Trump says he had 'never heard' Shylock as an anti-semitic term after using it at rally
Source: CNN Politics
Updated 10:07 AM EDT, Fri July 4, 2025
CNN President Donald Trump said early Friday that he wasnt aware that some people view the word Shylock as antisemitic after using the term during a rally to decry amoral money lenders. Ive never heard it that way. To me, Shylock is somebody thats a money lender at high rates, Trump told reporters after getting off Air Force One. Ive never heard it that way, you view it differently than me. Ive never heard that. Trump was arriving back in Washington after an event in Iowa marking the kick-off to nationwide celebrations marking the countrys 250th anniversary next year.
In his speech, he used the word when touting aspects of the major domestic policy bill that had been approved by Congress a few hours earlier. Think of that: no death tax, no estate tax, no going to the banks and borrowings from in some cases a fine banker. And in some cases, Shylocks and bad people, he said during his event in Des Moines. They took away a lot of, a lot of family. They destroyed a lot of families, but we did the opposite.
The name Shylock derives from the name of the antagonist in William Shakespeares The Merchant of Venice. Shylock, a Jew, was a ruthless moneylender in the play, and hes remembered for demanding a pound of flesh from the merchant Antonio if he failed to repay a loan.
The Anti-Defamation League condemned Trumps use of the word Friday morning. The term Shylock evokes a centuries-old antisemitic trope about Jews and greed that is extremely offensive and dangerous. President Trumps use of the term is very troubling and irresponsible, the organization wrote in a statement on X. It underscores how lies and conspiracies about Jews remain deeply entrenched in our country. Words from our leaders matter and we expect more from the President of the United States.
Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/04/politics/trump-iowa-rally-antisemitic-term

Behind the Aegis
(55,551 posts)I hear that excuse a lot!
unblock
(55,443 posts)tanyev
(47,281 posts)
Montauk6
(9,175 posts)At THIS point, he can use that word and CNN and the NY Times will just say, "President Donald J. Trump made controversial remarks today..."
Faux Noose and the Flying Monkey Reich Wing Noise Machine will say, "The President made remarks triggering certain groups though they have themselves used the term more often."
David Brooks will say, "What the President said was outright disgusting, and regrettably, this is a result of the tone and rhetoric we're now seeing far too often out of Washington."
2MuchNoise
(332 posts)He doesn't know Kamala Harris is Black, he doesn't know there are Medicaid cuts in his flabby bill, he doesn't know, he doesn't know, he doesn't know, he doesn't know, he doesn't know, he doesn't know, he doesn't know, he doesn't know, he doesn't know, he doesn't know, he doesn't know, he doesn't know, he doesn't know, he doesn't know, he doesn't know, he doesn't know, he doesn't know, he doesn't know, he doesn't know, he doesn't know, he doesn't know, he doesn't know...
chowder66
(11,016 posts)Prof. Toru Tanaka
(2,740 posts)The man who knows everything also knows nothing!
Bengus81
(9,079 posts)On and on and on with the fucking BS.....
sinkingfeeling
(56,001 posts)RockRaven
(17,638 posts)mpcamb
(3,131 posts)Submariner
(13,029 posts)Last edited Fri Jul 4, 2025, 01:13 PM - Edit history (1)
commented yet about the symbolism of the purposely anti-semitic 88-foot heil hitler flag poles installed on the White House lawn to thrill his base, tiki-torch sissies, proud punks, J6 pardoned cop beaters, and likely most of the other 77 million racist scum that voted for that racist asshole?
I sue hope so, because Schumer has either gone silent, or is just too lazy to do the job anymore.
yardwork
(67,343 posts)Submariner
(13,029 posts)yardwork
(67,343 posts)Behind the Aegis
(55,551 posts)"Jews get blamed for "complaining" about antisemitism and destroying universities." post #9
The first part of that sentence is one possible reason why the ADL wouldn't respond to something like that, especially without any proof. It would be one more way for people, not all on the right as witnessed here, to claim Jews are "crying wolf". Of course, anytime someone says something anti-Semitic, even if a right-wing nut job, there are those who weave and dodge and concern themselves MORE with why aren't these or those Jews condemning it.
It has become more and more obvious to me and several others, including true allies, like yourself, that anti-Semitism isn't the real problem, calling it out is!
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Hekate
(98,680 posts)Submariner
(13,029 posts)of a senator who seems to show up once a week or so, and barely rebuts the daily litany of lies coming out of the trump rage machine. No daily rapid response team to rebut the lies, so the seemingly laid back attitude of Schumer's office is bothering the crap out of me.
Hekate
(98,680 posts)
but thats doubtless because they are my Senators and I am attuned to them.
Ritabert
(1,417 posts)MLWR
(431 posts)but that he never even heard of it and has only a vague notion of who Wm Shakespeare was.
Jack Valentino
(2,881 posts)'maybe the one with the pointy ears'
yardwork
(67,343 posts)It just does.
Ritabert
(1,417 posts)yardwork
(67,343 posts)Trump is highly informed about bigoted jabs. They all are. Stupid ignorant smirking jeering fools but they know all the "clever" cracks about anybody remotely different from them.
RockRaven
(17,638 posts)No chance in hell he could sit through 2 hours of Shakespearean dialogue, for one.
Also, his excuse/explanation reveals that fact. The play has nothing to do with interest rates.
