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BumRushDaShow

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Wed Sep 10, 2025, 06:36 PM Sep 10

Gunman in Charlie Kirk killing still at large after FBI says first suspect released from custody

Last edited Wed Sep 10, 2025, 10:13 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: CNBC

Published Wed, Sep 10 2025 2:48 PM EDT Updated 40 Min Ago


A manhunt was underway late Wednesday for the killer of conservative political activist Charlie Kirk, who was assassinated earlier in the day by a gunman, while speaking to a crowd of several thousand people at Utah Valley University in Orem.

An initial suspect was released from custody after being interrogated by law enforcement officers, said FBI Director Kash Patel. “The subject in custody has been released after an interrogation by law enforcement. Our investigation continues and we will continue to release information in interest of transparency,” Patel wrote on X.

Before the initial suspect’s release, Patel had taken the unusual step of announcing on social media that the “subject” in Kirk’s killing had been taken into custody. Typically, updates to high-profile investigations are delivered by local authorities or regional FBI agents at press conferences — not by the director and not on social media.

“The subject for the horrific shooting today that took the life of Charlie Kirk is now in custody,” Patel had written. “Thank you to the local and state authorities in Utah for your partnership with @fbi. We will provide updates when able.” Patel did not identify the suspect.

Read more: https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/10/charlie-kirk-uvu-shooting-utah.html



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The subject in custody has been released after an interrogation by law enforcement. Our investigation continues and we will continue to release information in interest of transparency
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The subject for the horrific shooting today that took the life of Charlie Kirk is now in custody. Thank you to the local and state authorities in Utah for your partnership with @fbi.
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The subject for the horrific shooting today that took the life of Charlie Kirk is now in custody. Thank you to the local and state authorities in Utah for your partnership with @fbi.
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6:21 PM · Sep 10, 2025


Article updated.

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Initial suspect in Charlie Kirk killing released from custody after interrogation, FBI Director Patel says

Published Wed, Sep 10 2025 2:48 PM EDT Updated 3 Min Ago


An initial suspect in the killing of conservative political activist Charlie Kirk in Utah was released from custody Wednesday after being interrogated by law enforcement officers, FBI Director Kash Patel said.

"The subject in custody has been released after an interrogation by law enforcement. Our investigation continues and we will continue to release information in interest of transparency," Patel wrote on X.

Patel's announcement came hours after Kirk, 31, was assassinated by a gunman while speaking to a crowd of several thousand people at Utah Valley University in Orem.

Before the initial suspect's release, Patel had taken the unusual step of announcing on social media that the "subject" in Kirk's killing had been taken into custody. Typically, updates to high-profile investigations are delivered by local authorities or regional FBI agents at press conferences -- not by the director and not on social media.



Suspect in Charlie Kirk killing in custody, FBI director Patel says

Published Wed, Sep 10 2025 2:48 PM EDT Updated 7 Min Ago


A suspect in the killing of conservative political activist Charlie Kirk in Utah is in custody, FBI Director Kash Patel said on Wednesday evening.

Patel's announcement came hours after Kirk, 31, died after being shot while speaking to a crowd of several thousand people at Utah Valley University in Orem, where he had just been asked about mass shootings.

"The subject for the horrific shooting today that took the life of Charlie Kirk is now in custody," Patel wrote in a tweet. ″'Thank you to the local and state authorities in Utah for your partnership with @fbi. We will provide updates when able." Patel did not identify the suspect.

A gunman fired at Kirk from a campus building 200 yards away just after noon local time, hitting him once in the neck, the university said.


Original article -

Published Wed, Sep 10 2025 2:48 PM EDT Updated 4 Min Ago


The suspect in the killing of conservative political activist Charlie Kirk in Utah is in custody, FBI Director Kash Patel said on Wednesday evening.

Patel's announcement came hours after Kirk died after being shot while speaking to a large crowd at Utah Valley University in Orem.

"The subject for the horrific shooting today that took the life of Charlie Kirk is now in custody," Patel wrote in a tweet. ″'Thank you to the local and state authorities in Utah for your partnership with @fbi. We will provide updates when able."

