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BumRushDaShow

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Mon Apr 21, 2025, 04:01 AM Monday

Pope Francis, first Latin American pontiff who ministered with a charming, humble style, dies at 88

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Source: AP


Pope Francis has died. He was history's first Latin American pontiff who charmed the world with his humble style and concern for the poor but alienated conservatives with critiques of capitalism and climate change. He was 88.

Updated 7:18 AM EDT, April 21, 2025


VATICAN CITY (AP) — Pope Francis, history’s first Latin American pontiff who charmed the world with his humble style and concern for the poor but alienated conservatives with critiques of capitalism and climate change, died Monday. He was 88.

Bells tolled in church towers across Rome after the announcement, which was read out by Cardinal Kevin Farrell from the chapel of the Domus Santa Marta, where Francis lived.

“At 7:35 this morning, the Bishop of Rome, Francis, returned to the home of the Father. His entire life was dedicated to the service of the Lord and of his Church,” said Farrell, the Vatican camerlengo, who takes charge after a pontiff’s death.

Francis, who suffered from chronic lung disease and had part of one lung removed as a young man, was admitted to Gemelli hospital on Feb. 14, 2025, for a respiratory crisis that developed into double pneumonia. He spent 38 days there, the longest hospitalization of his 12-year papacy.

He made his last public appearance on Easter Sunday — a day before his death — to bless thousands of people in St. Peter’s Square, drawing wild cheers and applause. Beforehand, he met briefly with U.S. Vice President JD Vance.

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/vatican-pope-francis-dead-01ca7d73c3c48d25fd1504ba076e2e2a



Article updated.

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Updated 5:31 AM EDT, April 21, 2025


VATICAN CITY (AP) -- Pope Francis, history's first Latin American pontiff who charmed the world with his humble style and concern for the poor but alienated conservatives with critiques of capitalism and climate change, died Monday. He was 88.

Bells tolled in church towers across Rome after the announcement, which was read out by Cardinal Kevin Ferrell, the Vatican camerlengo, from the chapel of the Domus Santa Marta, where Francis lived. "At 7:35 this morning, the Bishop of Rome, Francis, returned to the home of the Father. His entire life was dedicated to the service of the Lord and of his Church,″ Ferrell said.

Francis, who suffered from chronic lung disease and had part of one lung removed as a young man, was admitted to Gemelli hospital on Feb. 14, 2025, for a respiratory crisis that developed into double pneumonia. He spent 38 days there, the longest hospitalization of his 12-year papacy.

But he emerged on Easter Sunday -- his last public appearance, a day before his death -- to bless thousands of people in St. Peter's Square and treat them to a surprise popemobile romp through the piazza, drawing wild cheers and applause. Beforehand, he met briefly with U.S. Vice President JD Vance.



Updated 5:11 AM EDT, April 21, 2025


VATICAN CITY (AP) -- Pope Francis, history's first Latin American pontiff who charmed the world with his humble style and concern for the poor but alienated conservatives with critiques of capitalism and climate change, died Monday. He was 88.

Bells tolled in church towers across Rome after the announcement, which was read out by Cardinal Kevin Ferrell, the Vatican camerlengo, from the chapel of the Domus Santa Marta, where Francis lived. "At 7:35 this morning, the Bishop of Rome, Francis, returned to the home of the Father. His entire life was dedicated to the service of the Lord and of his Church,″ Ferrell said.

Francis, who suffered from chronic lung disease and had part of one lung removed as a young man, was admitted to Gemelli hospital on Feb. 14, 2025, for a respiratory crisis that developed into double pneumonia. He spent 38 days there, the longest hospitalization of his 12-year papacy.

But he emerged on Easter Sunday -- his last public appearance, a day before his death -- to bless thousands of people in St. Peter's Square and treat them to a surprise popemobile romp through the piazza, drawing wild cheers and applause. Beforehand, he met briefly with U.S. Vice President JD Vance.



Updated 4:36 AM EDT, April 21, 2025


VATICAN CITY (AP) -- Pope Francis, history's first Latin American pontiff who charmed the world with his humble style and concern for the poor but alienated conservatives with critiques of capitalism and climate change, died Monday. He was 88. Bells tolled in church towers across Rome after the announcement, which was read out by Cardinal Kevin Ferrell, the Vatican camerlengo, from the chapel of the Domus Santa Marta, where Francis lived.

