Beleaguered Weather Service defends its forecasts as Texas officials point fingers over flood warnings
Source: CNN Climate
Updated Jul 5, 2025, 10:51 PM ET
PUBLISHED Jul 5, 2025, 8:54 PM ET
The forces that descended upon the Guadalupe River in Texas Hill Country on Thursday night were a worst-case scenario. Four months worth of rain fell in just hours as water-laden thunderstorms stalled in place, giving rise to a wall of water that surged down the river in the blackness of night, limiting the number of people who could get the warnings and move to higher ground.
The National Weather Service warned of life-threatening flooding along the river in a series of alerts in the early morning hours. But questions remain about how many people they reached, whether critical vacancies at the forecast offices could have affected warning dissemination, and if so-called warning fatigue had been growing among residents in a region described as one of the most dangerous in the country for flash flooding.
The National Weather Service has been hard hit by personnel cuts under the Trump administration, but that may not have significantly affected the forecasts and warnings for this historic and deadly flooding.
The two Texas NWS offices most closely involved in forecasting and warning about the flooding on the Guadalupe River Austin-San Antonio and San Angelo are missing some key staff members, but still issued a slew of watches and warnings about the flood danger. The question is whether the warnings reached who they needed to reach.
Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/05/climate/texas-flooding-forecast-response

cachukis
(3,337 posts)Marthe48
(21,386 posts)I am cynical about the storm warnings we get in my area. But having lived through 2 derechos so far, and living in the Ohio River Valley, I take precautions each time.
The people who are responsible for this disastrous tragedy are the same people who call climate change a hoax and encourage their followers to ignore the writing on the wall. It's like blaming sheep lining up for slaughter.
mdbl
(7,046 posts)Meaning, leave as a precaution, or better yet don't hang out by a river known for flooding during storms, or even make plans to during a season more prone to storms. It's definitely inconvenient - but safer.
ananda
(32,667 posts)I evacuated every single hurricane, no matter what.
If I were to get a flood warning, I'd get the hell
out of there fast.
I never even heard of warning fatigue.
cachukis
(3,337 posts)As a sailor, always with a weather eye, have had to make stay or go choices.
Had property in Key Largo during Andrew. Had Elena linger just offshore and could recite a litany of storms.
When necessary, we leave, early.
But to witness hurricane parties that went awry, towns blown away and people "sticking it out," I have learned humans become inured to adversity and take pride in showing determination and toughness.
The writing of what's to come is plainly evident in the details around us for so many things.
Those Texans who planned for a glorious weekend away over the Fourth, chose to go forward even though we have weather forecasters at our fingertips.
They certainly knew Harvey dropped 50" of rain as it lingered over Houston. They had to know that Western Carolina took a serious hit with Milton.
Weather has become more serious.
My sense is, we as a general population, have not taken the clues around us as seriously as we ought.
Leadership challenges rather than assuages.
I will spend the summer watching the National Hurricane Center updates.
Grins
(8,667 posts)Alexa lights up and you ask for the notification, the first you hear is, The national weather service has issued
What follows is warnings (plural) for thunderstorms, rain, high heat, freezing temps, snow, drought, high winds - you name it, and all overwhelming a big zero. And I can get those warnings several times, almost hourly, during an event.
Thats the fatigue.
ananda
(32,667 posts)than under-warned or not warned at all?
4catsmom
(663 posts)it's been raining down there for weeks and people just stopped paying attention
So, CNN thinks that firing over 600 employees in the NWS will not have "significantly affected the forecasts and warnings" in Texas.
CNN just can't help but cover for the Trump administration.
Then Kristi Noem is on television saying Trump wanted to upgrade the NWS. What a joke.
Prof. Toru Tanaka
(2,741 posts)BlueKota
(4,449 posts)That cutting so many of it's staff would result in multiple deaths in natural catastrophes. The answer: Anyone who isn't a card carrying member of the orange cult, that's who.
Funny how these so claimed right to lifers, think billionaire tax cuts, are more important than the lives of the less wealthy.
Rebl2
(16,752 posts)is trumps fault and Doge as well as Musk.
Period
lostnfound
(17,111 posts)Presumably the people making decisions in the Trump administration didnt know that either.
Shall we start a GoFundMe to pay for weather balloons and emergency coordinators?
This vacancy in the Austin-San Antonio office, along with other key roles, were the result of early retirement incentives offered by the Trump administration to shrink the size of the federal government, a NOAA official told CNN
Somewhere out there, i imagine theres a nice meteorologist / coordinator who feels horrible, but I hope he or she knows that this was the fault of 1) the man in the Oval Office, 2) the Heritage Foundation, Project 2025, and big money PACs who despise the idea of government For The People or the common good, and 3) the sociopaths and liars who thrive on power or dismiss the need for climate resilience and mitigation strategies.
groundloop
(13,162 posts)Democratic politicians need to be screaming about this on every news show in the country, otherwise tRump will be able to leverage this tragedy to privatize the weather service.
4catsmom
(663 posts)because he controls the weather, remember?
cstanleytech
(27,810 posts)Torchlight
(5,208 posts)Everything else is noise and finger-pointing. America's being defunded and this is one of the consequences.