Is a net gain for California.

what is owed at tax time, YOU do NOT pay directly to the IRS. Your employer does. So if CA REQUIRED businesses to INSTEAD submit those payments to a state-overseen ESCROW account until and IF an agreement is reached with FEDs with court approval, then the administration would very quickly see how much California means to the rest of the nation. I'd expect a very quick reversal of Trump's actions toward CA and/or a court-ordered settlement to that effect. At that point that escrow account would release those funds to IRS, complete with all records.

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If California businesses did that for six months, as the world's fourth biggest economy, the WH would be screaming like a pig.

Could it be done sans official secession? Who knows, but every damned thing this administration is doing now is either blatantly unconstitutional, unprecedented, or both, so...

and along with State Sales taxes. Have it routed to a secured escrow account--if and only until the FEDS relent and a legal court-overseen agreement is achieved. Read my previous post, as I admit there is no path that would not likewise suggest (threaten) secession. Nuts? Unprecedented? Unconstitutional? Sure. But it would take time to fight it out, and by that time, the FOURTH largest WORLD's economy would have deprived Federal coffers at an unprecedented rate, and the WH AND SCOTUS WOULD fold on Trump's UNCONSTITUTIONAL act of taking all legally designated funding away from California.

Given we are living in a time when the first 120 days have brought one unconstitutional act after another after another--INCLUDING the aforementioned attempt to deprive California of all previously approved funding-- this Coloradoan would strongly suggest California not only take legal action but seriously look at "out of the box" possibilities. At this point, I would not even rule out regional action that could readily include California, WA, OR, Colorado, New Mexico and a regional alliance among the NE and Mid-Atlantic and upper Midwestern states.

If Trump (or even Vance, should he somehow take over) proceeds with such illegal, unconstitutional, and destructive actions at the intense rate they have, then failure to think worst-case scenario will almost assuredly bring it to us. Call me hyperbolic but I do not intend to bury my head and hope for the best.

economy. I suspect the estimated federal income tax deduction is not automatic and can be withheld from automatic deduction, if not increase dependents deduction to 10, or more!.. FICA probably cannot. Good possibility Oregon, Washington and New York would join in.

It is not the individual (except for the self-employed) who sends their taxes to IRS--except for underpayments owed at tax time). If CA (yes, illegally from a FEDERAL perspective) requires businesses to instead forward those payments to an ESCROW account held by California, until such time the state and FEDS come to an agreement, court-ordered or independent.

Yes, it would all but amount to a threat of secession, but if these states that are being extorted do not think in worst case scenarios at the same time they go all "in" on court challenges, then that worst case scenario will surely come.

This administration needs to be canceled and jailed.

The criminal, lawless Turd would never have dared to do this if Jerry Brown was Governor of California.

to cancel State grants.

California Governor Gavin Newsom fired back at Donald Trump after CNN reported that the administration was seeking to cut off federal money to the state.

“Californians pay the bills for the federal government. We pay over $80 BILLION more in taxes than we get back. Maybe it’s time to cut that off, @realDonaldTrump,” Newsom wrote on X.California Governor Gavin Newsom fired back at Donald Trump after CNN reported that the administration was seeking to cut off federal money to the state.

“Californians pay the bills for the federal government. We pay over $80 BILLION more in taxes than we get back. Maybe it’s time to cut that off, @realDonaldTrump,” Newsom wrote on X.



https://www.yahoo.com/news/gavin-newsom-suggests-maybe-time-213806620.html

last 5 months.

They want to single out a specific state without precedent? That's on them. They're the reason there is no precedent anymore. CA should do whatever they have to do in response.

Stop withholding and paying federal taxes!

is about to begin.....like now.

The whole west coast voted against the slob father.

will now be the recipient of all Federal Taxes withheld by any employer which does business in California. Two can play the Turd's silly unconstitutional "executive order" game.

Newsom has been very disappointing as of late, this could be a chance for him to actually... I don't know.. protect our state!?

See how King trDUMP likes thems avocados 🥑.

Congress has the power of the purse.

and even not support the "big beautiful" ugly monstrous bill.

#1 problem.

To keep them compliant.

It is just the moral compass is way off.

Healthcare, science, education, the economy, etc.

They just can't go after everybody at the same time. Divert all federal tax payments to a temporary "tax account", held until Trump and his assholes are gone. Imagine....if you could time travel JFK....non of this crap would be going on.

would have to do that.