"At 7:35 this morning, the Bishop of Rome, Francis, returned to the home of the Father. His entire life was dedicated to the service of the Lord and of his Church,″ Ferrell said.

Francis, who suffered from chronic lung disease and had part of one lung removed as a young man, was admitted to Gemelli hospital on Feb. 14, 2025, for a respiratory crisis that developed into double pneumonia. He spent 38 days there, the longest hospitalization of his 12-year papacy.

But he emerged on Easter Sunday -- a day before his death -- to bless thousands of people in St. Peter's Square and treat them to a surprise popemobile romp through the piazza, drawing wild cheers and applause.



Updated 4:15 AM EDT, April 21, 2025


VATICAN CITY (AP) -- Pope Francis, history's first Latin American pontiff who charmed the world with his humble style and concern for the poor but alienated conservatives with critiques of capitalism and climate change, has died Monday. He was 88. "At 7:35 this morning, the Bishop of Rome, Francis, returned to the home of the Father. His entire life was dedicated to the service of the Lord and of his Church,″ Cardinal Kevin Ferrell, the Vatican camerlengo, said in an announcement.

Bells tolled in church towers across Rome after the announcement. Francis, who suffered from chronic lung disease and had part of one lung removed as a young man, was admitted to Gemelli hospital on Feb. 14, 2025, for a respiratory crisis that developed into double pneumonia. He spent 38 days there, the longest hospitalization of his 12-year papacy.

From his first greeting as pope -- a remarkably normal "Buonasera" ("Good evening" ) -- to his embrace of refugees and the downtrodden, Francis signaled a very different tone for the papacy, stressing humility over hubris for a Catholic Church beset by scandal and accusations of indifference.

After that rainy night on March 13, 2013, the Argentine-born Jorge Mario Bergoglio brought a breath of fresh air into a 2,000-year-old institution that had seen its influence wane during the troubled tenure of Pope Benedict XVI, whose surprise resignation led to Francis' election.



Updated 4:08 AM EDT, April 21, 2025


VATICAN CITY (AP) -- Pope Francis, history's first Latin American pontiff who charmed the world with his humble style and concern for the poor but alienated conservatives with critiques of capitalism and climate change, has died Monday. He was 88. "At 7:35 this morning, the Bishop of Rome, Francis, returned to the home of the Father. His entire life was dedicated to the service of the Lord and of his Church,″ Cardinal Kevin Ferrell, the Vatican camerlengo, said in an announcement.

Francis, who suffered from chronic lung disease and had part of one lung removed as a young man, was admitted to Gemelli hospital on Feb. 14, 2025, for a respiratory crisis that developed into double pneumonia. He spent 38 days there, the longest hospitalization of his 12-year papacy.

From his first greeting as pope -- a remarkably normal "Buonasera" ("Good evening" ) -- to his embrace of refugees and the downtrodden, Francis signaled a very different tone for the papacy, stressing humility over hubris for a Catholic Church beset by scandal and accusations of indifference.

After that rainy night on March 13, 2013, the Argentine-born Jorge Mario Bergoglio brought a breath of fresh air into a 2,000-year-old institution that had seen its influence wane during the troubled tenure of Pope Benedict XVI, whose surprise resignation led to Francis' election.



Pope Francis has died, the Vatican camerlengo, announces

Updated 4:01 AM EDT, April 21, 2025


VATICAN CITY (AP) -- Pope Francis died Monday morning, Cardinal Kevin Ferrell, the Vatican camerlengo, announced.

"At 7:35 this morning, the Bishop of Rome, Francis, returned to the home of the Father. His entire life was dedicated to the service of the Lord and of his Church,″ Farrell said in the announcement.

"He taught us to live the values of the Gospel with faithfulness, courage, and universal love, especially for the poorest and most marginalized.

"With immense gratitude for his example as a true disciple of the Lord Jesus, we commend the soul of Pope Francis to the infinite, merciful love of God, One and Tribune.″


Original article -

Updated 3:58 AM EDT, April 21, 2025

VATICAN CITY (AP) -- Pope Francis died Monday morning, Cardinal Kevin Ferrell, the Vatican camerlengo, announced.

