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BumRushDaShow

(157,393 posts) Mon Jun 23, 2025, 04:20 PM Jun 23

Trump Administration Says Health Insurance Move Will Save $12 Billion

Source: Newsweek

Published Jun 23, 2025 at 10:42 AM EDT

The Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) has announced it is in the final stages of implementing a new rule that it says will "lower individual health insurance premiums" by 5 percent on average. CMS said the move is expected to save American taxpayers up to $12 billion in 2026, by "combating the surge of improper enrollments in the Affordable Care Act (ACA) Exchanges."

Concern has been raised by some that these new measures will push many Americans off their health coverage. "They will indeed save government money, but only by throwing off the ACA rolls millions of individuals who deserve to be on," Jonathan Gruber, a professor of economics at Massachusetts Institute of Technology, told Newsweek. Newsweek has contacted CMS via email for comment.

Why It Matters

According to a CMS release, the new rules are being brought in to tackle "waste, fraud and abuse" in health insurance markets—an issue that is at the forefront of the Trump administration's policies. A Government Accountability Office (GAO) report from 2024 found that $100 billion was discovered in "improper payments" in 2023 across the Medicare and Medicaid programs.

While wasteful spending in health insurance markets has been targeted by the administration to lower the tax burden for Americans, critics are concerned that sweeping cuts and changes will only push many off health coverage, subsequently driving up costs in the long-term.

Read more: https://www.newsweek.com/health-insurance-change-save-taxpayers-12-billion-2089223

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Trump Administration Says Health Insurance Move Will Save $12 Billion (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jun 23 OP

Saving money by kicking people off their health insurance coverage IronLionZion Jun 23 #1

And ultimately, uninsured people end up costing MORE TexasBushwhacker Jun 23 #4

And ultimately, uninsured people end up costing MORE TexasBushwhacker Jun 23 #5

So true you had to say it twice BaronChocula Jun 23 #12

GOP health plan is die quickly IronLionZion Jun 23 #13

But that's where the cost of early disability or death comes into play TexasBushwhacker Jun 23 #14

New Paragon Report: Obamacare Enrollment Fraud Surged in 2025 SARose Jun 23 #2

Fuck him and his entire calvary. Ferrets are Cool Jun 23 #3

The "waste fraud and abuse" isn't being done by individuals as much as it is by the Insurance Companies themselves. patphil Jun 23 #6

hard to keep a straight face when readig this out loud Vthestate Jun 23 #7

Now with added trans hostility TommyT139 Jun 23 #8

I don't want to hear any more of this soulless penny-pinching bullshit out of this fucking fascist joke of a party ever Karasu Jun 23 #9

We can save Bigly if we do nothing for the people ! delisen Jun 23 #10

I think the goverment doesn't care if poor people die CozyMystery Jun 25 #16

If the idea of health insurance is to save people money then why is half the cost of health care for the insurance cost. twodogsbarking Jun 23 #11

So when did the Dump administration learn how to add? mdbl Jun 24 #15

Trump administration said? Same Trump administration that 'obliterated' Iran's nuke program? Attilatheblond Jun 25 #17

IronLionZion

(49,525 posts)

1. Saving money by kicking people off their health insurance coverage

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Mon Jun 23, 2025, 04:23 PM

Jun 23

"waste, fraud and abuse"

TexasBushwhacker

(20,952 posts)

4. And ultimately, uninsured people end up costing MORE

Reply to IronLionZion (Reply #1)

Mon Jun 23, 2025, 04:42 PM

Jun 23

Cancer and chronic diseases like diabetes aren't caught early when they are more treatable

ERs get used for primary care

More premature disability and death means more Social Security benefits paid to the disabled and survivors.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,952 posts)

5. And ultimately, uninsured people end up costing MORE

Reply to IronLionZion (Reply #1)

Mon Jun 23, 2025, 04:42 PM

Jun 23

BaronChocula

(3,045 posts)

12. So true you had to say it twice

Reply to TexasBushwhacker (Reply #5)

Mon Jun 23, 2025, 05:12 PM

Jun 23

One of those things the ignorati don't know or care to know. I know I've explained this to people and it went right over many a head. Woooosh.

IronLionZion

(49,525 posts)

13. GOP health plan is die quickly

Reply to TexasBushwhacker (Reply #5)

Mon Jun 23, 2025, 06:16 PM

Jun 23

They lose money on treating people with chronic diseases, so they find it more efficient if we just die.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,952 posts)

14. But that's where the cost of early disability or death comes into play

Reply to IronLionZion (Reply #13)

Mon Jun 23, 2025, 07:19 PM

Jun 23

If they have to pay SSDI to someone who's become permanently disabled, rather than keeping them healthy and working, paying taxes, that's a cost.

