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LetMyPeopleVote

(167,017 posts)
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 02:24 PM Jul 17

Trump underwent vascular testing because of leg swelling: White House

Source: ABC

President Donald Trump underwent vascular testing after he had swelling in his legs, with all results within normal limits, White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said Thursday.

Leavitt said Trump noted "mild swelling in his lower legs," which prompted the White House medical team to evaluate him.

"The president underwent a comprehensive examination including diagnostic vascular studies, bilateral lower extremity intravenous doppler ultrasounds were performed and revealed chronic venous insufficiency, a benign and common condition, particularly in individuals over the age of 70," Leavitt said in the Thursday White House press briefing.

There was no evidence of deep vein thrombosis or arterial disease and an echocardiogram showed normal cardiac structure and function, Leavitt said, adding that all results from testing were "within normal limits."

Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-vascular-testing-leg-swelling-white-house/story?id=123839307




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Trump underwent vascular testing because of leg swelling: White House (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Jul 17 OP
If everything was within normal limits bucolic_frolic Jul 17 #1
Sorry that kind of swelling is not normal Ritabert Jul 17 #2
Same with my mom. FalloutShelter Jul 17 #16
Trump is right on the path azureblue Jul 17 #31
Looks like it. Ritabert Jul 17 #32
Really Bad skin. TY Cha Jul 17 #90
Bat shit crazy- hm, not new... but bat shit crazier with manias...stroke, mini stroke or pending one? mpcamb Jul 17 #97
And Mine Deep State Witch Jul 17 #53
My mother-in-law had the same swelling . . . peggysue2 Jul 17 #26
Sorry for your loss Ritabert Jul 17 #28
Same with my mother 10 years ago and my brother had began having the very early stages of it before he died last year.😟 cstanleytech Jul 17 #54
Same with my dad. SheltieLover Jul 17 #36
I hate to ask, but how long before? Scrivener7 Jul 17 #58
I had it as well last year PatSeg Jul 17 #63
My grandmother had puffy ankles for as long as I can remember Ocelot II Jul 17 #73
Could be hereditary Ritabert Jul 17 #99
Exactly. It's not normal. CousinIT Jul 17 #81
Orrex get in here stat cadoman Jul 17 #3
... SheltieLover Jul 17 #37
Grim Reaper, do your stuff! FakeNoose Jul 17 #69
Won't be long now. Expect a cardiac event in the near future. brush Jul 17 #98
There is nothing " normal" about him Deuxcents Jul 17 #4
Sorry, don't believe a word she says. sinkingfeeling Jul 17 #5
Many people have noticed the swelling LetMyPeopleVote Jul 17 #6
"This is not good." ... No, it's FANTASTIC! JoseBalow Jul 17 #68
Bwah! electric_blue68 Jul 17 #95
They forgot to do an arterial Oxygen flow to Trump's 'brain' Test!! riversedge Jul 17 #7
To do that, they would need a NASA telescope to find bluestarone Jul 17 #85
Sure. I believe that report. Uh huh. yardwork Jul 17 #8
Yeah, Like the doctor that said Traitor weighed Cha Jul 17 #93
His hate-fueled bile is overwhelming his bodies capacity to spew it out over all of us. FailureToCommunicate Jul 17 #9
I was unaware that lies caused leg swelling. jls4561 Jul 17 #10
Yeah, thought it was the nose that grew. nt eppur_se_muova Jul 18 #108
"Normal limits"? You don't get ankles like that when everything's normal. Ocelot II Jul 17 #11
If Leavitt's lips are moving she's lying Ritabert Jul 17 #33
Absolutely! SheltieLover Jul 17 #38
And if her lips are not moving... GReedDiamond Jul 17 #64
Yes! Ritabert Jul 17 #72
I call bullshit Bayard Jul 17 #12
Great idea! SheltieLover Jul 17 #40
Right atreides1 Jul 17 #13
They lie about everything. sop Jul 17 #14
Has anyone ever even seen his legs? kskiska Jul 17 #15
I'm beginning to wonder whether he has cloven hooves instead of normal feet. Ocelot II Jul 17 #25
Bazinga! You win the thread! Maybe that's what they're hiding with that padding? SheltieLover Jul 17 #44
