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BumRushDaShow

(157,393 posts)
Wed Jun 25, 2025, 06:12 AM Jun 25

CDC vaccine report cites study that does not exist, says scientist listed as author

Source: The Guardian

Tue 24 Jun 2025 19.44 EDT
Last modified on Tue 24 Jun 2025 19.54 EDT


A review on the use of the preservative thimerosal in vaccines slated to be presented on Thursday to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s (CDC) outside vaccine committee cites a study that does not exist, the scientist listed as the study’s author said.

The report, called Thimerosal as a Vaccine Preservative published on the CDC website on Tuesday, is to be presented by Lyn Redwood, a former leader of the anti-vaccine group Children’s Health Defense.

It makes reference to a study called Low-level neonatal thimerosal exposure: Long-term consequences in the brain, published in the journal Neurotoxicology in 2008, and co-authored by UC Davis professor emeritus Robert Berman. But, according to Berman, “it’s not making reference to a study I published or carried out”.

Berman said he co-authored a similarly named study in a different journal – Toxicological Sciences – that came to different conclusions than those suggested by Redwood. “We did not examine the effects of thimerosal in microglia … I do not endorse this misrepresentation of the research,” he said. Reuters is the first to report on the inaccurate citation from Redwood’s planned presentation.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/24/cdc-vaccine-presentation-autism

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CDC vaccine report cites study that does not exist, says scientist listed as author (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jun 25 OP
Using a journal article mgardener Jun 25 #1
Don't the anti vaxxers have a history of making things up mwmisses4289 Jun 25 #2
Most of their misinformation came from Qanon mdbl Jun 25 #5
Time to call it what it is: 70sEraVet Jun 25 #3
What lying liars. Thank you, The Guardian. Joinfortmill Jun 25 #4
Sounds like another AI-generated error. Trump's people are incompetent and unwilling/unable to highplainsdem Jun 25 #6
This one sounds intentional. yardwork Jun 25 #23
Again? Prairie Gates Jun 25 #7
They lie about everything, pretty much all the time PatSeg Jun 25 #8
Oh yeah, so prove it. Show me once they didn't lie. twodogsbarking Jun 25 #10
Ha, ha, ha! PatSeg Jun 25 #11
GOP has become MSU Attilatheblond Jun 25 #13
They always were a little deceitful, PatSeg Jun 25 #14
They've always been the Party of Magical Thinking. Becoming the Party of Completely Made-Up Shit is their natural Karasu Jun 25 #22
There could be a study and you think there is. There could be a study but you didn't think there was. twodogsbarking Jun 25 #9
typical republican governing. republianmushroom Jun 25 #12
Sue for defamation IbogaProject Jun 25 #15
MAGAts are anti-science and total liars. Bad mix. Martin68 Jun 25 #16
If you gotta lie, if you gotta hide, you're on the wrong side. C Moon Jun 25 #17
republicons just keep on lying to Americans BoRaGard Jun 25 #18
They HAVE to lie. louis-t Jun 25 #19
"I do not endorse this misrepresentation of the research" Ruby the Liberal Jun 25 #20
Fake Science Kid Berwyn Jun 25 #21
Rewriting fact and creating fiction...never mind the consequences! Canada Kid Jun 25 #24
MAGAts are nothing without their lies. Dark n Stormy Knight Jun 25 #25
Good to see that the head of the fucking Department of Health is relying on artificial intelligence to... LudwigPastorius Jun 25 #26
Lyn Redwood,--is a dangerous person. PERIOD!!! riversedge Jun 26 #27

mgardener

(2,115 posts)
1. Using a journal article
Wed Jun 25, 2025, 07:28 AM
Jun 25

That is 18 years old is very questionable, using an article that one of the authors says he did not participate in is malpractice.

mwmisses4289

(1,663 posts)
2. Don't the anti vaxxers have a history of making things up
Wed Jun 25, 2025, 07:43 AM
Jun 25

and citing studies that don't exist or misinterpreting existing studies?

70sEraVet

(4,703 posts)
3. Time to call it what it is:
Wed Jun 25, 2025, 07:45 AM
Jun 25

Putting a white lab coat on 'Making-Shit-Up-As-You-Go-Along' does not make it Science.

highplainsdem

(57,600 posts)
6. Sounds like another AI-generated error. Trump's people are incompetent and unwilling/unable to
Wed Jun 25, 2025, 08:40 AM
Jun 25

do the work themselves.

PatSeg

(50,679 posts)
8. They lie about everything, pretty much all the time
Wed Jun 25, 2025, 09:40 AM
Jun 25

It feels like we're seeing the end of truth. Now everything is just 'make it up as you go along'.

PatSeg

(50,679 posts)
11. Ha, ha, ha!
Wed Jun 25, 2025, 11:03 AM
Jun 25

If they do tell the truth it is usually accidental. I'm not sure they know the difference anymore.

PatSeg

(50,679 posts)
14. They always were a little deceitful,
Wed Jun 25, 2025, 11:32 AM
Jun 25

but they learned from Trump that they could say anything, no matter how ridiculous, and there would be no repercussions. Life goes on.

Of course, if they do get accused of lying, they just deflect and claim that Democrats are the liars.

Karasu

(1,715 posts)
22. They've always been the Party of Magical Thinking. Becoming the Party of Completely Made-Up Shit is their natural
Wed Jun 25, 2025, 03:44 PM
Jun 25

final evolution.

twodogsbarking

(14,667 posts)
9. There could be a study and you think there is. There could be a study but you didn't think there was.
Wed Jun 25, 2025, 10:06 AM
Jun 25

There was no study but you thought there was. There was no study and you didn't think so.
Paraphrasing Epictetus. I think it was the last one.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,516 posts)
20. "I do not endorse this misrepresentation of the research"
Wed Jun 25, 2025, 01:28 PM
Jun 25

Looking forward to the day where comments like this (and 'strongly worded letters') go the way of the rotary phone.

Not looking for the crassification of society, but repeated "they are bald-faced lying" responses are long overdue.

 

Canada Kid

(257 posts)
24. Rewriting fact and creating fiction...never mind the consequences!
Wed Jun 25, 2025, 03:52 PM
Jun 25

Just make shit up as you go along! This is the NEW American way!

Dark n Stormy Knight

(10,414 posts)
25. MAGAts are nothing without their lies.
Wed Jun 25, 2025, 05:01 PM
Jun 25

Facts are an existential threat to the entire Republican party, all of whom seem to have become MAGAts.

LudwigPastorius

(13,055 posts)
26. Good to see that the head of the fucking Department of Health is relying on artificial intelligence to...
Wed Jun 25, 2025, 10:55 PM
Jun 25

put together "evidence" to support his brainworm's beliefs.

We are all going to die in an epidemic, aren't we?

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