The unknown gunman fired at the 31-year-old Kirk from a campus building 200 yards away just after noon local time, hitting him once in the neck, the university said.
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Gunman in Charlie Kirk killing still at large after FBI says first suspect released from custody (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Sep 10 OP
The usual suspects or not? BigmanPigman Sep 10 #1
I'm wondering that myself Vogon_Glory Sep 10 #4
FYI - This isn't funny, and, is actually pretty hateful, even if it wasn't intended that way. Oneironaut Sep 10 #31
Patel screwed up as usual. drray23 Sep 10 #2
On one of the Reddit threads, they've already doxxed him. OnlinePoker Sep 10 #6
Another Richard Jewell situation? Justice Brandeis Sep 10 #8
If it's the first man arrested TommyT139 Sep 10 #14
Wait. How can they doxx a suspect in custody? No name's been released. ancianita Sep 10 #18
It might be the second person Renew Deal Sep 10 #43
I was wondering if this was a different person BumRushDaShow Sep 10 #7
That was the older guy right? Bengus81 Sep 10 #34
With all that has been going on (and updating a billion OPs) BumRushDaShow Sep 10 #36
Absolutely...shot him from 600 feet away. No way it was the guy the police had down early on. Bengus81 Sep 10 #37
Do the local police know? markodochartaigh Sep 10 #3
The shooter is probably already dead if the person wasn't a DOJ or DOD employee. LiberalArkie Sep 10 #5
If it was a set up, which markodochartaigh Sep 10 #12
A transgendered person? LiberalArkie Sep 10 #27
I wish we really knew Dyedinthewoolliberal Sep 10 #29
They could get whoever they wanted. markodochartaigh Sep 10 #39
I really hope the shooter is not trans, out of fear of a crackdown or violence against trans people. Oneironaut Sep 10 #33
Governor Cox (probably more reliable than Patel): 'person of interest' in custody, no information for a 2nd person muriel_volestrangler Sep 10 #9
So, not DJT, looking for an excellent distraction from Epstein and excuse to strip gun rights from Democrats? AZJonnie Sep 10 #15
He didn't call him a suspect, he called him a subject? bucolic_frolic Sep 10 #10
I noticed that also. Strange wording. Katinfl Sep 10 #22
For a whole host of reasons, I will be shocked if the actual shooter is taken in alive AZJonnie Sep 10 #11
I just really hope the killer is not transgender Justice Brandeis Sep 10 #17
I think it's pretty likely the person has trained with a sniper rifle, possibly military AZJonnie Sep 10 #24
So I'm assuming durablend Sep 10 #13
...or the shooter planned more thoroughly than someone who was mentally ill or violently aggrieved. LudwigPastorius Sep 10 #45
KashYAP, as usual Jilly_in_VA Sep 10 #16
'When do we get to start using the guns?' questioner at TPUSA event asks Charlie Kirk. Hotler Sep 10 #19
That's a great example of Kirk pushing conspiratorial, anti-government, false propoganda about the country Renew Deal Sep 10 #44
Why the suspect is not identified. James48 Sep 10 #20
Simpler answer to your questions is that Patel is so clueless he is not in communication w FBI agent on the scene. . .nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 10 #23
never ascribe to malice what can be attributed to stupidity DBoon Sep 10 #28
Could it be someone(a maga) that is pissed that johnnyfins Sep 10 #26
The shooter probably thought Charlie wasn't loyal enough to MAGA, Q-anon or whatever crazy shit they've come up with.. Crowman2009 Sep 10 #42
If amazes me how that we can't leave our homes and run errands... C Moon Sep 10 #21
Gosh, you have figured out how it was done! They just "walked in" with the gun Bernardo de La Paz Sep 10 #25
You can see the shooter in this video Mosby Sep 10 #30
Patel is just plain old STUPID ashredux Sep 10 #32
Jeanine Pirro will straighten this out. Hassin Bin Sober Sep 10 #40
Please update your headline, like you did with your "Kirk shot" headline. He was RELEASED. SunSeeker Sep 10 #35
I believe he was a "person of interest". twodogsbarking Sep 10 #38
Their concentration on this individual gave the perpetrator more time to get away. hamsterjill Sep 10 #41
Sounds like a Butler Pa. all over again Historic NY Sep 10 #46
How much did Patel comment when AdamGG Sep 10 #47
Bolt action rifle used PCB66 Sep 11 #48

Vogon_Glory

(10,073 posts)
4. I'm wondering that myself
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 06:43 PM
Sep 10

Last edited Wed Sep 10, 2025, 08:47 PM - Edit history (2)

Did the cops round up any tall person with big hands and feet and dressed like a woman, regardless of biological gender?

EDIT: in these times we live in, I can well imagine the authorities targeting transgenders as likely suspects in Kirk’s assassination, regardless of actual guilt or innocence.

Oneironaut

(6,128 posts)
31. FYI - This isn't funny, and, is actually pretty hateful, even if it wasn't intended that way.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 08:17 PM
Sep 10

Trans people are not violent or prone to shootings. We are not "the usual suspects." We just want to be left alone and not referred to as slurs.

drray23

(8,434 posts)
2. Patel screwed up as usual.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 06:42 PM
Sep 10

As per a few minutes ago in a live conference the fbi agent in charge on the ground said the shooter is at large. They do have a person in custody that they arrested for obstruction but it is not the shooter.

OnlinePoker

(6,025 posts)
6. On one of the Reddit threads, they've already doxxed him.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 06:49 PM
Sep 10

His life is going to be hell going forward.