"At 7:35 this morning, the Bishop of Rome, Francis, returned to the home of the Father. His entire life was dedicated to the service of the Lord and of his Church,″ Farrell said in the announcement.
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Pope Francis, first Latin American pontiff who ministered with a charming, humble style, dies at 88 (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Monday OP
The angels are caring for Pope Francis now. Peace to all. riversedge Monday #1
I'm nitpicking, but I believe that the question mark in the second paragraph should be a quotation mark instead? TexasTowelie Monday #2
There are some characters that when copied/pasted will generate a different rendered character BumRushDaShow Monday #11
seems like and it's an unfortunate typo LymphocyteLover Monday #30
As BumRushDaShow says, it's an artifact of copying into DU muriel_volestrangler Monday #32
LOL BigDemVoter Monday #49
Roberta Metsola @EP_President Europe mourns the passing of His Holiness Pope Francis. riversedge Monday #3
RIP, Pope Francis. brush Monday #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Mawspam2 Monday #5
RIP. Buckeye_Democrat Monday #6
I can't believe True Dough Monday #19
... littlemissmartypants Monday #7
Thanks for hanging on long enough to rebuke Vance lostnfound Monday #8
Yes. Devastating news but there is that. hlthe2b Monday #15
One of the Pope's very last statements "I continue to receive very serious and painful news from Gaza. Unarmed civilian riversedge Monday #9
My favorite pope. He made a difference. Intractable Monday #10
Here comes another RAT-zinger wolfie001 Monday #12
That is gonna be a concern BumRushDaShow Monday #16
However, it's the College of Cardinals who will elect, and he appointed the vast majority of them Hekate Monday #66
Right! Chrysanthemum Monday #69
But also remember that he was a Jesuit BumRushDaShow Monday #71
Yes, I did see that earlier wolfie001 Monday #74
I sure Hope NOT! 😔 electric_blue68 Monday #73
I don't know if there was ever any other Pope who was so loved ..... 70sEraVet Monday #13
John Paul II was incredibly popular Polybius Monday #42
So was Paul VI cab67 Monday #59
He was a good pope. cab67 Monday #60
JP II was promoted by EWTN because neocons used JPII CNYHarris Monday #70
Let's also not forget Pope John XXIII Chrysanthemum Monday #68
R-I-P Pope Francis 🙏 you made a difference. ✝️ nt Raine Monday #14
Cross gently, good sir. You will be missed... Hekate Monday #17
This is horrible news--no matter religious or not hlthe2b Monday #18
The first Jesuit Pope blogslug Monday #20
Sad to hear we've lost a man of compassion. BBC World Service Mike 03 Monday #21
One meeting with JD Vance liberalgunwilltravel Monday #22
My very first thought nt Javaman Monday #23
Just being in the presence of so much evil LiberalArkie Monday #24
that was my thought- or JD actually killed him Tumbulu Monday #44
This message was self-deleted by its author mvd Monday #25
He was as good as it gets for a Pope mvd Monday #26
Very sad news bdamomma Monday #27
I'm a former Catholic, but I appreciated him. I think he tried to do good. And there were Catholics Scrivener7 Monday #28
Lord these are trying times we travel. bucolic_frolic Monday #29
The Vance touch? LymphocyteLover Monday #31
Eternal Rest Grant gademocrat7 Monday #33
He was a very good man WestMichRad Monday #34
The least evil Pope. nt Gore1FL Monday #35
Pope Francis wasn't evil. N/T lapucelle Monday #39
Post removed Post removed Monday #45
There appears to be a cockroach crawling around on your page. N/T lapucelle Monday #50
It seems that Majorie Taylor Greene thought that Pope Francis was evil. lapucelle Monday #56
If evil was defeated she wouldn't be here Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Monday #62
Best Pope of my lifetime IronLionZion Monday #36
""" AllaN01Bear Monday #37
Pope Francis Clouds Passing Monday #38
A beautiful human being with power who moved the dial forward...the path of humanity. Passages Monday #40
"the path of humanity" ... well, except for half of it. Sky Jewels Monday #48
His flaws were obvious and on his death I can see hope the left will see more progress. Passages Monday #53
As a feminist who grew up Catholic (no longer for decades) I hate the Patriarchal Structure of the RCC...And.I can... electric_blue68 Monday #72
I'm not Catholic, but I had a good sense about this man. hamsterjill Monday #41
He was a truly remarkable man. NH Ethylene Monday #43
Is it a coincidence that he dies just hours after meeting Vance? SpankMe Monday #46
Welp, time to put a big hat on top of the head of a penis-haver Sky Jewels Monday #47
Hear, hear! BigmanPigman Tuesday #80
Earth Day Deep State Witch Monday #51
R.I.P. Marthe48 Monday #52
You don't agree with these, Pope Francis's major teachings and diplomatic actions? ancianita Monday #58
How about 95% plus or minus? Marthe48 Monday #63
R: women as full members of RCC dicasteries...interesting... electric_blue68 Monday #75
As far as women go... ancianita Monday #77
Interesting 👍 electric_blue68 Monday #78
The last pope CNYHarris Monday #54
sigh... swampthingdc Monday #55
While I consider myself a recovering catholic, I do recognize Pope Francis sdfernando Monday #57
I'm one who was raised Catholic but now am atheist. That said I had a lot of respect for Pope Francis. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Monday #61
Pope Francis Ladythatvotesblue Monday #64
I am atheist but Im crying like a baby over his death.. samnsara Monday #65
RIP area51 Monday #67
I'm sure His Holiness would be kinder than me about this... Paladin Monday #76
He did not go far enough with his reforms, but at least it was a start in the right direction. totodeinhere Monday #79
It is as if Francis knew that his life was ending ..... Shoonra Tuesday #81

