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BumRushDaShow

(159,191 posts)
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 01:04 PM Monday

President Trump demands drugmakers 'justify their success' with COVID vaccines

Source: USA Today

Updated Sept. 1, 2025, 12:38 a.m. ET


WASHINGTON ‒ President Donald Trump called on drug companies to "justify their success" in combatting the COVID-19 virus, demanding the immediate release of data on the matter while the CDC is "being ripped apart over this question."

Trump's remarks in a Sept. 1 post on Truth Social follow his firing last week of CDC director Susan Monarez just one month into her tenure after a disagreement she had over vaccine policy with Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr., a longtime vaccine skeptic. Jim O'Neill, a top deputy of Kennedy, was later named acting CDC director.

"Many people think they are a miracle that saved Millions of lives. Others disagree!" Trump said of COVID drugs including vaccines made by Pfizer, Moderna and other drug companies. "With CDC being ripped apart over this question, I want the answer, and I want it NOW."

The Food and Drug Administration on Aug. 27 set tighter guidelines on who can receive the latest COVID vaccination shots, recommending the vaccines to only people over 65 or individuals with existing health problems. In addition to the ouster of Monarez, three other top CDC officials resigned in protest of Kennedy's leadership including his direction on vaccines. Trump said he's been shown "extraordinary" information from Pfizer that detail the positive effects vaccines had in stopping the spread of the coronavirus but questioned why the same data hasn't been showed to the public.

Read more: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/09/01/trump-drugmakers-covid-vaccines-cdc-kennedy/85927699007/





These people were in fucking loon bubble world. CDC was posting the graphs weekly (including national data), while state/county/municipal health departments were having daily updates. And many of the graphs were posted here, showing all kinds of data for different age groups of "vaccinated" vs "unvaccinated", "cases" vs "hospitalizations" vs "deaths", and even deaths due to ""pneumonia" (in general) vs "COVID" vs "flu".

They disbanded the CDC group (ACIP) that has this data and all of their meetings were live-streamed, with copies of the actual stream, along with meeting agenda/presentation slide-decks made available for download (and archived). I guess brainworm probably wiped it all.










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President Trump demands drugmakers 'justify their success' with COVID vaccines (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Monday OP
... Oeditpus Rex Monday #1
RFK, Jr surfered Monday #2
Love that photo. Thanks riversedge Monday #8
Fully vaccinated, haven't had Covid, haven't died Marthe48 Monday #3
"Science is TOO WOKE.." Jack Valentino Monday #22
Thanks for the post . . . Journeyman Monday #4
Yup, Krasnov can cite himself, gab13by13 Monday #5
Not only did he get vaccinated BumRushDaShow Monday #9
The key is to use science and study to be ready for the next one. Even George Bush knew that. twodogsbarking Monday #6
Oh for Pete's sake. tanyev Monday #7
Laura Loomer is happy as are the Right wingers on X.......... riversedge Monday #10
I'm convinced that Loomer is a manifestation of an internal polyp from Trump's colon. chowder66 Monday #11
I think that Trump is a manifestation of an internal polyp from Loomer's colon... Jack Valentino Monday #23
I'm a good statistic. I got all the Moderna vaccines... ananda Monday #12
Does anyone really think that he'd evolves Monday #13
He can't even handle a 1-pager summary BumRushDaShow Monday #14
Lymphoma survivor bmichaelh Monday #15
I'm immune-suppressed and survived covid - but I kept isolated TBF Monday #16
Another distraction from his cover up of the Epstein scandal he is in. Justice matters. Monday #17
Florida had a woman who was keeping track of COVID deaths and posting them on a state website. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Monday #18
Trump demands pharmaceutical companies release Covid drug success rates LetMyPeopleVote Monday #19
Billions of doses given safely around the globe. Hard to imagine a more travelingthrulife Monday #20
Won't be long, and magats will be shoving horse dewormer Emile Monday #21

Marthe48

(21,640 posts)
3. Fully vaccinated, haven't had Covid, haven't died
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 01:19 PM
Monday

Before the vaccinations, I know of 21 people who died of Covid. After the vaccinations, no one I know or know of died of Covid. There were people I know or know of, who got Covid in spite of being vaccinated, but weren't hospitalized and didn't die.

Unlike pretending Covid isn't a deadly disease or doesn't exist, thinking that drinking bleach or shoving a flashlight up your can, vaccines work. Science works.

Journeyman

(15,377 posts)
4. Thanks for the post . . .
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 01:22 PM
Monday

The flabby freak knows the efficacy of the vaccines: he received one after he recovered from the plague.

And all of us with our heads outside our anuses can easily see the chaos at the CDC is between the informed vs the idiots. Even Trump admits he's seen "extraordinary" information from Pfizer, so why not just release what he knows and quell the madness?

gab13by13

(29,582 posts)
5. Yup, Krasnov can cite himself,
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 01:33 PM
Monday

as proof that vaccines and treatment after getting Covid work.

BumRushDaShow

(159,191 posts)
9. Not only did he get vaccinated
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 01:45 PM
Monday

(because he bragged about facilitating this with "Operation Warp Speed" ) but also got the infusion of monoclonal antibodies initially -

Update: Here's what is known about Trump's COVID-19 treatment

and later, remdesivir & a steroid as part of his treatment.

twodogsbarking

(15,415 posts)
6. The key is to use science and study to be ready for the next one. Even George Bush knew that.
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 01:36 PM
Monday

Trump doesn't want answers, he just wants support for his lunacy.
“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.”
― Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

riversedge

(77,501 posts)
10. Laura Loomer is happy as are the Right wingers on X..........
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 02:12 PM
Monday


Laura Loomer @LauraLoomer
·
2h
Finally.