When Mike Johnson said tsf was sent by God, BlueKota Jul 17 #82
Who wants to see his legs? But you have a point there. Katinfl Jul 17 #35
Probably a 13 year old but that was decades ago. I read that somewhere............. Bengus81 Jul 17 #92
Normal.... Mhmmm Quanto Magnus Jul 17 #17
"Within normal limits" my ass! Paladin Jul 17 #18
Cherry on top will be watching him stumble, bumble, and walk in the wrong direction after boasting his legs Attilatheblond Jul 17 #22
The best legs the doctor's ever seen Ritabert Jul 17 #34
"normal"? Tarzanrock Jul 17 #19
I am glad I was not drinking anything when I read this. BlueKota Jul 17 #79
Very likely oswaldactedalone Jul 17 #103
Great, now people noticing their own peripheral edema... Think. Again. Jul 17 #20
Par for the course for this regime, considering the shit RFK Jr. tries to normalize every fucking day. Karasu Jul 17 #55
So, Theil & the American Oligarchs aren't read for JD's ascension to the throne just yet? Attilatheblond Jul 17 #21
"...Leavitt said, adding that all results from testing were "within normal limits." mwmisses4289 Jul 17 #23
So dweller Jul 17 #24
One can hope! SheltieLover Jul 17 #45
He can't lie his way out of death. C_U_L8R Jul 17 #27
I'm gonna take a speculative guess odins folly Jul 17 #29
Absolutely! SheltieLover Jul 17 #46
I was thinking the other night, after seeing his makeup, slightlv Jul 17 #65
I bet you're right BlueKota Jul 17 #84
Leavitt is lying about trump's health LetMyPeopleVote Jul 17 #30
Holy shit, that's not "mild" ankle swelling. That looks like congestive heart failure. nt SunSeeker Jul 17 #42
One can hope! SheltieLover Jul 17 #47
Definitely compression socks. sinkingfeeling Jul 17 #56
He's wearing nine pairs of socks. So says Leavitt. twodogsbarking Jul 17 #66
Description. Etc. Igel Jul 17 #100
This message was self-deleted by its author Ken Dayenu Jul 17 #39
I'm sorry to hear of your dad's struggles SheltieLover Jul 17 #48
This message was self-deleted by its author Ken Dayenu Jul 17 #62
I'm glad your dad is doing well SheltieLover Jul 17 #67
This message was self-deleted by its author Ken Dayenu Jul 17 #86
Can we add a KFC gold card too pls? SheltieLover Jul 17 #88
My money is on congestive heart failure. MontanaMama Jul 17 #41
Yes, please! SheltieLover Jul 17 #49
I know we are all so anxious about any news on his health because we are all looking for something serious. Katinfl Jul 17 #43
It seems like "Cankles" here is in pretty bad shape. mwb970 Jul 17 #50
Oof. That may need to be his new name. It's very mean. Thus perfect. Scrivener7 Jul 17 #60
He's on his last legs? cstanleytech Jul 17 #51
Bullshit Deep State Witch Jul 17 #52
But they forgot to add Diraven Jul 17 #57
Well chronic venous insufficiency is not "normal." Raven123 Jul 17 #59
Not all that incredibly rare. Igel Jul 17 #101
Not rare, but not "normal." Raven123 Jul 17 #104
Oh there he is democrank Jul 17 #61
CVI is not a "benign" condition. AloeVera Jul 17 #70
"There was no evidence of deep vein thrombosis..." Javaman Jul 17 #71
trump has been suffering from this condition for a long while LetMyPeopleVote Jul 17 #74
The Felon has cankles? Oeditpus Rex Jul 17 #75
Izzy dead yet? WestMichRad Jul 17 #76
Can't wait! Hassin Bin Sober Jul 17 #77
Ah, the joyous march to the wood chipper .... nt eppur_se_muova Jul 18 #109
The White House reported The Wizard Jul 17 #78
I'm in his age bracket. My ankles look just fine. Ocelot II Jul 17 #83
Who will be equally as horrible BlueKota Jul 17 #87
Edema.... CousinIT Jul 17 #80
I just assumed that it was overflow from his swollen head Bristlecone Jul 17 #89
FTR, avg lifespan of US white male is 77 Deminpenn Jul 17 #91
Irrelevant. Igel Jul 17 #102
Just posting an overall average Deminpenn Jul 17 #107
Die you miserable fucking piece of shit Blue Owl Jul 17 #94
He will be fine. Relax. twodogsbarking Jul 17 #96
This letter from trump's doctor smells LetMyPeopleVote Jul 17 #105
Agree. Smells like 💩 BlueKota Jul 17 #106
After an Eco-cardiogram, results showed my late husband's ejection fraction less than 25% ProudMNDemocrat Jul 18 #110

