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BumRushDaShow

(160,676 posts)
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 07:36 AM Jun 2025

Kennedy Center president rages at 'Hamilton' stars 'cosplaying as victims'

Source: Raw Story

June 23, 2025 9:01PM ET


Stars of the Broadway musical "Hamilton" drew the ire of Kennedy Center President Richard Grenell on Monday after announcing a boycott. Lin-Manuel Miranda, who wrote and stars in the musical, and producer Jefferey Seller have said they will not perform the 2026 run of their Pulitzer Prize-winning drama at the Kennedy Center. Multiple other artists are boycotting the Kennedy Center as a protest against President Donald Trump's policies.

Grenell, who served as acting director of national intelligence during Trump's first term, said in a lengthy statement posted on X that the boycotting stars are "cosplay[ing] as victims of intolerance." "I cannot begin to understand what business it is of Mr. Seller or Mr. Miranda how audience members vote or how it could possibly be relevant to the sacred relationship between performers and ticket holders, but they've made it clear that they won't perform for audiences that might contain Americans who disagree with them on matters irrelevant to the arts," Grenell wrote.

The boycott of the Kennedy Center has brewed for several months. After taking office, Trump dismissed all of the Kennedy Center board members and replaced them with loyalists. In turn, performers have boycotted Trump's attendance at Kennedy Center events, and attendees have booed and jeered at Trump when he was introduced at the Kennedy Center.

Democratic senators have also planned to host a Pride concert at the Kennedy Center in protest of Trump's anti-LGBTQ policies. To Grenell, Miranda and Seller's decision to not perform at the Kennedy Center seemed to be a step too far.

Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/msn/kennedy-center-2672420243/



REFERENCE - https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143484623
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Kennedy Center president rages at 'Hamilton' stars 'cosplaying as victims' (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jun 2025 OP
The performers are not your slaves, Grenell. yardwork Jun 2025 #1
Weird that Grenell would want something as woke as Hamilton to play at the Trumpified Kennedy Center. tanyev Jun 2025 #2
Yeah this wouldn't go well with that crowd BumRushDaShow Jun 2025 #5
Grenell, Just line up The Producers, and Cabaret. nt delisen Jun 2025 #20
The audience can stand up and unironically sing along with Tomorrow Belongs To Me. tanyev Jun 2025 #23
And The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas ananda Jun 2025 #35
Or commission a Producers Spin-off .... SomewhereInTheMiddle Jun 2025 #57
Grenell/Trump et al will commission a musical version of "The Birth of a Nation"... hlthe2b Jun 2025 #30
"There's just a few parts we want you to rewrite, OK?" MyOwnPeace Jun 2025 #36
Ah, but you see drmeow Jun 2025 #52
Shove that guilt trip up with the other shit. twodogsbarking Jun 2025 #3
christo-fascist Nazi swine wolfie001 Jun 2025 #4
So he's closeted? SunSeeker Jun 2025 #12
No, he's out. TommyT139 Jun 2025 #16
He's wealthy so he doesn't have to deal with the average american violator of human rights wolfie001 Jun 2025 #54
He looks like the reincarnation of that Nazi in the picture. kimbutgar Jun 2025 #32
Yes! The first Nazi I thought of when I saw his mug wolfie001 Jun 2025 #53
Grenell knows damn well that people boycotting don't care how their audience members vote Prairie Gates Jun 2025 #6
Grenell should have stopped at, "I cannot begin to understand " eShirl Jun 2025 #7
The GOP motto ? Or should it be "I don't care enough to try to understand" ? nt eppur_se_muova Jun 2025 #27
" the sacred relationship between performers and ticket holders"... Do you mean money, Dick, mpcamb Jun 2025 #8
"Immigrants!" Staph Jun 2025 #9
Fuck off, Grenell. (nt) Paladin Jun 2025 #10
Grenell is clueless William Seger Jun 2025 #11
Hey, rick, exactly WHAT matters are "irrelevant to the Arts", and why? niyad Jun 2025 #17
He knows what he's saying Hieronymus Phact Jun 2025 #25
You got THAT right! MyOwnPeace Jun 2025 #38
It is you who's "cosplaying," Grenell. nt SunSeeker Jun 2025 #13
May I suggest a puppet show instead. C_U_L8R Jun 2025 #14
Replace with Ted Nugent concert? Gimpyknee Jun 2025 #15
Featuring BumRushDaShow Jun 2025 #18
He only got that job because he's a MAGA. Now he doesn't like partisan politics? JohnnyRingo Jun 2025 #19
"matters irrelevant to the arts" Sparkly Jun 2025 #21
He's just doing his job, keeping Donnie two scoops in every story. mn9driver Jun 2025 #22
Whiner. And when did MAGA ever accept Americans that disagreed with them? nt Hotler Jun 2025 #24
How do you explain morals to someone who has none. twodogsbarking Jun 2025 #26
The cast is right Ritabert Jun 2025 #28
"I cannot begin to understand... spudspud Jun 2025 #29
"...on matters irrelevant to the arts." yardwork Jun 2025 #42
Isn't he the same guy who's going to run for governor of California ? kimbutgar Jun 2025 #31
Center President Grenell, you have a lot to live and learn. republianmushroom Jun 2025 #33
"Cosplaying as victims"? JHB Jun 2025 #34
Theater is, by definition, cosplaying. That is what actors do. Bluetus Jun 2025 #40
Did anyone else find the word "sacred" jarring? BobTheSubgenius Jun 2025 #37
Anything MAGA does is sacred. To them. yardwork Jun 2025 #41
this one did. AllaN01Bear Jun 2025 #46
Yes. Trump once said "our sacred elections..." And I'm all WTF? Grins Jun 2025 #48
It's not about the performers not liking the voting record of the audience. choie Jun 2025 #39
Dude clearly doesn't know WTF cosplay is. Maybe Kristi Noem could show him a thing or two. Karasu Jun 2025 #43
More power to them... ultralite001 Jun 2025 #44
Blah Blah Blah Fascist Fuck Grenell.. sTFU. Cha Jun 2025 #45
" the sacred relationship between performers and ticket holders?" Grins Jun 2025 #47
Strange... Montauk6 Jun 2025 #49
Good VanceFan Jun 2025 #50
Kennedy Center Ladythatvotesblue Jun 2025 #51
The Kennedy Center is now a sick joke taken over by a heathenistic moron with no artistic inclinations. mdbl Jun 2025 #55
Good. Resist! Joinfortmill Jun 2025 #56