TommyT139

(1,948 posts)
14. If it's the first man arrested
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 06:58 PM
Sep 10

...he is being held for obstruction of police activity or something, and was named in the press conf.

BumRushDaShow

(160,828 posts)
7. I was wondering if this was a different person
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 06:50 PM
Sep 10

because the first one taken into custody WAS announced as not being the shooter.

BumRushDaShow

(160,828 posts)
36. With all that has been going on (and updating a billion OPs)
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 08:41 PM
Sep 10

I hadn't seen the pic of the original guy they ended up releasing.

Whoever did this was an expert.

Bengus81

(9,457 posts)
37. Absolutely...shot him from 600 feet away. No way it was the guy the police had down early on.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 08:46 PM
Sep 10

markodochartaigh

(4,175 posts)
3. Do the local police know?
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 06:43 PM
Sep 10

This is how screwed this country is: There are three possibilities.

A) Patel just really has no clue that the old guy first arrested has already been cleared.

B) There is someone in custody because the whole thing was a false flag and they have a patsy.

C) The FBI actually apprehended the suspect but haven't even informed local police.

All of these possibilities should be able to be dismissed instantly in a well-functioning country.

LiberalArkie

(18,986 posts)
5. The shooter is probably already dead if the person wasn't a DOJ or DOD employee.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 06:49 PM
Sep 10

But I feel they will find that the dead shooter is trans sexual as that was what he was bitching about

markodochartaigh

(4,175 posts)
12. If it was a set up, which
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 06:56 PM
Sep 10

I doubt, I think that the actual shooter would have been spirited away. I don't have any problem imagining a military sniper willing to shoot someone on their own side as part of a false flag operation, but I doubt that they would do it if they knew that they would be killed. Especially considering how much more effective it would be to have a left wing patsy. The patsy could be cornered in a mountain cabin and a shootout would remove any possibility of an awkward Oswald "I'm a patsy" moment.

LiberalArkie

(18,986 posts)
27. A transgendered person?
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:47 PM
Sep 10

Question from the audience: “Do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass shooters over the last 10 years?”
Charlie Kirk: “Too many.”

Dyedinthewoolliberal

(16,160 posts)
29. I wish we really knew
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:58 PM
Sep 10

but I suspect not many. Already people in my family who are conservative are saying things like 'there are too many shooting by trans people'

markodochartaigh

(4,175 posts)
39. They could get whoever they wanted.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 09:36 PM
Sep 10

Whatever demographic. I doubt that this what actually happened. Not because the reich-wing has any scruples at all, but because it doesn't seem necessary. Anything and/or everything can be used by them for whatever they want to do. Add to this their laziness and incompetence and it just seems unlikely that they would spin some extremely complicated plot to get a rationalization for what they are doing anyway.

Oneironaut

(6,128 posts)
33. I really hope the shooter is not trans, out of fear of a crackdown or violence against trans people.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 08:37 PM
Sep 10

Trans people are not violent or shooters. We just want to be left alone and exist like everyone else.

muriel_volestrangler

(104,844 posts)
9. Governor Cox (probably more reliable than Patel): 'person of interest' in custody, no information for a 2nd person
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 06:52 PM
Sep 10
Officials believe that there was only one “person involved” in the shooting death of Charlie Kirk on a Utah college campus earlier today, Utah Gov. Spencer Cox said.

“At this point, there is no information that would lead us to believe that there is a second person involved,” Cox said at a press conference Wednesday.

Still, investigators are “actively looking” for people who may have more information about the shooting, Cox said.

The governor said authorities have “a person of interest in custody that is being interviewed right now.”

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/charlie-kirk-shot-utah-09-10-25#cmfek34vp001e3b6okuqed4hh

AZJonnie

(1,654 posts)
15. So, not DJT, looking for an excellent distraction from Epstein and excuse to strip gun rights from Democrats?
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:05 PM
Sep 10

And not because DJT Jr. saw Kirk as a threat to his own political ambitions some day?

In other words, not the sort of 'false flag' that the likes of Alex Jones would be yammering about if a Democrat were POTUS?

Good to know, Governor!

bucolic_frolic

(52,518 posts)
10. He didn't call him a suspect, he called him a subject?
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 06:54 PM
Sep 10

His lawyers will ponder that characterization.

AZJonnie

(1,654 posts)
11. For a whole host of reasons, I will be shocked if the actual shooter is taken in alive
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 06:55 PM
Sep 10

In fact I expect some BS about how they cannot divulge their identity because of "national security". That's because Trump will get more mileage from the story by not telling anyone who it was. Focus on this, people, not Epstein!