Ritabert

(1,429 posts)
2. Sorry that kind of swelling is not normal
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 02:26 PM
Jul 17

My mother-in-law developed it before she passed of congestive heart failure.

azureblue

(2,503 posts)
31. Trump is right on the path
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 02:59 PM
Jul 17

Easy bruising, swelling hands, bad skin, swollen feet. Not to mention mental problems and evidence of a mild stroke..

mpcamb

(3,132 posts)
97. Bat shit crazy- hm, not new... but bat shit crazier with manias...stroke, mini stroke or pending one?
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 05:40 PM
Jul 17

peggysue2

(12,064 posts)
26. My mother-in-law had the same swelling . . .
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 02:52 PM
Jul 17

Shortly before she died.

Her lungs were severely damaged and her heart was working overtime to compensate. When I look back, she had a number of symptoms that appeared gradual in nature (and not that awful) until everything fell apart all at once.

cstanleytech

(27,817 posts)
54. Same with my mother 10 years ago and my brother had began having the very early stages of it before he died last year.😟
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 03:32 PM
Jul 17

PatSeg

(50,679 posts)
63. I had it as well last year
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 03:45 PM
Jul 17

And it was congestive heart failure. Clearly, this man is not in "excellent health". If people online had not pointed out the swollen ankles and bruised hand, I don't think it is likely that the White House would have disclosed anything about his condition.

Ocelot II

(126,333 posts)
73. My grandmother had puffy ankles for as long as I can remember
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 04:06 PM
Jul 17

and she lived to be 98, finally dying of old age but not specifically of heart failure. I'm not sure what caused her ankles to swell - there are a number of reasons, even being overweight or on your feet a lot - but even in her early '90s she always seemed pretty robust. Trump looks a lot sicklier than Grandma ever did.

CousinIT

(11,673 posts)
81. Exactly. It's not normal.
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 04:34 PM
Jul 17

Even for someone over 70. It is indicative of serious pulmonary issues.

LetMyPeopleVote

(167,017 posts)
6. Many people have noticed the swelling
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 02:29 PM
Jul 17

This report is to try to pretend that trump is not as sick as he is. The trump white house is worried


Cha

(313,308 posts)
93. Yeah, Like the doctor that said Traitor weighed
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 05:28 PM
Jul 17

such and such and was so tall.. when clearly he wasn't .

Everything is a Lie is the only foundation.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,548 posts)
9. His hate-fueled bile is overwhelming his bodies capacity to spew it out over all of us.
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 02:31 PM
Jul 17

...But I'm no doctor.

Ocelot II

(126,333 posts)
11. "Normal limits"? You don't get ankles like that when everything's normal.
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 02:31 PM
Jul 17

Edematous ankles can also be a sign of congestive heart failure. And can we believe anything Leavitt says about anything?

atreides1

(16,799 posts)
13. Right
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 02:36 PM
Jul 17

As if anything coming out her mouth ever bears a shred of truth!

Leg swelling, also known as peripheral edema, can result from various underlying causes, ranging from relatively minor to serious conditions. It occurs when excess fluid accumulates in the tissues of the lower legs, often due to problems with blood circulation, the lymphatic system, or other medical conditions.

SheltieLover

(72,201 posts)
44. Bazinga! You win the thread! Maybe that's what they're hiding with that padding?
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 03:14 PM
Jul 17


I'm sure no offense was intended to our cloven-hooved planetary neighbors.

BlueKota

(4,450 posts)
82. When Mike Johnson said tsf was sent by God,
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 04:35 PM
Jul 17

my immediate thought was he was sent by someone, but it wasn't God. It was most likely this guy.

Paladin

(31,134 posts)
18. "Within normal limits" my ass!
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 02:43 PM
Jul 17

Wait until trump starts spewing about this: "Greatest vascular test results in human HISTORY! Absolutely PERFECT legs!"

I can hear him screaming it now. The only fun part will be watching him try to pronounce "vascular" properly...

Attilatheblond

(6,779 posts)
22. Cherry on top will be watching him stumble, bumble, and walk in the wrong direction after boasting his legs
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 02:46 PM
Jul 17
 

Tarzanrock

(1,250 posts)
19. "normal"?
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 02:43 PM
Jul 17

If the Turd is "normal," then why does the ginormous piece of shit have difficulty walking on those swollen ankles and legs and why is he always hunched over leaning forward? Maybe, he is just constantly constipated?

