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BumRushDaShow

(157,286 posts)
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 05:45 AM Jul 8

TSA to end shoes-off policy for airport security screening

Source: ABC News

July 7, 2025, 11:09 PM


Nearly 20 years after airline passengers were first required to remove their shoes for security, the policy is being phased out.

The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) is planning to allow passengers to keep their shoes on when they go through the general security line at many major airports across the country, two sources told ABC News.

An unexpected memo went out to TSA officers across the country last week stating the new policy will allow all passengers to keep their shoes on in all screening lanes at many airports across the country, starting Sunday.

The goal is to roll the new policy out to all U.S. airports shortly, according to the memo. Previously, only passengers in the TSA PreCheck line were able to keep their shoes on in most cases.

Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/US/tsa-end-shoes-off-policy-airport-security-screening/story?id=123556295



Heard this on the radio this morning. FINALLY!
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TSA to end shoes-off policy for airport security screening (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jul 8 OP
If it means a shoe bomber or hidden weapons get on board, it's worth it to fire TSA workers and give wealthy tax cuts! Doodley Jul 8 #1
so now all the terrorists need to do is put material in their shoes? cadoman Jul 8 #2
But as you might recall BumRushDaShow Jul 8 #3
slippery slope: by that logic there is no reason to have TSA at all cadoman Jul 8 #4
Being a former fed BumRushDaShow Jul 8 #6
That brings memories PatSeg Jul 8 #14
The GOP created the type of thing that they spent decades blaming Democrats for creating BumRushDaShow Jul 8 #16
Republicans milked 9/11 every way they could PatSeg Jul 8 #17
Racial profiling would fail to catch Richard Reid too IronLionZion Jul 8 #13
Why announce it, just don't say anything and don't enforce it quietly. n/t tinymontgomery Jul 8 #5
Because there are lines and lines at the airport checkpoints BumRushDaShow Jul 8 #7
Simpler policy - from now on, 3Hotdogs Jul 8 #8
DUers should know that some shoes have a metal shank in them IronLionZion Jul 8 #9
Yup - the "steel toe work boots" (IIRC, we had some of my agency's employees who were issued those) BumRushDaShow Jul 8 #10
I heard Rebl2 Jul 8 #11
It's supposed to be phased in BumRushDaShow Jul 8 #12
I noticed it wasn't really being done at airports outside of the US fujiyamasan Jul 8 #15
Not really the rollback we were promised amcgrath Jul 8 #18
I fucking flew recently and didn't have to take off a fucking shoe at all. Still got popped and a goddamn pat-down. SoFlaBro Jul 8 #19
LOL, the slow demise of Security Theater maxsolomon Jul 8 #20
Here's the real absurdity of the "shoes off" policy . . . markpkessinger Jul 8 #21

Doodley

(11,202 posts)
1. If it means a shoe bomber or hidden weapons get on board, it's worth it to fire TSA workers and give wealthy tax cuts!
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 07:01 AM
Jul 8

BumRushDaShow

(157,286 posts)
3. But as you might recall
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 07:32 AM
Jul 8

what that guy attempted, didn't work.

If anything, what is more dangerous are missing bolts on airplane doors or bird strikes or even lithium batteries, which are prolific (obviously in laptops and phones), in general.

cadoman

(1,540 posts)
4. slippery slope: by that logic there is no reason to have TSA at all
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 07:37 AM
Jul 8

Because the drive to the airport is always going to be more dangerous than the flight itself.

BumRushDaShow

(157,286 posts)
6. Being a former fed
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 07:46 AM
Jul 8

I remember the whole Waste. Fraud. Abuse. creation of DHS which was NEVER needed. The airport screeners worked for the U.S. Department of Transportation and all the other Departments that were cannibalized to create the monstrosity, could have remained where they were (including everything to do with "Customs" that was under the Department of Treasury and INS, that was under DOJ).

Shrub expanded that to what the convoluted Department that you see today.

I used to work with people from Customs and USDA (another with an agency that got cannibalized and shoved into DHS) and all they could do was facepalm at the mess.

The magnetometer and other screening tech has progressed quite a bit over the past 20 years so keep that in mind as well.

