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BumRushDaShow

(156,823 posts)
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 03:53 PM 10 hrs ago

Tesla autopilot on trial: DMV seeks to suspend the company from doing business in California

Source: San Francisco Chronicle

July 21, 2025


The fate of Tesla’s business in California, at least for the next 30 days, could be decided in a stuffy second-floor hearing room in Oakland. There, attorneys for the electric car company and the Department of Motor Vehicles are facing off this week before an administrative judge, over claims that Tesla deceived consumers with its autopilot and self-driving features.

Officials at the DMV filed those allegations in July 2022 and amended them in November 2023, seeking to suspend Tesla’s licenses to manufacture and sell vehicles in California for at least 30 days. Additionally, the department is pursuing a court order for the electric vehicle to pay an undetermined sum in restitution. In court filings, attorneys for the state Department of Justice have cited four phrases or product descriptions from Tesla’s website that state officials describe as misleading or that amount to false advertising.

These include: “autopilot”; “full self-driving capability”; a promise that the system “is designed to be able to conduct short and long-distance trips with no action required by the person in the driver’s seat”; and claims that cars can effectively drive people to their destinations, with the vehicle navigating streets, freeways and intersections and then automatically parking itself. “These labels and descriptions represent specifically that respondent (Tesla)’s vehicles will operate as autonomous vehicles, which they could not and cannot do,” Attorney General Rob Bonta wrote in a July 17 brief.

Attorneys for Tesla argue, to the contrary, that while the company’s driver assistance technology qualifies as “state of the art,” the company “has always made clear” that its vehicles are not fully autonomous, and that they require “active driver supervision” from a human. On Monday, each side presented opening statements before Administrative Judge Juliet Cox, and laid out how the case could shape how self-driving car features are marketed in the future.

Read more: https://www.sfchronicle.com/california/article/tesla-self-driving-dmv-20778527.php



I just heard this story on my local CBS radio affiliate about a half hour ago!
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Tesla autopilot on trial: DMV seeks to suspend the company from doing business in California (Original Post) BumRushDaShow 10 hrs ago OP
Muskrat lying? Inconceivable! Dave Bowman 10 hrs ago #1
It still unsettling to me (almost 60) hearing of cases involving self-driving cars, deepfakes, Torchlight 10 hrs ago #2
I have been telling people we were headed Miguelito Loveless 9 hrs ago #4
I'm referring to the advances en toto Torchlight 9 hrs ago #5
I agree Miguelito Loveless 9 hrs ago #6
It will be fun to watch Miguelito Loveless 9 hrs ago #3
No way I would ride in a self driving car. boonecreek 8 hrs ago #7
Should have been decided long ago. Shipwack 1 hr ago #8
doesn't matter... myohmy2 6 min ago #9

Torchlight

(5,138 posts)
2. It still unsettling to me (almost 60) hearing of cases involving self-driving cars, deepfakes,
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 04:14 PM
10 hrs ago

and reads-like-they're-real AI news stories. Future-Ideas that were magnificent in their neon imagination during the 80s haven't come close to the here and now as it is.

I finally get the 'this is a whole new world for me' thing. I'm pretty I would have called me an idiot and laughed me out of the mall if I time travelled to then and told myself what's happening now.

Miguelito Loveless

(5,085 posts)
4. I have been telling people we were headed
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 04:40 PM
9 hrs ago

where we are politically since the 2000 election. And yet I am still called "doomsayer" and "hysterical".

Torchlight

(5,138 posts)
5. I'm referring to the advances en toto
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 04:45 PM
9 hrs ago

and their collective change over our cultural environment. I'm not calling it good or bad or assigning a judgement call to it, only that its arrival was both surprising to me in its form and content.

From Photoshop and AI to Smart Appliances and Q-Computing, they've taken me by surprise, sometimes a good surprise, sometimes not. I'm not predicting doom or eden, just more change.

Shipwack

(2,780 posts)
8. Should have been decided long ago.
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 01:15 AM
1 hr ago

The false advertising should also been prosecuted at the federal level. They have been outright lying about the “autopilot” for years. Even if the actual written descriptions were accurate (which I don’t think think they were), spoken statements and interviews have pushed the lie.

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