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Omaha Steve

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Mon Jul 14, 2025, 12:05 PM Jul 14

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We trade with Russia? Prairie Gates Jul 14 #1
They are still under sanctions Bayard Jul 14 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Bayard Jul 14 #5
Yes, despite the sanctions we import metals, chemicals, fertilizers, wood, etc. IronLionZion Jul 14 #7
We need to figure out who these clowns are exactly, they need to be boycotted ck4829 Jul 14 #11
The sanctions/trade tariffs would be on countries who buy Russian oil, like India EX500rider Jul 14 #16
Secondary tarrifs, such as China manicdem Jul 14 #18
TACO yankee87 Jul 14 #2
What a sick joke. Dave Bowman Jul 14 #3
Easy resolution really. Russia withdraws from all of the Ukrainian territory including the Crimean Peninsula. cstanleytech Jul 14 #6
What happens when Putin gives a more 'escalated' threat of nuclear war, Turd? Tarzanrock Jul 14 #8
Bullshit JoseBalow Jul 14 #9
Pooty is laughing at the orange wanna be dictator right now kimbutgar Jul 14 #10
This will be viewed by Putin as weak blue-wave Jul 14 #12
The glass is half-full thanks to the Fuhrer-Turd. Tarzanrock Jul 14 #13
I thought his "Vladimir STOP!" tweet was going to fix everything!!11!11!11!!!!@@ PSPS Jul 14 #14
Vladi: This is your signal to RELEASE THE PEE TAPE NOW!! (nt) Pinback Jul 14 #15
Maddow Blog-Why Trump's 'major' announcement on Russia sounds familiar -- and falls far short LetMyPeopleVote Jul 14 #17
US tariff threat leaves Russia less rattled than relieved muriel_volestrangler Jul 14 #19
No dessert with dinner. That will teach them a lesson. twodogsbarking Jul 14 #20

Prairie Gates

(5,706 posts)
1. We trade with Russia?
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 12:10 PM
Jul 14

What in the world?

Bayard

(26,058 posts)
4. They are still under sanctions
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 12:19 PM
Jul 14

Per google. I can't believe trump hasn't lifted those. Standing up to his daddy. Not believing that either.

Response to Prairie Gates (Reply #1)

IronLionZion

(49,488 posts)
7. Yes, despite the sanctions we import metals, chemicals, fertilizers, wood, etc.
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 01:01 PM
Jul 14

ck4829

(37,019 posts)
11. We need to figure out who these clowns are exactly, they need to be boycotted
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 02:13 PM
Jul 14

EX500rider

(11,933 posts)
16. The sanctions/trade tariffs would be on countries who buy Russian oil, like India
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 03:10 PM
Jul 14

manicdem

(529 posts)
18. Secondary tarrifs, such as China
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 05:32 PM
Jul 14

This is for secondary tarrifs for countries still trading with Russia mainly China, but also other countries such as european nations that still buy Russian energy products. China would get hit with an additional 50% tarriff.

yankee87

(2,616 posts)
2. TACO
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 12:11 PM
Jul 14

No one believes this anymore.

Dave Bowman

(5,499 posts)
3. What a sick joke.
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 12:13 PM
Jul 14

cstanleytech

(27,782 posts)
6. Easy resolution really. Russia withdraws from all of the Ukrainian territory including the Crimean Peninsula.
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 12:54 PM
Jul 14

Followed by paying war reparations and turning over everyone involved in war crimes to an International tribunal.

Tarzanrock

(1,227 posts)
8. What happens when Putin gives a more 'escalated' threat of nuclear war, Turd?
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 01:03 PM
Jul 14

Who is going to back down then, Turd? Where is that nuclear football? Does Rubio have it? Kegsbreath? ICE Barbie? Herr Himmler-Miller, does he have it?

JoseBalow

(7,966 posts)
9. Bullshit
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 01:16 PM
Jul 14

I don't believe anything he says until I see it.

kimbutgar

(25,596 posts)
10. Pooty is laughing at the orange wanna be dictator right now
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 02:08 PM
Jul 14

I hope he releases his copies of the Epstein tapes.

blue-wave

(4,730 posts)
12. This will be viewed by Putin as weak
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 02:23 PM
Jul 14

50 more days for Putin to genocide more Ukrainians. Why the waiting period? Our ally Ukraine has waited long enough. Impose draconian tariffs on anyone doing business with the despotic Putin regime, now!!!!

Tarzanrock

(1,227 posts)
13. The glass is half-full thanks to the Fuhrer-Turd.
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 02:34 PM
Jul 14

I'm optimistic that the Turd, because of his 'special' relationship with the Russian War Criminal/Dictator, that a 'deal' can be reached by giving Vladimir Putin 1/2 of Ukraine; Alaska; and, Lativa; Lithuania; and, Estonia. We get to keep Hawaii thanks to the Turd's famous deal-making 'negotiating' skills but Russia also gets "most favored nation" trading status with the US and there will be a new Trump Hotel in Moscow.

