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BumRushDaShow

(160,871 posts)
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 07:51 PM Jun 2025

'Severely damages the presidency': Trump lawyer urges appeals court to 'reverse' E. Jean Carroll verdict

Source: Law & Crime

Jun 24th, 2025, 11:57 am


After failed attempts on at least two fronts to complicate or delay oral arguments, President Donald Trump's lawyers returned to federal court on Tuesday to once again appeal the $83 million defamation judgment that longtime advice columnist E. Jean Carroll won at the start of 2024.

Presiding for the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals were Senior U.S. Circuit Judge Denny Chin, a Barack Obama appointee, and U.S. Circuit Judges Sarah Merriam and Maria Araújo Kahn, both Joe Biden appointees.

Following an en banc rehearing denial in Trump's appeal of a $5 million civil jury verdict that found him liable for sexually abusing and defaming Carroll, and following the 2nd Circuit panel's refusal to substitute the DOJ for Trump as defendant-appellant in the defamation case we now discuss, the panel also declined the president's request to push back scheduled oral arguments.

That denial swiftly brought forth the Tuesday morning proceedings, during which Trump attorney Justin Smith began by calling the Carroll verdict a "miscarriage of justice" and one that "severely damages the presidency."

Read more: https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/trump-appeal-of-e-jean-carroll-verdict-returns-to-court-for-oral-argument/



Full headline: 'Severely damages the presidency': Trump lawyer urges appeals court to 'reverse' E. Jean Carroll verdict based on a factor that SCOTUS immunity decision didn't address
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'Severely damages the presidency': Trump lawyer urges appeals court to 'reverse' E. Jean Carroll verdict (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jun 2025 OP
So sexually abusing a woman, lying about said abuse, and defaming that same woman does jls4561 Jun 2025 #1
TSF severely damaged himself..this is a civil matter and he needs to settle his case Deuxcents Jun 2025 #2
You know what seriously damages the Presidency? Buddyzbuddy Jun 2025 #3
Are taxpayers paying for this asshole attorney? mdbl Jun 2025 #4
Trump's defense team: For all those sensitive white men who expect privileged responses, this is Baitball Blogger Jun 2025 #5
Why is he allowed to appeal so much? Is it just because he has money? travelingthrulife Jun 2025 #6
"Due process" means he can BumRushDaShow Jun 2025 #10
So he can always win because he can find a judge to call it for him eventually. travelingthrulife Jun 2025 #19
That's why there has been a long-time effort BumRushDaShow Jun 2025 #20
Totally bogus defense. Martin68 Jun 2025 #7
Yeah Sure Ya Betcha Faux pas Jun 2025 #8
A Decision that "severely damages the presidency." Too late!!! Grins Jun 2025 #9
If damaging the presidency liberalgunwilltravel Jun 2025 #11
Trump has severely damaged the "presidency" by oasis Jun 2025 #12
Severely damages the presidency? Maybe the character who is now president should have kept his hands to himself. Vinca Jun 2025 #13
So TACO Don does not like the moniker...Adjudicated Sexual Assaulter/Rapist?? ProudMNDemocrat Jun 2025 #14
Ms. Carroll's lawyers' reply (or what they should reply, anyway...) jmowreader Jun 2025 #15
Ooooh, if only I could rec this 99 times ! nt eppur_se_muova Jun 2025 #18
Accuse me, but having that vuglar man in the WH damages the presidency. sinkingfeeling Jun 2025 #16
So what about the Epstein files? twodogsbarking Jun 2025 #17
I hope the judge tells Dump's lawyers to go to hell for protecting a sexual predator sakabatou Jun 2025 #21

jls4561

(2,731 posts)
1. So sexually abusing a woman, lying about said abuse, and defaming that same woman does
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 07:56 PM
Jun 2025
not bring shame upon the presidency.

Go get him, E Jean!

Buddyzbuddy

(1,574 posts)
3. You know what seriously damages the Presidency?
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 08:35 PM
Jun 2025

A lying, cheating, assaulter of women with 34 felonies.

mdbl

(7,449 posts)
4. Are taxpayers paying for this asshole attorney?
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 08:42 PM
Jun 2025

Another colossal waste of money. Dump is trying to whitewash all of his sins, as if we'll all forget them.

Baitball Blogger

(50,998 posts)
5. Trump's defense team: For all those sensitive white men who expect privileged responses, this is
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 09:12 PM
Jun 2025

an affront to their entitlement!

travelingthrulife

(3,360 posts)
6. Why is he allowed to appeal so much? Is it just because he has money?
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 09:24 PM
Jun 2025

Or is it because he is a rapist and doesn't understand that "no" means "no"

BumRushDaShow

(160,871 posts)
10. "Due process" means he can
Wed Jun 25, 2025, 03:47 AM
Jun 2025

Having the money to do that is what differentiates average Americans, who can't afford to exhaust all of their options, from the wealthy.

"Best due process that money can buy".

travelingthrulife

(3,360 posts)
19. So he can always win because he can find a judge to call it for him eventually.
Wed Jun 25, 2025, 09:57 AM
Jun 2025

This makes our legal system ultimately powerless against the oligarchy. Oh well, glad I'm old. Thanks.

BumRushDaShow

(160,871 posts)
20. That's why there has been a long-time effort
Wed Jun 25, 2025, 10:17 AM
Jun 2025

at "criminal justice reform" because of the inherent unfairness of the system.

Some tiny steps have been enacted in some municipalities like getting rid of "cash bail", where the poorest of the accused can barely or never be able to pay such, and thus end up locked up awaiting a trial (that may take years to happen).

Grins

(8,901 posts)
9. A Decision that "severely damages the presidency." Too late!!!
Wed Jun 25, 2025, 12:41 AM
Jun 2025

The ignorant bag of eels has already passed you by!

11. If damaging the presidency
Wed Jun 25, 2025, 05:43 AM
Jun 2025

Is grounds for removal of anything, it’s Trump who is doing the greatest damage to the presidency and should be removed.

Vinca

(52,740 posts)
13. Severely damages the presidency? Maybe the character who is now president should have kept his hands to himself.
Wed Jun 25, 2025, 07:10 AM
Jun 2025

ProudMNDemocrat

(20,264 posts)
14. So TACO Don does not like the moniker...Adjudicated Sexual Assaulter/Rapist??
Wed Jun 25, 2025, 07:31 AM
Jun 2025

EAT SHIT, Donnie Boy! YOU earned it all on your own!

A Court of Law found you liable in Civil Court. Liable is the same as GUILTY if it were Criminal Court.

And while we are on the subject...You are a FRAUD and a CRIMINAL as found in a New York City/State Court of Law!!

jmowreader

(52,682 posts)
15. Ms. Carroll's lawyers' reply (or what they should reply, anyway...)
Wed Jun 25, 2025, 07:35 AM
Jun 2025

May it please the Court:

Counsel for the Defendant in the instant case has requested the judgment against the defendant be overturned as it "severely damages the presidency."

Counsel for the Plaintiff notes that the Defendant has "severely damaged" the presidency of his own volition so many times that anything this judgment might do to the presidency won't even be noticeable.

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