TexasTowelie

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2. I'm nitpicking, but I believe that the question mark in the second paragraph should be a quotation mark instead?
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 04:08 AM
Monday

A different interpretation occurs when read otherwise.

BumRushDaShow

(151,125 posts)
11. There are some characters that when copied/pasted will generate a different rendered character
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 04:33 AM
Monday

I see this happen the most on USA Today articles that often use an "em dash" (long dash) that DU's software can't render. Similarly something happens with certain types of double quote marks (there are some that are actually "directional" - leaning right or leaning left).

muriel_volestrangler

(103,478 posts)
32. As BumRushDaShow says, it's an artifact of copying into DU
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 07:46 AM
Monday

If you visit the AP article, you'll see it's a closing double quotation mark. This has a Unicode value above 256 (8221 in this case), and DU doesn't always deal with these well - sometimes because they may be used for SQL attacks (though I don't think that's the case here). Squint carefully, and you'll see the difference between the purely-vertical double quotation mark that can be used for opening and closing, which you can get from your keyboard:
"
and the opening and closing ones:


https://www.toptal.com/designers/htmlarrows/punctuation/left-double-quotation-mark/
https://www.toptal.com/designers/htmlarrows/punctuation/right-double-quotation-mark/

riversedge

(75,145 posts)
3. Roberta Metsola @EP_President Europe mourns the passing of His Holiness Pope Francis.
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 04:09 AM
Monday


Roberta Metsola
@EP_President
Europe mourns the passing of His Holiness Pope Francis.

His contagious smile captured millions of people’s hearts across the globe.

‘The People’s Pope’ will be remembered for his love for life, hope for peace, compassion for equality & social justice.

May he rest in peace 🇪🇺🇻🇦

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Buckeye_Democrat

(15,225 posts)
6. RIP.
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 04:16 AM
Monday

After meeting with Pope Francis just the previous day, here's a picture of JD Vance after the pronouncement of death:

lostnfound

(16,928 posts)
8. Thanks for hanging on long enough to rebuke Vance
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 04:28 AM
Monday

it is sad news for those who do not want a rightward leap again for the church. Pope Frank was a pretty good judge of character.

riversedge

(75,145 posts)
9. One of the Pope's very last statements "I continue to receive very serious and painful news from Gaza. Unarmed civilian
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 04:29 AM
Monday



One of the Pope’s very last statements

"I continue to receive very serious and painful news from Gaza. Unarmed civilians are subjected to bombings and shootings. It is terrorism."

wolfie001

(4,686 posts)
12. Here comes another RAT-zinger
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 04:37 AM
Monday

With the Far-Right govt., this is very concerning. Remember when the right-wing crazies (probably many DU members' family members) made up all those allegations about Soros and his "collaboration"? Yet they overlooked documented history:

BumRushDaShow

(151,125 posts)
16. That is gonna be a concern
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 04:46 AM
Monday

because there are a lot of pissed off far right loons in the church hierarchy.