PSPS

(14,728 posts)
14. I thought his "Vladimir STOP!" tweet was going to fix everything!!11!11!11!!!!@@
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 02:36 PM
Jul 14

Pinback

(13,326 posts)
15. Vladi: This is your signal to RELEASE THE PEE TAPE NOW!! (nt)
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 02:49 PM
Jul 14

LetMyPeopleVote

(166,604 posts)
17. Maddow Blog-Why Trump's 'major' announcement on Russia sounds familiar -- and falls far short
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 04:31 PM
Jul 14

For the fifth time, the American president has threatened Russia with economic sanctions. The first four times, Trump failed to follow through.

Late January: Trump threatens Putin with sanctions, fails to follow through

Early March: Same thing happens again

Late March: Same thing happens again

Early May: Same thing happens again

Today: Trump again threatens Putin with sanctions, gives Putin another 50 days www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddo...

Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2025-07-14T16:32:36.866Z

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trumps-major-announcement-russia-sounds-familiar-falls-far-short-rcna218677

Those expecting the “major statement” to be an important breakthrough probably should’ve known better. NBC News reported:

Trump said the U.S. will send weapons to Ukraine through NATO, which will pay for and distribute them, and threatened secondary tariffs targeting Russia if a ceasefire deal isn’t reached. ‘We’re going to be doing secondary tariffs if we don’t have a deal in 50 days,’ Trump said. ‘It’s very simple, and they’ll be at 100%.’


In other words, the “major statement” was Trump threatening Russia with sanctions — again.

https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:4llrhdclvdlmmynkwsmg5tdc/post/3ltwqeojolk2w



If the rhetoric sounds at all familiar, there’s a good reason for that.

In late January, just two days after his second inaugural, Trump told Russia that if it failed to end its war in Ukraine quickly, the White House “would have no other choice” but to impose new economic sanctions. Putin proceeded to ignore the threat, and Trump failed to follow through.

In early March, it happened again: Trump gave Putin a choice — sanctions or a ceasefire — and the Russian leader again ignored his American counterpart. Trump again failed to follow through.

In late March, Trump once again said he was prepared to impose economic penalties on Russia. In keeping with the pattern, Putin ignored the threat, and Trump failed to follow through.

In early May, for the fourth time in four months, Trump wrote online, “If the ceasefire is not respected, the U.S. and its partners will impose further sanctions.” For the fourth time, Russia expressed indifference. For the fourth time, Trump failed to follow through.

In late May, amid countless headlines about how angry Trump was with Putin, the Republican signaled he was prepared to change course in two weeks. He did not change course in two weeks, and Putin’s military offensive intensified.

In mid June, as Russian attacks against civilian targets worsened, Trump questioned the benefits of sanctioning Russia, complaining the economic penalties cost the United States “a lot of money.”

In mid July, Trump decided to give Putin another 50 days to resolve a conflict that Trump had promised to end within 24 hours of his inauguration.


....Asked what he’d do if Putin ignores the threat, the American president said he didn’t want to talk about it.
https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:4llrhdclvdlmmynkwsmg5tdc/post/3ltwpyu6jmw2c


.....But during his latest White House event, the president said of the legislation, “I’m not sure we need it.”

The New York Times reported earlier this month:

Since President Trump returned to office in January, the United States has issued no new sanctions against Russia related to the full-scale invasion of Ukraine. In some cases, the administration has eased restrictions. And without new ones, analysts say, existing measures lose their force. The result has created an opening for new dummy companies to funnel funds and critical components to Russia, including computer chips and military equipment that would otherwise be cut off to the Kremlin, trade and corporate records show.


Those expecting the Republican administration to do something about this probably shouldn’t hold their breath.

muriel_volestrangler

(104,172 posts)
19. US tariff threat leaves Russia less rattled than relieved
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 05:39 PM
Jul 14
In the Oval Office on Monday, Donald Trump was talking tough, announcing new US arms shipments to Ukraine paid for by European governments, and threatening new tariffs which, if imposed, would hit Russia's war chest.

But, back in Moscow, how did the stock exchange react? It rose 2.7%.

That's because Russia had been bracing for even tougher sanctions from President Trump.
...
It wasn't "pleasant". But Russia will be relieved, for example, that the secondary tariffs against Russia's trading partners will only kick in 50 days from now.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62g6e8zvd4o

twodogsbarking

(14,511 posts)
20. No dessert with dinner. That will teach them a lesson.
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 05:57 PM
Jul 14
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