Ritabert
(1,417 posts)Ocelot II
(126,300 posts)but the meaning behind the use of the name Shylock is so well-known that it's hard to believe he didn't know that character has long been the anti-semitic image of the greedy Jewish money-lender. Of course he knows; he just doesn't care.
Ritabert
(1,417 posts)...given his buddy Netanyahu wouldn't be too happy with him.
Hekate
(98,680 posts)Ritabert
(1,417 posts)Last edited Fri Jul 4, 2025, 08:08 PM - Edit history (1)
Hekate
(98,680 posts)Jack Valentino
(2,881 posts)maybe if I had ever hung around with some serious antisemitics I would have heard it, but I didn't and I didn't.
Now, I guess I am less "ill-informed"...
Hekate
(98,680 posts)It shows up in the damndest places. I was helping out an old friend with her estate sale, and some of the helpers were women I hadnt met before. One said that sometimes buyers try to Jew you down.
She wasnt saying that prospective buyers were of the Jewish faith. She was riffing on a commonly-held antisemitic trope that anyone looking for a bargain or wanting to dicker over a price was acting like Jews, who everybody knows are grasping and ungenerous in their dealings with others. And pushy, too.
Thats all.
Jack Valentino
(2,881 posts)although Trump claimed he didn't know what it meant,
he then went on to perfectly describe what it apparently means,
didn't he...
eppur_se_muova
(39,545 posts)How -- HOW -- did previous Presidents ever manage to deal with all these oddities and idiosyncrasies in the English language ?
Actually, I'm sure their speeches are full of stuff like this, it's just that nobody ever looks for them the same way they're always picking on Turnip.
LetMyPeopleVote
(166,964 posts)Paladin
(31,123 posts)Joinfortmill
(18,665 posts)VMA131Marine
(5,060 posts)Im sure hes never read Shakespeare much less be able to understand it even if he did. He probably read the Cliffs Notes.
AloeVera
(3,450 posts)It's about either being so ignorant as to not recognize an anti-semitic trope or knowing about it and using it nonetheless for nefarious reasons, like dog whistling to the anti-semites in his base. Either way it's bad for a president but the second is worse and I think that's what he's doing. Of course he is that stupid that the first option is plausible too.
Retrograde
(11,218 posts)but that was on the TV show, "The Sopranos", in which one Italian-American character who was a loan shark was called a lady Shylock. But the characters on this show tended to be poorly educated, ignorant, very insular and usually couldn't look past the money aspect: for most people the term has anti-Semitic connotations.
Behind the Aegis
(55,551 posts)"He Jewed me on the price." or "He will Jew you down." don't mean the "he" is a Jew, but rather, "acts" like a Jew obsessed with money and getting a deal at any cost (a pound of flesh) .
Wiz Imp
(6,277 posts)JoseBalow
(8,024 posts)His shtick is old and tired, and everyone is on to it.
CTyankee
(66,658 posts)They know anti-semitic tropes; they've been using them for ages. With a wink and a nod....
Grokenstein
(6,082 posts)Bluestocking
(197 posts)Will give him a pass on this. If a Dem had said that the right media would be calling for impeachment.
Hekate
(98,680 posts)
like restoration of the Biblical boundaries of Israel. The true goal is not of this world, but of the world-to-come. The goal is to fulfill the conditions of the prophecies that drive them, so that the Messiah will come (or come again) . They each believe God speaks to only them, so a bit of discomfort is not the issue. The Evangelicals have made it plain that any unconverted Jew will burn in Hell for eternity but are happy to work toward a common goal in the meanwhile. The Orthodox know that the Evangelicals are totally wrong, but they also know that they have great numbers and political power in the US.
tanyev
(47,281 posts)😒
MrsMatt
(1,666 posts)Martin68
(26,227 posts)the name "Shylock." I also suspect he is anti-semitic.
Wiz Imp
(6,277 posts)SCantiGOP
(14,557 posts)The problem the public has with evaluating trump is that the corruption is so staggering that it obscures just how ignorant he is.
I would love to see someone ask Trump if he had ever read, or was familiar with, The Merchant of Venice.
Beartracks
(14,019 posts)Given his social circles, he likely heard the word used in this manner during his formative years, but couldn't be bothered to put 2 and 2 together about where it came from.
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Wiz Imp
(6,277 posts)twodogsbarking
(14,621 posts)Wiz Imp
(6,277 posts)Sneederbunk
(16,336 posts)Bluejeans
(122 posts)When I was growing up in New Jersey in the 1960s and early 1970s the terms "Shylock" and "Shy" referred to Mafia loan sharks and their extortionate interest rates (aka "the vig" ; not Jewish people.
I never heard those terms were antisemitic slurs until I read the news stories this morning.
Henry203
(661 posts)And everyone knew it was a slur.
Wiz Imp
(6,277 posts)Jrose
(1,476 posts)in support of DJT's leaked slur.
DJT never did criticize Eloon for throwing Nazi salutes during his inaugural celebrations.
Solly Mack
(95,376 posts)Jack Valentino
(2,881 posts)and I very much doubt that Trump has, either---
so I am very curious where he heard the word used--- !
Maybe from his staff, or his father
ananda
(32,659 posts)it's also true that it could've been inserted in the speech
without Trump's knowledge.