yardwork

(68,135 posts)
1. The performers are not your slaves, Grenell.
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 07:44 AM
Jun 2025

They're not obligated to perform in your venue.

America, land of the free, remember?

tanyev

(47,879 posts)
2. Weird that Grenell would want something as woke as Hamilton to play at the Trumpified Kennedy Center.
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 07:47 AM
Jun 2025

Founding Fathers rapping! Women playing soldiers! Contributions of immigrants celebrated! Women playing a critical role in the founding of the nation!

I can just see Grenell trying to book them and then demanding, "There's just a few parts we want you to rewrite, OK?"

57. Or commission a Producers Spin-off ....
Wed Jun 25, 2025, 02:13 AM
Jun 2025

Springtime for Hitler - The true story of an unappreciated genius!

It would really draw in the MAGA crowds.

MyOwnPeace

(17,383 posts)
36. "There's just a few parts we want you to rewrite, OK?"
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 12:43 PM
Jun 2025

INDEED!!!!!!

They'd probably demand a walk-on solo spot for Lee Greenwood too!

drmeow

(5,774 posts)
52. Ah, but you see
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 06:34 PM
Jun 2025

Hamilton was wildly successful and made lots of money - remember money lightens skin, removes accents, and forgives any past immigration transgressions.

Just in case it's needed

wolfie001

(6,213 posts)
4. christo-fascist Nazi swine
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 07:59 AM
Jun 2025

This clown is "judging" artistic merit and accomplishment. He would have been quite comfortable in 1934 Germany. Excuse me while I go and vomit.



Just some background on this spineless, feckless backstabber of all things involving Gay and Transgender rights:

*During the 2016 Republican primaries, Grenell warned his Twitter followers about Donald Trump, describing him as "unserious", "reckless", and "dangerous". Grenell deleted all of his negative tweets about Trump after Trump became the Republican nominee. Grenell then began praising Trump regularly on Fox News and on Twitter.[34]

*Wikipedia

SunSeeker

(56,771 posts)
12. So he's closeted?
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 09:12 AM
Jun 2025

Seems like all Republicans obsessed with opposing gay and trans rights are.

TommyT139

(1,937 posts)
16. No, he's out.
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 09:27 AM
Jun 2025

Seems not to be married, though, which I infer from Wikipedia's use of "domestic partner" rather than "husband" for his partner, who is named there.

I don't care enough to check on that, though.

wolfie001

(6,213 posts)
54. He's wealthy so he doesn't have to deal with the average american violator of human rights
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 07:06 PM
Jun 2025

He's above all of that flotsam and jetsam. Just like Peter Thiel. Another

kimbutgar

(26,109 posts)
32. He looks like the reincarnation of that Nazi in the picture.
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 11:30 AM
Jun 2025

Just like Stephen miller looks like Goebbels.

Prairie Gates

(6,337 posts)
6. Grenell knows damn well that people boycotting don't care how their audience members vote
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 08:09 AM
Jun 2025

They care how the leadership of venues treat people, as should we all.

mpcamb

(3,144 posts)
8. " the sacred relationship between performers and ticket holders"... Do you mean money, Dick,
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 08:12 AM
Jun 2025

or the Arts?
Go count your consulting fees from Viktor Orbán!

William Seger

(11,833 posts)
11. Grenell is clueless
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 08:18 AM
Jun 2025
"I cannot begin to understand what business it is of Mr. Seller or Mr. Miranda how audience members vote or how it could possibly be relevant to the sacred relationship between performers and ticket holders, but they've made it clear that they won't perform for audiences that might contain Americans who disagree with them on matters irrelevant to the arts," Grenell wrote.


