Orange ogre never intended to propose anything that would benefit Ukraine in any way. It's all for pootin and whatever he can conger up for himself. He sees it all as spoils of war.

This will be another perpetually tense and fortified border ala the Korean DMZ. And the Baltic states will look at this as exposing them for future aggression from Russia. Trump is a complete sell out to Putin.

Walk away Ukraine.

What's next: Witkoff will travel to Moscow later this week for his fourth meeting with Putin, the White House announced Tuesday.

But Witkoff and Secretary of State Marco Rubio are both expected to skip talks in London on Wednesday involving U.S., Ukrainian, French, German and U.K. officials. Both had previously planned to attend.
Instead, Ukraine envoy Keith Kellogg is expected to lead the U.S. delegation. The U.S. proposal is expected to be part of the discussions.

Since US Republicans have accepted Russian occupation of the Oval Office, Ukrainians should accept occupation of their country. BTW, fuck Trump and his minions with a saguaro 🌵.

You can bet that putin will be running things from the oval office.

"Both ... give up some of the territory they currently own" is doing a lot of work there. Vance/Trump/whoever is not asking Russia to "give up" a single bit of Russia as internationally recognised; the only movement of the front line towards Russia mentioned is "the return of the small part of Kharkiv oblast Russia has occupied", which is, of course, not "owned". Russia get to control everything else it has invaded, and gets US recognition of Crimea as part of Russia.

I presume "walk away from this process" is a threat to withdraw all US military support from Ukraine. Because if it was just "the US won't try and make a deal anymore", it wouldn't be much of a threat, would it? More like a relief that the biased and out-of-their-depth US "negotiators" would stop wasting people's time.

The free nations of the world are stepping up, this is a good thing for the world and bad for the US. They will learn that they can be super powers too.

Ukraine’s answer will be no we are not surrendering any of our lands or people. End of story.

BTW: Russia is losing.

1). They are running out of vehicles to transport troops they have been using horses,
motorcycles, scooters, and walking to move their forces into battle and Ukrainian drones
are slaughtering them.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/113349102

B). Battle hardened Columbian troops are now in country and they are thrashing Russian
and North Korean troops. One Columbian officer said that Ukrainian drones are cleaning out
and spotting enemy forces before they are deployed.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/113349092

Ukraine has TWO enemies at the peace tables!! (which we KNEW would happen! Fuck TSF to HELL!!

That's his plan. Surrender.

Not gonna happen.

We are not a first rate power anymore under TSF and TSF will fold to his friend Pootie.

He is Putin's mouthpiece, and his only solution is for Ukraine to surrender. Putin would go on to plunder the rest of Ukraine, then move on to other countries.

Manifest Destiny, Russian style.

He is a fool, an imbecile, a moron, a stooge, a crass ass-hat and more, but he is also a complicit war criminal trying to force a nominally allied nation to cede territory to an avowed enemy and supporting the war crimes and abuses of Putin in the process.

When the hammer of justice falls on Trump, I hope he remains the coward that he is but does not go out like Hitler, rather gets captured like Saddam and goes out the same goddamn way.

He wants to frame the narrative, as he has been doing all along, that Ukraine is the cause of the war and the reason there is no peace. Ukraine won't submit and give up land to psychopaths who invaded their country ? Well then, we'll just walk away because Ukraine is unreasonable. Victim blaming and victim shaming. Innocent Ukrainians are dying every day. This is a shame on the United States.

If they don't- Poland will be pootie's next morsel.

he claims now. ( https://www.euronews.com/2025/03/15/trump-says-he-was-a-bit-sarcastic-when-he-claimed-he-could-end-the-war-in-ukraine-in-24-ho )

I feel like his cult members know this, and that we fall into his trap by believing that his spoken words are supposed to mean anything.

The question that just constantly shadows my psyche though is how is it possible that Democrats can't make more political headway on the fact that his proclamations are such obvious sacks of feces? We are a long way down the road from his boast that Mexico would pay to build the border wall to keep people out of the U.S.; and obviously we do not have a shiny new healthcare system. Yet every new boast is met with some perception that he really means it.

It is not solely the fault of the press--although good arguments can be made in that area. Political reality is formed through so many factors: social media; memes; press coverage; public perception; word of mouth. Why do his lies seem to always ascend and never create fallout? Are we simply witnessing the work of one of the greatest con-artists in history?

...and so many other words.

Either end the war and let Russia take over, or you get nothing from us.

Zelenskyy's Red Line on Crimea Changed Everything

Thank you, Zelenskyy, for telling the Putin's puppets to shove it.

Link to tweet

RUSSIA.