BlueKota

(4,450 posts)
79. I am glad I was not drinking anything when I read this.
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 04:30 PM
Jul 17

It would be all over my shirt because of laughter!

 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
20. Great, now people noticing their own peripheral edema...
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 02:44 PM
Jul 17

...will see Leavitt lying about trump's edema, think it's "normal", and not do anything about it to protect their own health.

Irresponsible isn't a strong enough word for these people.

Karasu

(1,716 posts)
55. Par for the course for this regime, considering the shit RFK Jr. tries to normalize every fucking day.
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 03:33 PM
Jul 17

Attilatheblond

(6,779 posts)
21. So, Theil & the American Oligarchs aren't read for JD's ascension to the throne just yet?
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 02:45 PM
Jul 17

Guess they are waiting for a staged reason to declare martial law? Gonna keep their goons in gear to provoke more people?

mwmisses4289

(1,663 posts)
23. "...Leavitt said, adding that all results from testing were "within normal limits."
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 02:47 PM
Jul 17

Liar, liar, pants on fire 🔥!

odins folly

(435 posts)
29. I'm gonna take a speculative guess
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 02:55 PM
Jul 17

That all the BS about President Biden and “declining cognitive” bla, bla was to get out in front of all of shitbag’s health issues.

And when he does croak for whatever, republicans will throw cover at ANY inquiry into how Baghdad Barbie LIED TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!!!!!!!

Fuck these people

slightlv

(6,202 posts)
65. I was thinking the other night, after seeing his makeup,
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 03:50 PM
Jul 17

that no matter when he dies, or what he dies from, or how he dies it WILL be blamed on a democrat or democrats in general. The lies they're telling now are but laying out the red carpet for the story they're gonna come up with about how his death wasn't "natural"... and start pointing fingers (ala the scotus judge)

BlueKota

(4,450 posts)
84. I bet you're right
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 04:41 PM
Jul 17

They will probably blame it on the pressure Democrats and tsf's "past supporters, are putting on him to release the Epstein files.

Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

Response to SheltieLover (Reply #48)

SheltieLover

(72,201 posts)
67. I'm glad your dad is doing well
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 03:56 PM
Jul 17

I feel pretty certain there is a lot more wrong with slobby.

Consider his age & diet.

Look at the huge, puffy bags under his eyes.

And that right hand. What's up with that?

Hold the vision.



Response to SheltieLover (Reply #67)

Katinfl

(440 posts)
43. I know we are all so anxious about any news on his health because we are all looking for something serious.
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 03:13 PM
Jul 17

But we have to be realistic. He’s 79, he’s going to have some issues that are age related. Fact of life. Not life threatening, I am afraid. There is nothing I would like more than to see his demise in my lifetime, but we have to be realistic. Now show me something really serious, and I’m all there!.

Deep State Witch

(12,054 posts)
52. Bullshit
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 03:28 PM
Jul 17

I have the same thing. I get my legs ultrasounded every six months - and mine look nowhere near as bad as his do! That shit looks like my grandfather's legs before he died of congestive heart failure.

Diraven

(1,475 posts)
57. But they forgot to add
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 03:35 PM
Jul 17

"And he's the healthiest president America has ever had". Like for every other press release about his doctor exams.

Raven123

(6,883 posts)
59. Well chronic venous insufficiency is not "normal."
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 03:37 PM
Jul 17

No one knows why he has it, and the White House will never tell the truth. So he takes aspirin daily. Many do, but no one takes it who is in “perfect” health to my knowledge.

Igel

(37,029 posts)
101. Not all that incredibly rare.
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 06:42 PM
Jul 17
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK430975/

An estimated 10% to 35% of adults have CVI in the US, with 4% of adults aged 65 years or older developing venous ulcers.[3] Results across studies suggest that in the general population, between 1% and 17% of men and 1% and 40% of women may experience chronic venous insufficiency. Furthermore, the prevalence of varicose veins has been reported to range from under 1% to 70%. The variation in these estimations is likely due to the different diagnostic criteria used and the population surveyed.[1] Globally, the prevalence of CVI is higher in industrialized nations (eg, Western Europe and the US) due to more inactive lifestyles.[5]

The prevalence of venous ulcers, a common complication of CVI, in the US ranges from approximately 1% to 3%.[3] Similarly, lower leg ulceration occurs in approximately 1% to 2% of the global adult population and is reported to increase to 3% in patients older than 65.[5] Formation of an ulcer carries a poor prognosis, with 40% of patients developing recurrence despite standard treatment. Management of chronic venous insufficiency accounts for approximately 2% of the US's total healthcare.[11][12]


If those stats are for the general population and prevalence increases with age, it's more common in the oldest 10% than average.

democrank

(11,673 posts)
61. Oh there he is
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 03:40 PM
Jul 17

in his 24K gold tie and his half-gold hair and his American flag pin.I don’t mean to seem heartless but that photo bothered me so much I had to quickly scroll down to the end. Kind of missed a chunk of the Trump health stuff.