Grenell is a fuckwit who sucks at projecting. Miranda "made it clear" that the decision is because of RUMP's politicization of the Center, which is undeniable. Does Grenell really have NO CLUE what the problem is, or does he not have the integrity to deal with it honestly? Doesn't matter -- either way, he's another unfit appointment.

Hieronymus Phact

(666 posts)
25. He knows what he's saying
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 10:25 AM
Jun 2025

This is gaslighting to the fox audience, it's not even intended for you.
I wish people would understand this simple fact about repubs. - They're not talking to you!
They don't care if you find it stupid, clownish, ignorant or whatever, they don't care what you say about it.
The intention is gaslighting their ignorant base, not communicating with anyone outside that.

MyOwnPeace

(17,383 posts)
38. You got THAT right!
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 12:53 PM
Jun 2025

He's passing out today's 'Talking Points for Idiots' - preparing the cult for when they go out into the 'real world' and find that THEY are the idiots and that they are blind to reality.
Unfortunately, they 'took those "talking points" to the polls last November.

C_U_L8R

(48,158 posts)
14. May I suggest a puppet show instead.
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 09:24 AM
Jun 2025

That seems to be about as much culture as Grenell can handle.

JohnnyRingo

(20,171 posts)
19. He only got that job because he's a MAGA. Now he doesn't like partisan politics?
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 10:05 AM
Jun 2025

People weren't fired from the Kennedy Center because of their views of the arts, it was because they were too liberal to vote for Grenell's boss.
He has a lot of nerve to criticize artists for not complying with the venue whitewash.

Here's a quarter, call Greenwood and The Village People and book them as residents.

Sparkly

(24,744 posts)
21. "matters irrelevant to the arts"
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 10:08 AM
Jun 2025

Why did the mad king interject himself into the center in the first place if politics are irrelevant to the arts?! He made it relevant, and he made the boycott appropriate.

mn9driver

(4,775 posts)
22. He's just doing his job, keeping Donnie two scoops in every story.
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 10:12 AM
Jun 2025

Every one of Assclown’s appointees has just one function: Make the story about MAGA grievance. That’s what they do.

spudspud

(610 posts)
29. "I cannot begin to understand...
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 10:31 AM
Jun 2025

...what business it is of Mr. Seller or Mr. Miranda how audience members vote or how it could possibly be relevant to the sacred relationship between performers and ticket holders, but they've made it clear that they won't perform for audiences that might contain Americans who disagree with them on matters irrelevant to the arts," Grenell wrote.

TRANSLATION --> "Shut up and dribble."

yardwork

(68,135 posts)
42. "...on matters irrelevant to the arts."
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 03:46 PM
Jun 2025

I missed that amid all the other howlers.

The arts have always been about commenting on politics and other issues. Notably true of the production Hamilton. This moron doesn't have a clue about "the arts."

kimbutgar

(26,109 posts)
31. Isn't he the same guy who's going to run for governor of California ?
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 11:27 AM
Jun 2025

Shouldn’t he be in the state raising his profile ?

And attacking actors will not gain in votes in California!

republianmushroom

(21,453 posts)
33. Center President Grenell, you have a lot to live and learn.
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 11:37 AM
Jun 2025

Maybe little dude it is the way DICK-tator trump screwed over the previous board members and not how the audience votes. Duh

JHB

(37,835 posts)
34. "Cosplaying as victims"?
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 12:18 PM
Jun 2025


There are no greater practitioners of "cosplaying as victims" as MAGA.

Bluetus

(1,578 posts)
40. Theater is, by definition, cosplaying. That is what actors do.
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 03:15 PM
Jun 2025

Does this guy not understand that the lead character is not really Alexander Hamilton? It is an actor named Tyler Fauntleroy.

There are a couple of give-aways (spoiler alert):

1) Hamilton is dead. Has been for a minute.
2) Hamilton was white.

BobTheSubgenius

(12,099 posts)
37. Did anyone else find the word "sacred" jarring?
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 12:50 PM
Jun 2025

A pretty overblown, grandiose description of what is, at the end of the day, a mercantile transaction.

choie

(6,129 posts)
39. It's not about the performers not liking the voting record of the audience.
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 01:57 PM
Jun 2025

It's about them finding trump and his takeover of the Kennedy Center (including Grenell's ascension as director) despicable.

Montauk6

(9,238 posts)
49. Strange...
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 05:31 PM
Jun 2025

For some reason, I thought TacoTSF made himself the head honcho for the whole Kennedy Center enchilada.

VanceFan

(95 posts)
50. Good
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 06:13 PM
Jun 2025

I applaud the Hamilton actors. No one with a conscience should play at the Kennedy Center now. Let them have Greenwood, Nugent, Kid Rock and the other has-beens.

Ladythatvotesblue

(247 posts)
51. Kennedy Center
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 06:28 PM
Jun 2025

is there to express the Arts and Culture. To teach, and entertain.
The current administration is here to push ideas that belong in the dark ages.

mdbl

(7,430 posts)
55. The Kennedy Center is now a sick joke taken over by a heathenistic moron with no artistic inclinations.
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 08:43 PM
Jun 2025

I am of course talking about the orange buffoon.

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