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SunSeeker

(56,270 posts)
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 05:55 PM Jul 13

An official says a historic Grand Canyon lodge has been destroyed by wildfire

Source: NBC News

A historic lodge on the Grand Canyon's North Rim has been destroyed by a fast-moving wildfire, the park said Sunday.

The Grand Canyon Lodge, the only lodging inside the park at the North Rim, was consumed by the flames, park Superintendent Ed Keable told park residents, staff and others in a meeting Sunday morning. He said the visitor center, the gas station, a waste water treatment plant, an administrative building and some employee housing were among the 50 to 80 structures lost.

Two wildfires are burning at or near the North Rim, known as the White Sage Fire and the Dragon Bravo Fire. The latter is the one that impacted the lodge and other structures. The park initially was managing it as a controlled burn but then shifted to suppression as it rapidly grew to 7.8 square miles (20 square kilometers) because of hot temperatures, low humidity and wind, fire officials said.

The White Sage Fire doubled in size on Sunday, growing from roughly 20,000 acres to 40,000, according to government website that tracks U.S. fires.



Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/grand-canyon-lodge-destroyed-wildfire-rcna218566



First DOGE cuts and now this. A bad summer at Grand Canyon National Park.
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An official says a historic Grand Canyon lodge has been destroyed by wildfire (Original Post) SunSeeker Jul 13 OP
OHHH!!! Terrible news!! I loved these lodges, stayed at the South one, and then the one in Yellowstone one, SWBTATTReg Jul 13 #1
The park initially was managing it as a controlled burn. Lasher Jul 13 #2
Not the best time for control bunrs in AZ, unless it was just after a big monsoon rain fall Attilatheblond Jul 13 #4
I don't think they started it, but they were managing it as a controlled burn. SunSeeker Jul 13 #7
Apparently both fires were caused by lightning strikes. The "let it burn' approach seems to be gaining support though. likesmountains 52 Jul 13 #8
It was started by a lightning strike Farmer-Rick Jul 14 #18
Heartbreaking. emulatorloo Jul 13 #3
I remember going into that lodge and it was so awesome kimbutgar Jul 13 #5
probably not far off the mark RussBLib Jul 13 #6
I was there in 2016 and my husband, son and I thought someday we'd go back to stay there kimbutgar Jul 13 #10
Holy shit Kali Jul 13 #9
Maybe this will help: Ptah Jul 13 #12
Thanks! Kali Jul 13 #13
Yikes! Ptah Jul 13 #14
Yeah Kali Jul 13 #16
It was started by a lightning strike on 4 July Farmer-Rick Jul 14 #19
Can confirm losses Nac Mac Feegle Jul 13 #11
You may not be able to get in Kali Jul 13 #15
It was started by a lightning strike and they decided to manage it as a controlled burn jgmiller Jul 13 #17
Ouch! So sad!... electric_blue68 Jul 14 #20
Grand Canyon North Rim update Nac Mac Feegle Jul 15 #21

SWBTATTReg

(25,527 posts)
1. OHHH!!! Terrible news!! I loved these lodges, stayed at the South one, and then the one in Yellowstone one,
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 05:58 PM
Jul 13

decades and decades ago.

Lasher

(29,087 posts)
2. The park initially was managing it as a controlled burn.
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 06:02 PM
Jul 13

Looks like their on purpose fire got away from them.

Attilatheblond

(6,779 posts)
4. Not the best time for control bunrs in AZ, unless it was just after a big monsoon rain fall
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 06:13 PM
Jul 13

This time of year, weird winds kick up suddenly.

SunSeeker

(56,270 posts)
7. I don't think they started it, but they were managing it as a controlled burn.
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 07:16 PM
Jul 13

In hindsight, I guess they should have tried to immediately put it out rather than let it burn. I don't know if that was standard operating procedure.

likesmountains 52

(4,235 posts)
8. Apparently both fires were caused by lightning strikes. The "let it burn' approach seems to be gaining support though.
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 07:59 PM
Jul 13

Farmer-Rick

(11,887 posts)
18. It was started by a lightning strike
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 07:52 AM
Jul 14

"Started by lightning on July 4, the Dragon Bravo Fire was initially managed by authorities with a “confine and contain” strategy to clear fuel sources. They shifted to aggressive suppression a week later as it rapidly grew to 7.8 square miles because of hot temperatures, low humidity and strong wind gusts, fire officials said.