PatSeg

(50,661 posts)
14. That brings memories
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 11:04 AM
Jul 8

So much of it seemed to be for appearances, a reassurance that THEY were keeping America safe but they were just creating a bigger bureaucracy.

BumRushDaShow

(157,286 posts)
16. The GOP created the type of thing that they spent decades blaming Democrats for creating
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 11:22 AM
Jul 8

IOW - "projection". And they used a tragedy to justify it.

The GOP had a trifecta at the time of DHS creation in 2002.

H.R.5005 - Homeland Security Act of 2002

Back then, I think HHS used to be ridiculed as being the largest (non-military) Department.

PatSeg

(50,661 posts)
17. Republicans milked 9/11 every way they could
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 12:17 PM
Jul 8

They know that fear sells and they took full advantage of that for years.

IronLionZion

(49,511 posts)
13. Racial profiling would fail to catch Richard Reid too
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 10:32 AM
Jul 8

that's why TSA invested in upgrading scanning technology in the 2 decades since then. There are many things that give people a false a sense of safety without actually doing anything for safety.

BumRushDaShow

(157,286 posts)
7. Because there are lines and lines at the airport checkpoints
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 07:57 AM
Jul 8

where people are pulling off shoes ahead of time so eventually it would NEVER be able to be kept "hush hush" thanks to social media.

IronLionZion

(49,511 posts)
9. DUers should know that some shoes have a metal shank in them
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 09:19 AM
Jul 8

this is common for boots. That will trigger the metal detector.

BumRushDaShow

(157,286 posts)
10. Yup - the "steel toe work boots" (IIRC, we had some of my agency's employees who were issued those)
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 09:51 AM
Jul 8

But there are also who knows how many with replacement knees and hips and shoulders, let alone metal rods in arm or leg bones and even along the spine (in the neck or back). That's why TSA will also use their hand-held wands!

Rebl2

(16,732 posts)
11. I heard
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 10:10 AM
Jul 8

On Today show this was only going to be tried at a few airports, not every airport right now. Also they said they would scan peoples feet with some type of radio frequency.

BumRushDaShow

(157,286 posts)
12. It's supposed to be phased in
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 10:21 AM
Jul 8

Newsweek had a map - https://www.newsweek.com/map-shows-states-airports-no-longer-requiring-people-remove-shoes-2095824

States With Airports No Longer Requiring People to Remove Shoes



The blue highlight are states with an airport that will have this policy iniitally -

CA - LAX
OR - PDX
KY - CVG (which services Cincinnati)
NY - LGA
PA - PHL
MD - BWI
NC - PTI
FL - FLL

fujiyamasan

(513 posts)
15. I noticed it wasn't really being done at airports outside of the US
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 11:08 AM
Jul 8

It’s most likely a waste of time. If someone is desperate enough to bring something on board, there are other crevasses throughout the body to hide it in.

amcgrath

(409 posts)
18. Not really the rollback we were promised
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 12:57 PM
Jul 8

We are approaching a quarter century of the 'temporary measure' that was the Homeland Security Act. Those watching Trump now, would do well to remember that once it has been taken, no future government surrenders the powers they opposed when in opposition

SoFlaBro

(3,581 posts)
19. I fucking flew recently and didn't have to take off a fucking shoe at all. Still got popped and a goddamn pat-down.
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 01:21 PM
Jul 8

markpkessinger

(8,812 posts)
21. Here's the real absurdity of the "shoes off" policy . . .
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 07:20 PM
Jul 8

It becomes clear just how truly ridiculous the requirement to remove shoes during airport screenings really is when you consider its origins: ONE would-be terrorist -- Richard Reid -- who tried unsuccessfully to ignite his shoes before passengers and crew intervened to stop him.

That happened on December 21, 2001, or 8,600 days ago. Consider that, on average, 2.34 million passengers depart from U.S. airports daily. I couldn't find the exact date when the TSA began requiring passengers to remove their shoes, but it was sometime in 2006. So, for a rough estimate, I'll assume the midpoint of that year, or June 1, 2006, or 6,977 days ago. So that means that roughly 16,326,180,000 -passengers - over 16 billion, or twice the entire human population of the planet -- have been asked to remove their shoes over a single, unsuccessful attempt!

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