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riversedge

(77,992 posts)
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 09:33 AM Sep 3

Massie: Trump 'may be covering for some rich and powerful people' in Epstein files

Source: the hill



by Tara Suter - 09/03/25 8:14 AM ET

Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) late Tuesday said President Trump “may be covering for some rich and powerful people,” as the lawmaker pushes for more transparency in the case of convicted sex offender and late financier Jeffrey Epstein.


“I think the best way to clear President Trump’s name is to release all the files,” Massie told MSNBC’s “All In” host Chris Hayes. “I actually don’t think he’s done anything criminal; I think he may be covering for some rich and powerful people that are friends of his. And in fact, some of those billionaires are running ads against me in Kentucky right now.”

“One of them is in Epstein’s black book. So, we’re, you know, we’re getting close to the center of power here,” he continued in the clip, highlighted by Mediaite. “And I think, you know, embarrassment is not a reason to conceal all of this stuff.”.............







Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5483247-massie-trump-epstein-files/

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Massie: Trump 'may be covering for some rich and powerful people' in Epstein files (Original Post) riversedge Sep 3 OP
May be covering? EYESORE 9001 Sep 3 #1
He is covering for no one but himself. gab13by13 Sep 3 #5
Okee dokee EYESORE 9001 Sep 3 #6
True leftieNanner Sep 3 #28
That is 100% correct. trump doesn't care if everyone else falls, he las no loyalty to anyone but himself, so NO Escurumbele Sep 3 #39
And you can bet, if there were as many high roller democrats in that slightlv Sep 3 #45
And How Rarely Do We Hear of a Liberal/Progressive Making (OK, for The Roux Comes First Sep 4 #52
Yep... With the price for a great escort being around $3,000 and the over night part adding in an additional $10,000, LiberalArkie Sep 3 #11
Like himself Mz Pip Sep 3 #2
... UpInArms Sep 3 #3
Another BS article from The Hill gab13by13 Sep 3 #4
Like himself? His wife? Autumn Sep 3 #7
His donors Bayard Sep 3 #16
He doesn't care about his donors. He's protecting himself. Autumn Sep 3 #18
That too Bayard Sep 3 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author Bayard Sep 3 #20
For someone claiming innocence or that the whole thing is all a "Democrat hoax" I'll just paraphrase... the nelm Sep 3 #47
Oh. The people he gives awards to. bucolic_frolic Sep 3 #8
If it was working class people going to markodochartaigh Sep 3 #9
If they are rich and powerful why would they care? Like, if they are, who can touch them? They will still have their Srkdqltr Sep 3 #10
Epstein's pedophelia ring was likely a vast international kompromat effort, probably backed by foreign sop Sep 3 #12
This is alluded to in Michael Wolff's books... slightlv Sep 3 #46
Let's not be fooled, Rep. Thomas Massie has his own angle on this story FakeNoose Sep 3 #13
Ruh roh. twodogsbarking Sep 3 #14
What a guy, taking a huge political hit to protect his friends William Seger Sep 3 #15
Yeah, himself. choie Sep 3 #17
Massie, I'm betting he is trying to cover his own ass. republianmushroom Sep 3 #21
Massie wouldn't do this unless he thought it would benefit him in some way. patphil Sep 3 #22
I suspect Massie knows that trump's guilty as hell, 70sEraVet Sep 3 #23
"I actually don't think he's done anything criminal" Rob H. Sep 3 #24
Yeah, that caught my attention, too not fooled Sep 3 #25
What credibility? mwmisses4289 Sep 3 #29
"covering for some rich and powerful people that are friends of his" - Aiding and abetting isn't a crime?? Beartracks Sep 3 #26
Trump only protects or enriches himself. Irish_Dem Sep 3 #27
No kidding popsdenver Sep 3 #40
I think Putin already has the list. Irish_Dem Sep 3 #42
Maybe the terse meeting popsdenver Sep 3 #43
Yes quite possible. Irish_Dem Sep 3 #44
Hans? underpants Sep 3 #30
Duh Deep State Witch Sep 3 #31
Uh YEAH Faux pas Sep 3 #32
Like himself Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 3 #33
Don't forget popsdenver Sep 3 #41
d'oh BoRaGard Sep 3 #34
donors Evolve Dammit Sep 3 #35
Massie is a fucking idiot if he genuinely thinks Trump isn't in there and he's doing this just to protect his old Karasu Sep 3 #36
Unless he could get a great payoff from them? Yoyoyo77 Sep 3 #48
Maybe it's Maybelline Blue Owl Sep 3 #37
Since when did the Orange Rapist/Pedifile nwduke Sep 3 #38
If it's not because he's in them, then it's because he's needs to get something out of them $$$. ToxMarz Sep 3 #49
Release the Pedogate file already! Aussie105 Sep 4 #50
Now, Please Bow Your Heads, and Open Your Prayer Books to the Epstein Client List MrWowWow Sep 4 #51
Two things to check Snoopy 7 Sep 4 #53
Michael Wolff says Epstein show him polaroids of Trump with topless young girls on his lap. mackdaddy Sep 4 #54

leftieNanner

(16,049 posts)
28. True
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 02:06 PM
Sep 3

But I heard massive say the same thing on Chris Hayes last night.