Come to think of it, the whole thing is pretty convenient in a lot ways for him. Just sayin

AZJonnie

(1,654 posts)
24. I think it's pretty likely the person has trained with a sniper rifle, possibly military
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:24 PM
Sep 10

And I would imagine the number of trained snipers who are transgender is very, very small. But yeah, that WOULD be very, very bad. Same if they're an immigrant, esp. one not here legally.

If there can be said to be an optimal situation, in terms of the political fallout, the person is white, decorated military, and lost a loved one in a mass shooting who has animosity towards Kirk specifically over his callous talk about random gun violence.

However if that were the real situation, I very much doubt the public would ever be told thusly. Not by this DoJ/FBI, nor this M$M.

durablend

(8,527 posts)
13. So I'm assuming
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 06:58 PM
Sep 10

a) They haven't dug in far enough to figure out which side he's on
OR
b) they know which side he's on and need to get on the same page with the excuse/coverup

LudwigPastorius

(13,489 posts)
45. ...or the shooter planned more thoroughly than someone who was mentally ill or violently aggrieved.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 11:36 PM
Sep 10

The fact that there hasn't been a capture makes me think this person disabled/circumvented security cameras, planned an escape, picked up his brass, and left no other physical evidence.

Jilly_in_VA

(13,113 posts)
16. KashYAP, as usual
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:07 PM
Sep 10

is clueless. He'd better leave it to state and local officials to sort things out> He's already made a hash of the FBI.

Hotler

(13,446 posts)
19. 'When do we get to start using the guns?' questioner at TPUSA event asks Charlie Kirk.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:13 PM
Sep 10

From one of Kirk's rally's about three years ago. His supports wanting to open fire on Dems & Libs.

Renew Deal

(84,507 posts)
44. That's a great example of Kirk pushing conspiratorial, anti-government, false propoganda about the country
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 10:35 PM
Sep 10

James48

(4,962 posts)
20. Why the suspect is not identified.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:16 PM
Sep 10

My money is on it being a Right-winger with some bizarre motive. Maybe a personal issue- or jilted husband of a lover. Something really weird and unexpected like that.

If it was a lefty, Patel would have said so.

I think Patel is hiding the shooter’s identity because didn’t suit their cause.

Bernardo de La Paz

(58,929 posts)
23. Simpler answer to your questions is that Patel is so clueless he is not in communication w FBI agent on the scene. . .nt
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:24 PM
Sep 10

johnnyfins

(2,966 posts)
26. Could it be someone(a maga) that is pissed that
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:29 PM
Sep 10

Kirk decided to "move on" from the Epstein issue?

Crowman2009

(3,271 posts)
42. The shooter probably thought Charlie wasn't loyal enough to MAGA, Q-anon or whatever crazy shit they've come up with..
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 10:20 PM
Sep 10

...nowadays. Not to mention that Utah is a deep red open carry w/o a permit state.

C Moon

(13,212 posts)
21. If amazes me how that we can't leave our homes and run errands...
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:16 PM
Sep 10

without being on several cameras, but at a university someone can walk in w a high powered scoped rifle without being noticed.

Bernardo de La Paz

(58,929 posts)
25. Gosh, you have figured out how it was done! They just "walked in" with the gun
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:26 PM
Sep 10

Nobody ever walked onto a campus with a guitar case, violin case, ski bag, hockey equipment bag, construction equipment, a box of tools, a case of lab equipment, ....

Nobody ever moved their belongings into a dorm on a campus in early September.

SunSeeker

(56,786 posts)
35. Please update your headline, like you did with your "Kirk shot" headline. He was RELEASED.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 08:40 PM
Sep 10

Kash Patel's Keystone Cops have now wrongly arrested TWO individuals and doxxed them before releasing them after realizing they weren't involved.

hamsterjill

(16,602 posts)
41. Their concentration on this individual gave the perpetrator more time to get away.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 10:05 PM
Sep 10

Just sayin'...

AdamGG

(1,794 posts)
47. How much did Patel comment when
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 11:56 PM
Sep 10

The two Minnesota state reps were shot and one killed a few months ago? If they arrest a suspect for this shooting, will there be the same level of comments by federal officials and the president as there was for those two elected representatives and three other people? Those were actual elected officials and this is a pundit.

PCB66

(50 posts)
48. Bolt action rifle used
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 09:49 AM
Sep 11

The report this morning is that a bolt action rifle was used. I don't know how reliable Crowder is but if the report is accurate and it was another transgender shooting this is not good. The MAGAs will use it to foster more hate.

ATF and other law-enforcement located an older model imported Mauser .30-06 caliber bolt action rifle wrapped in a towel in a wooded area near the campus. The location of the firearm appears to match the suspects route of travel. The spent cartridge was still chambered in addition to three unspent rounds at the top fed magazine. All cartridges have engraved wording on them, expressing transgender and anti-fascist ideology.



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