President Trump is about to find out that the “experts” lied to him about Operation Warp Speed the entire time.

Why did the Gatekeepers hide this information from him for so many years?





Jack Valentino

(3,140 posts)
23. I think that Trump is a manifestation of an internal polyp from Loomer's colon...
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 10:06 PM
Monday

but of course their ages don't support this theory. lol

ananda

(32,937 posts)
12. I'm a good statistic. I got all the Moderna vaccines...
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 02:42 PM
Monday

and never got Covid once.

And believe me, being at bridge tournaments,
I've been exposed.

bmichaelh

(916 posts)
15. Lymphoma survivor
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 03:29 PM
Monday

Last edited Mon Sep 1, 2025, 04:00 PM - Edit history (1)

This is my story.
It is complicated because my DLBCL lymphoma returned in 2019 before COVID.

I got COVID twice.

First time, summer of 2021, I was not vaccinated.
It was not my choice; there were rules about COVID vaccinations and CAR-T treatment for lymphoma.
Unfortunately, CAR-T still failed to produce complete remission.

Second time was in November 2022, I had been vaccinated in September 2022.
I had developed COVID pneumonia and required hospitalization.
I was undergoing maintenance treatments of Monjuvi for lymphoma.
I had achieved complete remission in August 2022.

I am still receiving maintenance treatments of lymphoma.
Also, my doctor recommends COVID vaccinations but they changed their policy.
I no longer receive the vaccinations the same day as treatment, like I did in September 2022.
Doctor feels that efficacy of vaccination is compromised when I receive treatment that suppresses my immune system on the same day,

Trump got his booster shots in private. Never in public like Biden or Harris.
He once tried to boast he got them to his base but was booed.
He also bragged that COVID vaccines saved lives.
Plus, Trump was not happy that he did not get the credit he felt he deserved

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/trump-reveals-he-got-covid-19-booster-shot-to-a-booing-crowd

No amount of evidence will know convince Trump that vaccines save lives.

Trump is not concerned about anybody's health.
For example, ACA saved my life. Trump tried to repeal the law.
When lymphoma returned in 2019, I went through 4 different treatments over 2 years; all failed.
ACA provided me the opportunity to try a fifth treatment with ACA banning lifetime limits.

Trump could have pursued a different legacy; pushing for mRNA vaccines as treatment for cancer.
It is already being used in trials of pancreatic cancer.
But RFK Jr is the wrong person to be head of HHS for such an endeavor.
Plus, Trump would never do that because he felt did not get the credit he felt he deserved before.

TBF

(35,183 posts)
16. I'm immune-suppressed and survived covid - but I kept isolated
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 03:37 PM
Monday

and didn't actually get it until I traveled for family issues in 2022. I had several vaccines prior to that. I was in a study here in TX and learned early that the Pfizer shots were not very effective for me personally, but Moderna gave me antibodies. That is pretty helpful information (thank you science!) for someone in my shoes. I am signed up for the newest later this week. If CVS ends up refusing (I am still under 65) I will need to go to my primary instead, but they have ample evidence of my immune suppressing meds so I am hopeful.

Justice matters.

(8,816 posts)
17. Another distraction from his cover up of the Epstein scandal he is in.
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 05:19 PM
Monday

Like he will interpret the data correctly...

18. Florida had a woman who was keeping track of COVID deaths and posting them on a state website.
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 05:58 PM
Monday

When the numbers got too large -- and contradicted DeSatan's fantasy that his state was the only one not affected by the disease -- they fired her.

When she left she set up her own website and continued her work, gathering the publicly available information from across the state and publishing it in the form of a dashboard that provided the data that DeSatan did not want to see the light of day.

Using her website you could determine how many of the deaths were unvaccinated (a lot) and vaccinated (relatively few), male/female, age, etc.

Facts are the Repugs kryptonite.

LetMyPeopleVote

(169,020 posts)
19. Trump demands pharmaceutical companies release Covid drug success rates
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 06:25 PM
Monday

My oldest was in the initial Pfzier COVID trial. Luckily my oldest was in the vaccine group. Pfzier did not tell him which group he was in until early January. These vaccines are carefully tested and approved.

Trump's demand to make the data public comes amid escalating divisions between the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

I think they should provide that only after the Trump administration provided their failure rates.

Trump demands pharmaceutical companies release Covid drug success rates www.nbcnews.com/health/healt...

(@tonvin.bsky.social) 2025-09-01T21:20:32.359Z

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/trump-demands-pharmaceutical-companies-release-covid-drug-success-rate-rcna228397

President Donald Trump demanded that pharmaceutical companies release data pertaining to the success rates of their Covid "drugs" in order to clear up the what he called a discrepancy "mess" over the products, though some information already appears to be available......

He did not specify what data he would like to be released, nor what specific "drugs" he meant, whether that be vaccination or anti-viral medications such as Paxlovid.

Pfizer, the only company named by Trump, did not immediately respond to a request for comment. In a press release announcing its distribution for new vaccinations last week, the company did include a link to its most recent presentation, from May, on its vaccine efficacy.

Moderna’s presentation, also from May, is similarly available through the Food and Drug Administration’s website......

Vaccinations must be approved through the FDA, which requires companies to submit data for review. Since 2020, manufacturers have submitted new Covid vaccines for approval to target specific strains similar to the annual flu vaccination.

The latest vaccination strain was unanimously approved to be distributed this fall by the FDA's Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee.

I am amused by the fact that my oldest is now using the Moderna vaccine because it has more active ingredient compared to the Pfzier vaccine.

travelingthrulife

(3,117 posts)
20. Billions of doses given safely around the globe. Hard to imagine a more
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 06:46 PM
Monday

successful test of the vaccine.

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