Trump admin and Catholic priests secure victory against child abuse reporting law that would violate the confidentiality
Source: Law & Crime
Jul 18th, 2025, 4:26 pm
The Trump administration secured a victory for the confidentiality of the confessional booth as a federal judge temporarily blocked a recently-enacted anti-child abuse statute in Washington state.
In a 25-page order, U.S. District Judge David G. Estudillo, a Joe Biden appointee, issued a preliminary injunction that keeps mandatory reporting legislation passed this year from going into effect. Absent the court's order, SB 5375 would have become operative on July 27.
The law requires "any member of the clergy" who "has reasonable cause to believe that a child has suffered abuse or neglect" to "report such incident, or cause a report to be made, to the proper law enforcement agency." This directive updates a pre-existing law that applies to a large swathe of job titles like social workers, school personnel, nurses, law enforcement officers, psychologists, and more.
The plaintiffs led by Paul D. Etienne, the Roman Catholic Archbishop of Seattle sued to enjoin the law in late May. Their 46-page original petition alleged a host of First Amendment violations as well as violations of the 14th Amendment's guarantee of equal protection. The U.S. Department of Justice joined the fray with a motion to intervene in late June, specifically challenging the law in terms of its application to information learned in the confessional booth.
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Full headline: 'Clergy were explicitly singled out': Trump admin and Catholic priests secure victory against child abuse reporting law that would violate the confidentiality of confessional
Link to ORDER (PDF viewer) - https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/26002525-etienne-v-ferguson-order/
Link to ORDER (PDF) - https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/26002525/etienne-v-ferguson-order.pdf

tulipsandroses
(7,689 posts)Heck in some states, ordinary citizens are required to report suspected abuse.
Irish_Dem
(72,465 posts)The rest of us have to follow the law.
JT45242
(3,491 posts)I volunteer at a protestant church camp. We go through training every other year as mandatory reporters. All the clergy as well even though they must go thru the training to get and maintain standing.
Child abuse should never be allowed to be covered up.
But as Jimmy Carr says about the Pope, any Pope...he is the king of the pedos
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,982 posts)
within a few days of passing this law, they passed another law that expands the attorney-client privilege for the same offenses by including (sounds like) law professors who are working cases with clients.
The ruling does not apply to any knowledge gained outside of the confessional during an actual confession - plaintiffs didnt challenge that, and such reporting is still required.
mgardener
(2,102 posts)That the law would include anything said to a priest in confession.
I'm sure a lot of sex abuse has been covered up under the seal of confession.
IbogaProject
(4,663 posts)This is disgusting. They should be ashamed of them selves covering up for violent criminals instead of just letting them face justice early on and reducing repeat crimes.
popsdenver
(27 posts)Damn Straight!!!!!!!!!!!
All because of a Dr. here in Colorado by the Name of Henry Kempe who in the late 60's authored The Battered Child Syndrome.
He was a Professor of Pediatrics at CU Medical School and implemented laws here in Colorado that spread across the entire nation.
Previous to those laws, if a teacher, doctor, etc reported child abuse, they would almost always get sued by the parent, and the parent would most often win.
Kempe's influence caused the laws to be changed to where a Dr., Teacher, etc could be criminally charged for NOT reporting suspected child abuse.
Not only that, if they reported child abuse, they were immune from being sued.
After these Catholic priests behavior being documented these past decades, I can sure as hell see why they wouldn't want these laws to apply to them.......The Boy Scout leaders will be next, and then the children's team's coaches, etc etc etc.....
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,982 posts)a full exemption for Catholic priests to report.
mgardener
(2,102 posts)Anything discussed in the confessional.
Polybius
(20,535 posts)Catholic law mandates that they be expunged from Priesthood if they tell anyone. It's been a while, but I believe they can't even tell another Priest.
Permanut
(7,329 posts)Is suing for the right to keep silent about child abuse.
Got it.
Irish_Dem
(72,465 posts)So many in the catholic church are pedophiles. Both priests and parishioners.
kkmarie
(271 posts)The church used the first amendment to get the IRS ruling that not being able to endorse candidates or speak politics is against their First Amendment rights.
Then the church used it again to fight against the law that made it mandatory to report child abuse etc. And the court sided with the church.
This is just sickening.
On the bright side Pope Leo IS the catholic church. I'm 💯 certain Pope Leo won't be supporting any magas.
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,982 posts)...but 100% guarantee that he supports this ruling.
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,982 posts)...did not push to change the IRS rules about endorsing political parties and/or candidates, and says that they will continue with the no endorsement policy.
https://www.usccb.org/news/2025/catholic-church-maintains-its-stance-not-endorsing-or-opposing-political-candidates
Vinca
(52,401 posts)
2na fisherman
(36 posts)So is a priest still permitted to give a child a benediction in the rectory?
Icanthinkformyself
(336 posts)of the First Amendment rights of pedophiles to report their crimes.
Jacson6
(1,435 posts)These are basically witnesses to a crime, so they shouldn't be exempt.
FakeNoose
(37,916 posts)

Nigrum Cattus
(738 posts)Right wing religious extremists, project 2025, are
immoral and dangerous.
Karasu
(1,640 posts)predators at a time where sexual predators are very much at the forefront of awareness.
For reasons they know full well.
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,982 posts)...there would have been no need to defend the secrecy of the confessional until a law mandating that they break the secrecy was enacted, which was May 7 of this year, and the lawsuit was filed on May 29.
travelingthrulife
(2,886 posts)the nelm
(119 posts)with an image of him as Pope?
bucolic_frolic
(51,502 posts)so it's good to have someone experienced in the genre go to bat for you.
Ritabert
(1,378 posts)truthisfreedom
(23,430 posts)protecting the abusers.