If someone dies while they have a dependent spouse and/or children, that's a cost.

SARose

(1,687 posts)

2. New Paragon Report: Obamacare Enrollment Fraud Surged in 2025

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Mon Jun 23, 2025, 04:35 PM

Jun 23

Here

I refuse to quote from this article. It is full of ifs and maybes and kinda sorta and oh my goodness we might actually be helping people!

Piece of garbage. Same ole fear mongering conservatives afraid somebody got more Easter eggs than they did.

Pffft!

Ferrets are Cool

(22,329 posts)

3. Fuck him and his entire calvary.

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Mon Jun 23, 2025, 04:39 PM

Jun 23

patphil

(8,116 posts)

6. The "waste fraud and abuse" isn't being done by individuals as much as it is by the Insurance Companies themselves.

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Mon Jun 23, 2025, 04:49 PM

Jun 23

But then it's easier to kick people off than it is to make big corporations toe the line.
Besides, corporations and their officers make donations to campaigns; big donations.

Vthestate

(30 posts)

7. hard to keep a straight face when readig this out loud

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Mon Jun 23, 2025, 04:55 PM

Jun 23

Think " https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2014/mar/03/florida-democratic-party/rick-scott-rick-scott-oversaw-largest-medicare-fra/" Rick Scott largest fraud case ever settled in the USA.....,GOP theft again and again. How about run program and then claim savings.....they never have saved the amount they claim...never. Why do they get away with it? What would actual health care cost...forget insurance...just cover everyone for everything no charge....big savings. and Free parking at the hospital.

TommyT139

(1,658 posts)

8. Now with added trans hostility

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Mon Jun 23, 2025, 04:57 PM

Jun 23

From the article:

Additional actions being made by CMS in regard to ACA Exchanges include a move to ensure federal ACA subsidies will no longer be available "to help cover the cost of specified sex-trait modification procedures to align an individual's physical appearance or body with an asserted identity that differs from the individual's sex."

If you know a trans person who gets care through the ACA exchange, please warn them so they can reach out to their healthcare provider.

Karasu

(1,716 posts)

9. I don't want to hear any more of this soulless penny-pinching bullshit out of this fucking fascist joke of a party ever

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Mon Jun 23, 2025, 04:59 PM

Jun 23

fucking again, especially now that they're starting yet another fucking pointless war in the Middle East EVERYONE is going to pay for...and as a direct result of their idiotic actions, Hormuz is going to be closed to boot, exacerbating the situation even further. Because all of the tariffs and mindless firing/defunding of government agencies wasn't enough.

Fuck the GOP and anyone who still supports it for any fucking reason.

delisen

(7,113 posts)

10. We can save Bigly if we do nothing for the people !

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Mon Jun 23, 2025, 05:05 PM

Jun 23

If we let government of, by, and for the people perish and end all collective action we will save a fortune.
Let’s just end this human society nonsense and live like the wild animals again

Eat, sleep, and shelter,, reproduce, and heal ourselves or die like the animals of ancient times.

No more taxes. Just live a die.

Crypto me up bro.

CozyMystery

(665 posts)

16. I think the goverment doesn't care if poor people die

Reply to delisen (Reply #10)

Wed Jun 25, 2025, 11:07 AM

Jun 25

It's a win for the government -- the dead don't need medicaid or food stamps or housing subsidies or disability payments.

So if they can prune away the poor, what is left is people who don't require help. God knows what will happen when AI takes a bunch of jobs away. I guess it will be time for more pruning.

It significantly angers me that poor people do not have healthcare, good educations (since that is funded by property taxes), nutritious food, daycare, jobs that pay a living wage, and decent housing. I think that leveling the playing field would benefit all of us.

Instead we have Greed running the show, vast protections in place for the very wealthy, corrupt elections (financing and gerrymandering and billionaires and large corporations running the show), huge undue influence of lobbyists, elected representatives that seem to be very corrupt, and very little of evidence of having a government that is of the people, by the people, and for the people. I think we would be better off with a pure democracy. I think we'd be better off if running for election were not so expensive, if Citizens United had not been wrongly decided, if the electoral college were abolished, if many politicians, corporations, and wealthy people were not corrupt, and if so many old white men were not in positions of power.

I have more to say, but this would turn into a Super Rant.