The Goon is probably protecting others, but mostly himself.

Escurumbele

(3,912 posts)
39. That is 100% correct. trump doesn't care if everyone else falls, he las no loyalty to anyone but himself, so NO
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 05:01 PM
Sep 3

he is not covering for anyone but himself.

slightlv

(6,625 posts)
45. And you can bet, if there were as many high roller democrats in that
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 06:16 PM
Sep 3

info as the right tries to scream about, trump would have unleashed the files a long time ago. Nope. Don't believe it. The files contain HIS name on every page, each description of sexual abuse is exampled by him, and his list of movers and shakers in the repug world are overly represented. How many times do you hear about a dem arrested for pedophilia, vs a repug... or a right wing preacher?

The Roux Comes First

(1,861 posts)
52. And How Rarely Do We Hear of a Liberal/Progressive Making (OK, for
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 12:21 AM
Sep 4

Sex-abuse claims about their opponents?!

LiberalArkie

(18,986 posts)
11. Yep... With the price for a great escort being around $3,000 and the over night part adding in an additional $10,000,
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 10:00 AM
Sep 3

I wonder how much the island costs? Add in how much more the underage part cost the John? And at a protected resort?

I would figure that at Epstein's price would be cheaper with the Russians picking up the tab for a bit of it because of the cameras and all, but still I can't imagine a normal person, even a CEO would ever be invited there.

gab13by13

(29,883 posts)
4. Another BS article from The Hill
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 09:39 AM
Sep 3

The rag that John Solomon wrote article after article about the stolen 2020 election.

When in the world would Krasnov care about anyone but himself?

The notion that Krasnov doesn't want to release the Epstein files is because it would hurt powerful people is laughable and is a right wing talking point.

Krasnov doesn't want those files released because it would show the world the pedophile that he is.

Response to Autumn (Reply #18)

the nelm

(173 posts)
47. For someone claiming innocence or that the whole thing is all a "Democrat hoax" I'll just paraphrase...
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 06:36 PM
Sep 3

Shakespeare. "Methinks he dost protest too much". (And he apparently never learned the lesson from the Nixon years. The coverup can be worse than the crime. Unless, of course, it turns out that he is, in fact, in it up to his eyeballs.)

markodochartaigh

(4,175 posts)
9. If it was working class people going to
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 09:54 AM
Sep 3

Epstein's island the full list would have been available on day one.
Of course it is rich and powerful people.

Srkdqltr

(8,945 posts)
10. If they are rich and powerful why would they care? Like, if they are, who can touch them? They will still have their
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 09:57 AM
Sep 3

money. and power.

sop

(16,213 posts)
12. Epstein's pedophelia ring was likely a vast international kompromat effort, probably backed by foreign
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 10:04 AM
Sep 3

intelligence agencies, maybe even domestic ones. It's pretty clear Trump was somehow involved. Ripping the lid off and exposing all the sleazy details of Epstein's sex-with-underage-girls-blackmail operation will seriously damage a lot of people. That's a good thing.

slightlv

(6,625 posts)
46. This is alluded to in Michael Wolff's books...
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 06:18 PM
Sep 3

and it makes the most logical sense when all the players (and possible players) are considered.

FakeNoose

(38,773 posts)
13. Let's not be fooled, Rep. Thomas Massie has his own angle on this story
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 10:06 AM
Sep 3
"... And in fact, some of those billionaires are running ads against me in Kentucky right now.”


This strategy might come back and bite him on the butt. Or maybe not ... if Chump is too busy putting out fires to notice.

William Seger

(11,835 posts)
15. What a guy, taking a huge political hit to protect his friends
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 10:46 AM
Sep 3
Yeah, that's our favorite malignant narcissist, alright.

republianmushroom

(21,487 posts)
21. Massie, I'm betting he is trying to cover his own ass.
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 11:30 AM
Sep 3

He could care less about anybody else ass except for his.

Massie, how dumb are you ?

patphil

(8,303 posts)
22. Massie wouldn't do this unless he thought it would benefit him in some way.
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 12:18 PM
Sep 3

He's been in the House since January of 2013. Why this big push now?
I don't think he's worried about his seat in the House; he won by a huge margin in the last 2 elections. He sees Trump as weak on this issue, and isn't worried about a primary challenge.
My guess is he has political ambitions beyond the House.