The White Sage Fire doubled in size on Sunday, growing from roughly 20,000 acres to 40,000, according to government website that tracks U.S. fires."

Too bad they didn't try to put it out when it was first spotted.

kimbutgar

(25,681 posts)
5. I remember going into that lodge and it was so awesome
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 06:20 PM
Jul 13

And sadly it will never get rebuilt under this administration because they hate public parks and he’ll probably sell it off to the highest bidder who gives him a cut on the side deposited into his hidden offshore account.

RussBLib

(9,971 posts)
6. probably not far off the mark
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 07:01 PM
Jul 13

...sad that we assume such things of our "president."

The wife and I stayed at the North Rim Lodge about 30 years ago. Simply magnificent. It's emblematic of what's happening in the country. Disasters coming hot and heavy.

https://russblib.blogspot.com

kimbutgar

(25,681 posts)
10. I was there in 2016 and my husband, son and I thought someday we'd go back to stay there
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 09:07 PM
Jul 13

We took the train from Williams to the Grand Canyon and saw the lodge and said next time we’re staying there.

I’m sad I won’t be able to stay there!

Kali

(56,338 posts)
9. Holy shit
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 08:30 PM
Jul 13

Is there a fire map? I know a family that owns a hotel campground on the area. They had a close fire a few years ago and were pretty pissed off at the Forest Service about it then. Another "contolled" burn. Oh shit

Kali

(56,338 posts)
13. Thanks!
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 09:36 PM
Jul 13

It was Jacob Lake Inn and that White Sage Fire is closer than the other that burned th GC lodge. Too close, really. I saw on their website they were under evacuation orders.

Farmer-Rick

(11,887 posts)
19. It was started by a lightning strike on 4 July
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 07:56 AM
Jul 14

But they were managing it as a controlled fire and it got out of control. Too bad they didn't attempt to put it out when it was first spotted.

Nac Mac Feegle

(981 posts)
11. Can confirm losses
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 09:24 PM
Jul 13

Of North Rim Lodge, North Rim Visitor Center, gas station, and admin building.

Probably going to be there in next few days.

Will expand and give photos if sent.

Real tragedy.

Bad Things happen when budget cuts are done by people that don’t know what they’re doing.

Kali

(56,338 posts)
15. You may not be able to get in
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 09:39 PM
Jul 13

89A is closed on both sides of the Y for 67 ant it is closed as well.

jgmiller

(593 posts)
17. It was started by a lightning strike and they decided to manage it as a controlled burn
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 09:45 PM
Jul 13

which is pretty stupid given it's July. I doubt this had anything to do with the park service cuts, it sounds more like just a dumb decision.

electric_blue68

(22,696 posts)
20. Ouch! So sad!...
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 08:42 PM
Jul 14

"Only" went to the South Rim...which is where I wanted to go. This was part of my across the USA trip in '79.

While I did a good mix of planning, and spur-of-the-moment decisions; the one I didn't think through enough was The Grand Canyon. Didn't occur that the South Lodge, hotel etc would be filled up. Duh!
It also seemed that many rooms were booked from a Phienix to GC run; wherein I was coming from Flagstaff.
.
I took a bus that was a Noonish to 4PM visit. It was partly disappointing at first. BUT...how could that be, it's the GC?!!

Well, at noon; besides the rocks next level down looking a faded red- when you looked out across the whole canyon - it was all blues, from very pale to medium dark, along with darkish red-purples. Hardly any shadows.
Where were the glorious warm colors we all know ?!
It was very flat looking: like a diorama! Didn't look real, at all.Very weird.

But finally around 3PM the sun got to the right angle to bring out the pale yellows, ocher, golden ochers, oranges, red oranges we all know, and love from photos.
*Glorious*!
.
Hopefully, we get our country back, and a Dem administration will rebuilt if this damn republican Congress doesn't!!

Nac Mac Feegle

(981 posts)
21. Grand Canyon North Rim update
Tue Jul 15, 2025, 02:56 PM
Jul 15

It’s bad. Really bad. Almost every North Rim building is either badly damaged or burned down. Inner Canyon is closed.

I’m what would be termed a “second responder”. Infrastructure work. We’re hearing at least two weeks before we can check it out.

This is one of my Favorite Places in the World. More than a little heartbroken.

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