antifa movement.[5][8][9] The name antifa and the logo with two flags representing anarchism and communism are derived from the German antifa movement.[10] Dartmouth College historian Mark Bray, author of Antifa: The Anti-Fascist Handbook, credits Anti-Racist Action (ARA) as the precursor of modern antifa groups in the United States.[11][12]
The American antifa movement grew after Donald Trump was elected president of the United States in 2016. Antifa activists' actions have since received support and criticism from various organizations and pundits. Some on the political left and some civil rights organizations criticize antifa's willingness to adopt violent tactics, which they describe as counterproductive and dangerous, arguing that these tactics embolden the political right and their allies.[13] Both Democratic and Republican politicians have condemned violence from antifa.[14][15][16][17] Many right-wing politicians and groups have characterized antifa as a domestic terrorist organization or use antifa as a catch-all term[18] for any left-leaning or liberal protest actions.[19] According to some scholars, antifa is a legitimate response to the rise of the far-right.[20][21] Scholars tend to reject an equivalence between antifa and right-wing extremism.[2][22][23][24] Research suggests that most antifa action is nonviolent.[25][26][27]
There have been numerous efforts to discredit antifa by various right-wing groups and individuals.[28][29] Some have been done via hoaxes on social media, many of them false flag operations originating from alt-right and 4chan users posing as antifa backers on Twitter;[30][31][32] some hoaxes have been picked up and portrayed as fact by right-leaning media and politicians.[30][33][34][35] There were repeated calls by Donald Trump and William Barr to designate antifa as a terrorist organization.[36] Academics, legal experts, and others have argued such an action would exceed the authority of the presidency and violate the First Amendment.[37][38][39] Several analyses, reports, and studies have concluded that antifa is not a major domestic terrorism risk.[40][41][42] On September 17, 2025, Trump announced plans to designate antifa as a "major terrorist organization".[43][44] The announcement came a week after the killing of right-wing activist Charlie Kirk.[45]
muriel_volestrangler
(104,836 posts)That article ( better direct link - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa_%28United_States%29 - the '%' signs handle the parentheses) links to the ADL page on them, and the last thing that has is clashes between Proud Boys and Antifa in Oregon in June 2021.
The Wikipedia article notes the attack on an ICE detention facility in Alvarado, Texas on July 4th, 2025; but the specific Wikipedia article on that just has "anti-fascist (contested)", and a Texas NPR station has a detailed look at the people charged, and never mentions "Antifa" at all: https://www.keranews.org/news/2025-07-11/prairieland-detention-center-alvarado-u-s-immigration-and-customs-enforcement-shooting-alvarado-police-officer-questions . A local Fox station did say "John Brown Gun Clubs exist across the United States as anti-fascist groups that promote social justice", but Wikipedia redirects "John Brown Gun Clubs" to "Redneck Revolt", which says "they also do not consider themselves an antifa group" - and there's been precious little news about them too in the past few years.
I think "Antifa was a real thing" would be more accurate.
LeftInTX
(34,006 posts)I think they're still active in the Pacific NW. They're just not making news.
They've had a chapter in Portland since 2007 https://rosecityantifa.org/
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The attack on ICE in Texas was NOT Antifa.
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I keep thinking it's Zizians, or a group that is copying them, but there has not been any connection mentioned. The Zizians are sort of a cult.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zizians
AI does not think the attack was by the Zizians
I think you get the idea. The attack in Texas sounds like it's from a group that's "out there".
LeftInTX
(34,006 posts)supposedly behind Charlie Kirk's killing.
I stumbled on this because, I went down a rabbit hole looking for some background info on a local issue https://www.tpr.org/government-politics/2025-09-17/texas-rangers-uvalde-police-investigate-death-of-congressional-staffer-to-rep-tony-gonzales and the rumor happened to be coming from a far right person. Then, popped up recent tweets about Elm Fork and Armed Queers on his feed. (That person is a supporter of AKGuy who is running against Gonzales. AKGuy and Gonzales are both Republicans)
The far right refers to many groups that are antifascist as "antifa", which isn't accurate. Of course, Trump is also far right, so any group that is "antifascist" is "antifa" to him.
However, the leader of Armed Queers SLC is affiliated with the Party of Socialism and Liberation, which is totalitarian, which is pretty much the opposite of antifa.
So, it appears these are pop-up type protest groups, which are "anti-fascist". Fringe groups will often have seedy people hanging around, such as Benjamin Song and his crew.
There is no evidence that Armed Queers SLC had anything to do with Charlie Kirk's murder. They're just a group that Trump doesn't like.
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/john-brown-gun-club-armed-anti-fascist-1234733200/
https://efjbgc.noblogs.org/
https://www.fox4news.com/news/benjamin-song-suspect-immigration-center-attack-previously-sued-over-drag-show-counter-protest
Here is a quote from a far right tweet:
To see the actual tweet go to: Texas Coalition for Kids and you will see the pinned tweet. I won't link from the site.
Also Sen Mike Lee recently tweeted a poster from Armed Queers of SLC and called it horrifying.

