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BumRushDaShow

(157,392 posts)
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 07:51 PM Jun 24

'Severely damages the presidency': Trump lawyer urges appeals court to 'reverse' E. Jean Carroll verdict

Source: Law & Crime

Jun 24th, 2025, 11:57 am


After failed attempts on at least two fronts to complicate or delay oral arguments, President Donald Trump's lawyers returned to federal court on Tuesday to once again appeal the $83 million defamation judgment that longtime advice columnist E. Jean Carroll won at the start of 2024.

Presiding for the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals were Senior U.S. Circuit Judge Denny Chin, a Barack Obama appointee, and U.S. Circuit Judges Sarah Merriam and Maria Araújo Kahn, both Joe Biden appointees.

Following an en banc rehearing denial in Trump's appeal of a $5 million civil jury verdict that found him liable for sexually abusing and defaming Carroll, and following the 2nd Circuit panel's refusal to substitute the DOJ for Trump as defendant-appellant in the defamation case we now discuss, the panel also declined the president's request to push back scheduled oral arguments.

That denial swiftly brought forth the Tuesday morning proceedings, during which Trump attorney Justin Smith began by calling the Carroll verdict a "miscarriage of justice" and one that "severely damages the presidency."

Read more: https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/trump-appeal-of-e-jean-carroll-verdict-returns-to-court-for-oral-argument/



Full headline: 'Severely damages the presidency': Trump lawyer urges appeals court to 'reverse' E. Jean Carroll verdict based on a factor that SCOTUS immunity decision didn't address
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'Severely damages the presidency': Trump lawyer urges appeals court to 'reverse' E. Jean Carroll verdict (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jun 24 OP
So sexually abusing a woman, lying about said abuse, and defaming that same woman does jls4561 Jun 24 #1
TSF severely damaged himself..this is a civil matter and he needs to settle his case Deuxcents Jun 24 #2
You know what seriously damages the Presidency? Buddyzbuddy Jun 24 #3
Are taxpayers paying for this asshole attorney? mdbl Jun 24 #4
Trump's defense team: For all those sensitive white men who expect privileged responses, this is Baitball Blogger Jun 24 #5
Why is he allowed to appeal so much? Is it just because he has money? travelingthrulife Jun 24 #6
"Due process" means he can BumRushDaShow Jun 25 #10
So he can always win because he can find a judge to call it for him eventually. travelingthrulife Jun 25 #19
That's why there has been a long-time effort BumRushDaShow Jun 25 #20
Totally bogus defense. Martin68 Jun 24 #7
Yeah Sure Ya Betcha Faux pas Jun 24 #8
A Decision that "severely damages the presidency." Too late!!! Grins Jun 25 #9
If damaging the presidency liberalgunwilltravel Jun 25 #11
Trump has severely damaged the "presidency" by oasis Jun 25 #12
Severely damages the presidency? Maybe the character who is now president should have kept his hands to himself. Vinca Jun 25 #13
So TACO Don does not like the moniker...Adjudicated Sexual Assaulter/Rapist?? ProudMNDemocrat Jun 25 #14
Ms. Carroll's lawyers' reply (or what they should reply, anyway...) jmowreader Jun 25 #15
Ooooh, if only I could rec this 99 times ! nt eppur_se_muova Jun 25 #18
Accuse me, but having that vuglar man in the WH damages the presidency. sinkingfeeling Jun 25 #16
So what about the Epstein files? twodogsbarking Jun 25 #17
I hope the judge tells Dump's lawyers to go to hell for protecting a sexual predator sakabatou Jun 25 #21

jls4561

(2,524 posts)
1. So sexually abusing a woman, lying about said abuse, and defaming that same woman does
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 07:56 PM
Jun 24
not bring shame upon the presidency.

Go get him, E Jean!

Buddyzbuddy

(1,243 posts)
3. You know what seriously damages the Presidency?
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 08:35 PM
Jun 24

A lying, cheating, assaulter of women with 34 felonies.

mdbl

(7,046 posts)
4. Are taxpayers paying for this asshole attorney?
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 08:42 PM
Jun 24

Another colossal waste of money. Dump is trying to whitewash all of his sins, as if we'll all forget them.

Baitball Blogger

(50,607 posts)
5. Trump's defense team: For all those sensitive white men who expect privileged responses, this is
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 09:12 PM
Jun 24

an affront to their entitlement!

travelingthrulife

(2,946 posts)
6. Why is he allowed to appeal so much? Is it just because he has money?
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 09:24 PM
Jun 24

Or is it because he is a rapist and doesn't understand that "no" means "no"

BumRushDaShow

(157,392 posts)
10. "Due process" means he can
Wed Jun 25, 2025, 03:47 AM
Jun 25

Having the money to do that is what differentiates average Americans, who can't afford to exhaust all of their options, from the wealthy.

"Best due process that money can buy".

travelingthrulife

(2,946 posts)
19. So he can always win because he can find a judge to call it for him eventually.
Wed Jun 25, 2025, 09:57 AM
Jun 25

This makes our legal system ultimately powerless against the oligarchy. Oh well, glad I'm old. Thanks.

BumRushDaShow

(157,392 posts)
20. That's why there has been a long-time effort
Wed Jun 25, 2025, 10:17 AM
Jun 25

at "criminal justice reform" because of the inherent unfairness of the system.

Some tiny steps have been enacted in some municipalities like getting rid of "cash bail", where the poorest of the accused can barely or never be able to pay such, and thus end up locked up awaiting a trial (that may take years to happen).

Grins

(8,667 posts)
9. A Decision that "severely damages the presidency." Too late!!!
Wed Jun 25, 2025, 12:41 AM
Jun 25

The ignorant bag of eels has already passed you by!

11. If damaging the presidency
Wed Jun 25, 2025, 05:43 AM
Jun 25

Is grounds for removal of anything, it’s Trump who is doing the greatest damage to the presidency and should be removed.

Vinca

(52,461 posts)
13. Severely damages the presidency? Maybe the character who is now president should have kept his hands to himself.
Wed Jun 25, 2025, 07:10 AM
Jun 25

ProudMNDemocrat

(19,980 posts)
14. So TACO Don does not like the moniker...Adjudicated Sexual Assaulter/Rapist??
Wed Jun 25, 2025, 07:31 AM
Jun 25

EAT SHIT, Donnie Boy! YOU earned it all on your own!

A Court of Law found you liable in Civil Court. Liable is the same as GUILTY if it were Criminal Court.

And while we are on the subject...You are a FRAUD and a CRIMINAL as found in a New York City/State Court of Law!!

jmowreader

(52,562 posts)
15. Ms. Carroll's lawyers' reply (or what they should reply, anyway...)
Wed Jun 25, 2025, 07:35 AM
Jun 25

May it please the Court:

Counsel for the Defendant in the instant case has requested the judgment against the defendant be overturned as it "severely damages the presidency."

Counsel for the Plaintiff notes that the Defendant has "severely damaged" the presidency of his own volition so many times that anything this judgment might do to the presidency won't even be noticeable.

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