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riversedge

(76,806 posts)
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 02:02 PM Jul 8

Macron: UK and France must save Europe

Source: Politico



“Our two countries have a special responsibility for the security of the continent,” the French president said in an address to both Houses of Parliament.

July 8, 2025 6:51 pm CET By Esther Webber and Clea Caulcutt

LONDON — ...................

“Our two countries have a special responsibility for the security of the continent,” Macron said. “What is at stake today in Europe is our ability to shoulder the responsibility to ensure our continent’s security ourselves to a greater extent.”

The French president has long called on Europe to seek more “strategic autonomy” and become less reliant on the United States, especially when it comes to European defense — a push that has times excluded the U.K.

But Macron’s call for Europe to “derisk” may fall on deaf ears in Westminster, with the U.K. still firmly attached to the special relationship with Washington under Donald Trump.

“We need to derisk our society and economies … We need to derisk excessive dependencies towards the U.S. and China,” he told lawmakers. Macron, however, added that he didn’t put China and the United States in the same basket. ...........................



Read more: https://www.politico.eu/article/emmanuel-macron-uk-france-must-save-europe/









State Visit By The President Of The French Republic – Day One
The French president has long called on Europe to seek more “strategic autonomy."
| POOL photo by Alastair Grand/Getty Images
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Macron: UK and France must save Europe (Original Post) riversedge Jul 8 OP
I'd put more faith in Germany than the UK fujiyamasan Jul 8 #1
That's why labor has to be strict on things like immigration JI7 Jul 8 #4
Misleading headline. speak easy Jul 8 #2
Misleading headline. speak easy Jul 8 #3
Brexit :-( EricL Jul 9 #5

fujiyamasan

(515 posts)
1. I'd put more faith in Germany than the UK
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 02:49 PM
Jul 8

The UK economy is sideways (mostly self inflicted) and I feel like Reform has a real chance of winning at some point. There’s a real frustration throughout the country over everything, which is very similar to here before Trump took over. Angry and frustrated voters often fall for demagogues.

Remember Brexit paved the way for the current path of stupidity we have seen, including Trump.

I know why Macron is saying what he’s saying but I think France and Germany have likely discussed a UK going the same direction as the US.

JI7

(92,364 posts)
4. That's why labor has to be strict on things like immigration
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 05:11 PM
Jul 8

and crime. Same as the US with democrats .

Not doing so allows the other side to exploit and you get more extremist things .

speak easy

(12,079 posts)
2. Misleading headline.
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 05:05 PM
Jul 8

“Our two countries have a special responsibility for the security of the continent,”

France and the UK are the only nuclear armed countries in the EU.

speak easy

(12,079 posts)
3. Misleading headline.
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 05:06 PM
Jul 8

“Our two countries have a special responsibility for the security of the continent,”

France and the UK are the only nuclear armed countries in the EU.

EricL

(105 posts)
5. Brexit :-(
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 11:20 AM
Jul 9

France and the UK are the only nuclear armed countries in the EU

France and the UK are the only nuclear armed countries in Europe

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