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BumRushDaShow

(160,948 posts)
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 01:28 PM Jul 4

U.S. military's attempt to retain strategic land for training runs into Native Hawaiian opposition

Source: NBC News/AP

July 4, 2025, 4:38 AM EDT / Source: The Associated Press


HONOLULU — A high-altitude plateau on the Big Island is the only place in Hawaii where thousands of ground forces can practice firing live munitions. It's also a place many Native Hawaiians consider the spiritual heart of the island.

The U.S. military wants to keep training at this spot, called Pohakuloa, so it's ready to quickly send troops to Asia and the Pacific. Its importance to the U.S. is only growing as China becomes more assertive, particularly regarding Taiwan.

But the Army's lease for state lands beneath a key part of the training range expires in 2029. Native Hawaiians upset with the U.S. military's history of damaging Hawaiian lands with target practice and fuel leaks want the Army out.

"They have bombed and contaminated not just our land but our waters," said Healani Sonoda-Pale, a community organizer with the Hawaiian sovereignty group Ka Lahui Hawaii. "When does this end?"

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/us-militarys-attempt-retain-strategic-land-training-runs-native-hawaii-rcna216928

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U.S. military's attempt to retain strategic land for training runs into Native Hawaiian opposition (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jul 4 OP
No respect Bayard Jul 4 #1
Screwing over native communities is an American tradition JoseBalow Jul 4 #2
With the Navy dumping fuel into our aquifers at Red Hill, and then lying about it,people have mahina Jul 4 #3
I am totally on your side in this Hekate Jul 4 #5
Aloha Hekate mahina Jul 5 #6
We fired live naval artillery at the uninhabited island of Kahoolawe for decades. pecosbob Jul 4 #4
They bombed it so much that they literally broke the water table. mahina Jul 5 #7

Bayard

(27,185 posts)
1. No respect
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 02:00 PM
Jul 4

The military shows, "inadequate inventory of unexploded ordnance and insufficient inventory of ancient burials and associated artifacts," on the site. They say they'll do a land swap--like any old land will do. Bombs do a lot of damage to the environment, and water contamination from spilled fuel has included thousands of people getting sick.

I wouldn't want them on my land either. They don't own it, its leased from the state.

mahina

(20,082 posts)
3. With the Navy dumping fuel into our aquifers at Red Hill, and then lying about it,people have
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 02:36 PM
Jul 4

really and truly freaking had it.

A lot of leases of land to the military are coming up and people are in no mood to renew them.

Just so you folks know.

mahina

(20,082 posts)
6. Aloha Hekate
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 03:47 AM
Jul 5

Kai Kahele who was our Rep after he challenged Tulsiʻs seat and she quit- he took a group from his office to eat at a restauranr near Red Hill those days.

Shortly after the meal where he drank the water he got a terrific headache that lasted for days.

They lied to us and to the military families that live right at red Hill and drink that water and got really sick. Including people’s kids.

I do think that the military will lose a few properties here when their leases come up.

My Dad used to tell me that if Hawaii ever achieved independence some other big power would snap us up immediately.

Maybe we should just be grateful that Donald Trump hasn’t handed us over to Russia with a bow tied on us.

I so appreciate you Hekate.

pecosbob

(8,109 posts)
4. We fired live naval artillery at the uninhabited island of Kahoolawe for decades.
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 03:30 PM
Jul 4

We did the same on Pineros in Puerto Rico until the EPA made us quit.

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