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If the FBI has concerns about the Elm Fork John Brown Gun Club and Armed Queers of SLC, they can surveil them. They can surveil just about anyone. However, they can't be designated as terrorist groups! Congress would have to create a law that allows domestic groups to be designated as terrorist groups. There is no such federal law. (States have domestic terrorism laws however) Trump tried to designate antifa as terrorist group in 2020. It didn't happen.
usonian
(20,874 posts)Asking for a friend.
Botany
(75,372 posts)

muriel_volestrangler
(104,836 posts)These idiots are online, but don't seem to have grasped the concept of memes, and anyone jumping on a bandwagon to make a quick buck. Sure people sell T shirts with "Antifa" on them. They also sell T shirts with Pepe frogs on, dogs selling dogecoin, and anything else that has been the meme du jour over the years.
It's capitalism. And you can tell there's no central organization, because no one's getting sued for trademark infringement.
It seems a few years since there was even much news about anyone in the streets calling themselves "antifa". In fact, the last notable spike in interest was around Trump's attempted coup:
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&geo=US&q=%2Fg%2F11f00qm9h3&hl=en-GB
They were seen as people who might go to DC too and start to fight Trump's MAGA thugs. But people didn't (many had said "don't take the bait" - whether that's the reason, I don't know). So MAGA attacked the police and Congress, without anyone there being "Antifa" (sure, the buffoons tried to say "Antifa False Flag Argle Bargle Never My Fault" ). And since then, there's been very little "Antifa" branded activity (after all, we had 4 years of a democratic, Democratic federal government, so nothing for anyone anti-fascist to object to then; but protests against Trump just haven't been called "antifa" ).
"Antifa" may become Trump's Emmanuel Goldstein - the boogeyman to be wheeled out when he needs a distraction, or a vague term to be written on arrest warrants when they need excuses to arrest any opponent.
Javaman
(64,547 posts)that's the mission.
going full fascist.
twodogsbarking
(15,980 posts)tanyev
(47,898 posts)Antifa
1 Antifa Way
City of Antifa, Every Blue State
Miguelito Loveless
(5,222 posts)Along with KAOS, the Urak-hai, C.H.U.M.P., The Beagle Boys, and The Maquis.
bluestarone
(20,377 posts)TERRORISTS. That's what they continually do!!
oasis
(52,947 posts)
Aristus
(70,966 posts)
LudwigPastorius
(13,481 posts)
somsai
(169 posts)Some like Rose City Antifa might have have foreign connections.
Federal Law has no designation of domestic terrorist, declaring them so does little.
Ultimately orgs based on violence are not a great route to go. Voting more effective.
muriel_volestrangler
(104,836 posts)or convicted for. Trump would like it to be, but as you say, it can't. Plus last year was under a non-criminal federal regime. Who did the "busting"?
You claim "everyone" was convicted - how can an entire group be convicted of something?
somsai
(169 posts)Everyone within that cell pled guilty or was convicted. Did you google? Please google first then if you don't understand bits ask, I don't do research for people.
muriel_volestrangler
(104,836 posts)You don't need to "do research for people", you just have to explain your own remarkable, yet nebulous, claim that "they" were "all" "busted".
Even when I now add "threat" to the search, I still just get the same case, because the idiot judge said
https://lawandcrime.com/crime/white-supremacist-leader-who-claimed-he-was-fighting-antifa-gets-time-served/
So what are you on about?
LeftInTX
(34,006 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(170,297 posts)Five years after the president tried to designate antifa as a terrorist organization, hes giving it another try. The sequel will likely be worse.
Before anyone jokes about Trump categorizing a nonexistent organization as a âmajor terrorist organization,â remember:
— Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2025-09-18T16:08:00.977Z
If he says that antifa members are terrorists, and he says his team will decide who and what qualifies as âantifa,â this can get scary in a hurry. www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddo...
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/unsettling-consequence-trump-designating-antifa-major-terrorist-organi-rcna232143
Two days later, NBC News reported:
Trump said on social media that he would designate antifa as a terrorist organization and recommend investigating those deemed responsible for funding it. ... The post provided few details, including how hed make the designation or how he would target antifa which lacks centralized leadership and structure.
I am pleased to inform our many U.S.A. Patriots that I am designating ANTIFA, A SICK, DANGEROUS, RADICAL LEFT DISASTER, AS A MAJOR TERRORIST ORGANIZATION, Trump wrote by way of his social media platform. I will also be strongly recommending that those funding ANTIFA be thoroughly investigated in accordance with the highest legal standards and practices......
But before anyone makes jokes about Trump categorizing a nonexistent organization as a major terrorist organization, or shrugs this off as the latest presidential nonsense, theres another dimension to this thats worth worrying about: If the White House says that antifa members are terrorists, and the White House says it will decide on its own who and what qualifies as antifa affiliates, this can get very scary, very quickly.
DBoon
(24,317 posts)Wuddles440
(1,851 posts)designating anyone who opposes him as "antifa" and then have MAGA Bondi charge them as a "terrorist".
GreenWave
(11,694 posts)Here they are at Lake Melania with the Antifa subs...
UpInArms
(53,438 posts)what a dolt of course a fascist would have a problem with those who are antifascist
Captain Zero
(8,454 posts)Antiifa Headquarters.
LetMyPeopleVote
(170,297 posts)