AloeVera

(3,455 posts)
70. CVI is not a "benign" condition.
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 04:02 PM
Jul 17

From wiki:

CVI is not a benign disorder and, with its progression, can lead to morbidity. Venous ulcers are common and very difficult to treat. Chronic venous ulcers are painful and debilitating. Even with treatment, recurrences are common if venous hypertension persists. Nearly 60% develop phlebitis which often progresses to deep vein thrombosis in more than 50% of patients. The venous insufficiency can also lead to severe hemorrhage. Surgery for CVI remains unsatisfactory despite the availability of numerous procedures.[6]

Bolding mine. It's a serious disorder.

So she lied?

Javaman

(64,312 posts)
71. "There was no evidence of deep vein thrombosis..."
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 04:03 PM
Jul 17

"or arterial disease and an echocardiogram showed normal cardiac structure and function, Leavitt said"

yeah, cool story

LetMyPeopleVote

(167,017 posts)
74. trump has been suffering from this condition for a long while
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 04:10 PM
Jul 17

trump probably was suffering from this condition during the election but did not close his medical records


The Wizard

(13,292 posts)
78. The White House reported
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 04:29 PM
Jul 17

this condition is normal for people in his age bracket.
English Translation: Say hello to President Vance.

Ocelot II

(126,333 posts)
83. I'm in his age bracket. My ankles look just fine.
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 04:39 PM
Jul 17

Is Baghdad Barbie trying to tell us that once you're in your '70s your ankles normally puff up like basketballs?

BlueKota

(4,450 posts)
87. Who will be equally as horrible
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 04:49 PM
Jul 17

and unfortunately younger. Hopefully my psychiatrist is right and that cult loyalty doesn't often transfer to a successor of the original leader.

Igel

(37,029 posts)
102. Irrelevant.
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 06:55 PM
Jul 17

That's the average for somebody born now, accounting for incidence of old age diseases, car crashes, homicides, suicides, childhood illnesses, drug overdoses ... Them's the odds without taking into account anything else but the newborn and all the risks.

There's also life expectancy given your current age (I've seen it called 'expectancy of life' to avoid confusion with 'life expectancy at birth', but that's apparently not the usual term).

I'm 66. Regardless of the life expectancy for somebody born in 1959, the New York State tables say I have--on average--15 years left to live. That's 81. Another table, from census.gov, for the cohort of males born from 1959-61 say life expectancy is 66.94 (specifically for Maryland). The difference? I survived this long, I'm treated by different medical practices, I've survived all the crap that could have killed me off so far--and my SES is built in, whether great, meh, or crappy health care access.

The NYS table gives a 79-year-old man an additional 7.78 years--on average. So 86, pushing towards 87. Because having lived that long, he's missed all kinds of things that could have killed him by now--with all the same hedges. And his life expectancy at birth would have, I'm guessing, been lower than mine. 1944 instead of 1959, more or less.

Elementary stats--and this is just averages.

Deminpenn

(16,933 posts)
107. Just posting an overall average
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 09:49 PM
Jul 17

For every white make who lives longer than the average age, another white make has to die younger than it.

ProudMNDemocrat

(19,980 posts)
110. After an Eco-cardiogram, results showed my late husband's ejection fraction less than 25%
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 05:52 AM
Jul 18

Having lived through this with my husband's last days, the swelling in his legs, hands, abdomen, elsewhere, was a result of severe Congestive Heart Failure. His Type II Diabetes made worse due to the swelling. When the heart is not pumping effectively, oxygen does not get to the brain and the vital organs. My husband was experiencing memory issues complicated by the heart Failure despite having a more high powered pace maker put in in March.

Trump is in the throes of heart Failure and the cover up is obvious. Swelling and discoloring of the skin. I know the signs. Notice how he is slurring his words more? His use of even more makeup? Low blood oxygen pales the skin. It will only get worse for the TACO from here on out despite the cover up of his health.

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