70sEraVet

(4,932 posts)
23. I suspect Massie knows that trump's guilty as hell,
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 01:22 PM
Sep 3

But he's got to play for his voting base. His base wants the release of the Epstein files, but they are convinced that the files will not reveal any wrong-doing by the Tangerine Traitor.

Rob H.

(5,718 posts)
24. "I actually don't think he's done anything criminal"
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 01:43 PM
Sep 3

Based on Trump's thus far sterling reputation, or...?

not fooled

(6,479 posts)
25. Yeah, that caught my attention, too
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 01:59 PM
Sep 3

"I actually don't think he's done anything criminal"



Geez, how dumb does he think we are? His credibility just vanished.


Beartracks

(14,117 posts)
26. "covering for some rich and powerful people that are friends of his" - Aiding and abetting isn't a crime??
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 02:04 PM
Sep 3

I don't think covering up for pedophiles is part of the President's official business, so it's still wrong even when the President does it.

=================

Irish_Dem

(75,488 posts)
27. Trump only protects or enriches himself.
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 02:04 PM
Sep 3

If he is protecting others they have paid him well for it.

popsdenver

(544 posts)
40. No kidding
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 05:27 PM
Sep 3

Trump already has the entire client list and all of the evidence, and is planning on his largest grift ever........Black mailing all of Epstein's clients.........

Maybe that was the reason for the Alaska meeting........Putin was demanding half and wanted to tell Trump in person.......

Irish_Dem

(75,488 posts)
42. I think Putin already has the list.
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 05:44 PM
Sep 3

I think Putin was involved with Epstein, there is a Russian connection.

Putin is already involved in sex and drug trafficking.

popsdenver

(544 posts)
43. Maybe the terse meeting
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 05:49 PM
Sep 3

in Alaska, was Putin telling Trump to not horn in on HIS blackmailing the clients........( Actually, Trump called it repeatedly, "the meeting in RUSSIA&quot

Irish_Dem

(75,488 posts)
44. Yes quite possible.
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 06:01 PM
Sep 3

Trump wanted a cut of the profits.
And more info on the blackmail.

Putin blackmail might be a reason why all the billionaires, congress, courts, judges, corporations, etc
have folded like lawn chairs giving Trump and Putin what they want. Were many of them
ensnared in Putin's trap?

Putin is an old KGB agent. He knows how to run this kind of operation.

Deep State Witch

(12,258 posts)
31. Duh
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 02:12 PM
Sep 3

That's the whole point of this. We know he was in thick with Epstein. The question is, who else was a client? Putin? Netanyahu? MBS?

popsdenver

(544 posts)
41. Don't forget
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 05:31 PM
Sep 3

that Rush Limbaugh was running similar jet junkets to Thailand, etc, with the CEO's, Politicians, and UBER rich.....

Karasu

(2,003 posts)
36. Massie is a fucking idiot if he genuinely thinks Trump isn't in there and he's doing this just to protect his old
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 03:46 PM
Sep 3

friends...all of whom he'd gladly throw under the bus without a second thought if it came down to them or him.

nwduke

(453 posts)
38. Since when did the Orange Rapist/Pedifile
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 04:53 PM
Sep 3

care about anyone but himself! He’s runner scared and looking more and more guilty as he continues to hide and obstruct and use his favorite word for getting busted “hoax”!

ToxMarz

(2,567 posts)
49. If it's not because he's in them, then it's because he's needs to get something out of them $$$.
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 08:14 PM
Sep 3

Either pay me to keep them under wraps, or pay me to release them. Everything is a grift.

Aussie105

(7,265 posts)
50. Release the Pedogate file already!
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 12:09 AM
Sep 4

The one the victims (aka eyewitnesses) are compiling.

Then we will know who Trump is protecting. Hs own ass or others?

Snoopy 7

(689 posts)
53. Two things to check
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 06:43 AM
Sep 4

There are two thing to check to verify trumps involvement with epstine crimes. One the rich should be dumping millions into trumps crypto (aka bribery). Second why isn't anyone looking at the epstine's actual handler, ISRAEL, they are the ones who used epstine as a spy. Therefore, they knew of the child abuse and condoned the abuse of children, don't forget prince charles's payoff of £12m to survivor Virginia Giuffre. The Israelis were blackmailing some very powerful leaders of this world.

mackdaddy

(1,873 posts)
54. Michael Wolff says Epstein show him polaroids of Trump with topless young girls on his lap.
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 07:51 AM
Sep 4

And I would not be surprised if there is not tapes of Trump with young girls as in the Katy Johnson complaints.

Trump is protecting himself.

He probably did not realize how much and how bad what Epstein has really was. And, this is the first real thing that would seriously chunk at his base. MTG is not following lockstep for god's sake.

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