Hekate

(97,318 posts)
66. However, it's the College of Cardinals who will elect, and he appointed the vast majority of them
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 02:41 PM
Monday

So there is certainly that

Chrysanthemum

(206 posts)
69. Right!
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 02:52 PM
Monday

Two thirds of the eligible members of the College of Cardinals (all those under the age of 80) were appointed by Francis.

BumRushDaShow

(151,125 posts)
71. But also remember that he was a Jesuit
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 03:50 PM
Monday

and of the current compliment of Cardinals (not necessarily appointed by him), at least as of his last set of selections this past December, only 8 are Jesuit. However he has definitely emphasized selecting Cardinals from the many "orders", so will have to see.

I expect there were a range of perspectives for those who he appointed and probably many who would align with his worldview... But like everything else in a church or government or large organization, there is always "politics" involved and jockeying for power (I know the book/miniseries "The Thorn Birds" showed that! ).

70sEraVet

(4,457 posts)
13. I don't know if there was ever any other Pope who was so loved .....
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 04:42 AM
Monday

by people outside as well as inside the Catholic Church.

cab67

(3,322 posts)
59. So was Paul VI
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 01:53 PM
Monday

except for the more conservative side of the church. He was responsible for the Vatican II reforms.

cab67

(3,322 posts)
60. He was a good pope.
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 01:57 PM
Monday

I gave up Catholicism for Lent several years ago, and it kinda stuck, but I still feel an affinity for the less conservative communities within the Roman Catholic Church. Part of my decision to pull back was the openly political ambitions of Catholic Bishops and Archbishops in the US, which were all decidedly right of center, but Francis demonstrated that Catholics like the version of me that was active in the church can still be a force for good.

I became a liberal in part because I read the Gospels and Acts of the Apostles.

CNYHarris

(58 posts)
70. JP II was promoted by EWTN because neocons used JPII
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 02:56 PM
Monday

The neocons tried to make JPII into a divine pope (John Paul II the Greatest) because the Catholic Church was used to elect Republicans and because of the role of JPII in defeating the Washington enemy of the USSR. If you work with Reagan and the Republicans for Washington Republican cia agenda, then the media promote viewers to support you.

If you are a pope critical of Trump, the media focuses on how you are a controversial pope of the poor.

EWTN News, financed by cia shell groups, secretly hated Pope Francis.

Pope Francis responds to attacks from EWTN, other church critics: ‘They are the work of the devil.’

https://www.americamagazine.org/faith/2021/09/21/pope-francis-ewtn-critics-241472

Chrysanthemum

(206 posts)
68. Let's also not forget Pope John XXIII
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 02:49 PM
Monday

Pope John XXIII, who convened the much-needed Second Vatican Council, was also much beloved throughout the world.

hlthe2b

(109,236 posts)
18. This is horrible news--no matter religious or not
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 05:09 AM
Monday

His last message on immigration was sorely needed and I fear we will not see another like him but more likely a return to the very conservative mode of the Ratzinger (Benedict).

Truly horrible news to wake to.

Mike 03

(18,403 posts)
21. Sad to hear we've lost a man of compassion. BBC World Service
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 06:06 AM
Monday

is doing extended coverage this morning if anyone likes their coverage.

My heart goes out to Catholics, Christians and anyone affected by the loss of a gentle, engaged and caring example. I hope the next Pope believes in Climate Change too.

Tumbulu

(6,529 posts)
44. that was my thought- or JD actually killed him
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 10:48 AM
Monday

when I saw the JD touching him in the video shared on media, my immediate thought was that that rudeness of that creep touching Pope Francis could be deadly.

Yikes- my impression proved to be true!

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

mvd

(65,619 posts)
26. He was as good as it gets for a Pope
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 06:47 AM
Monday

This is sad news. He did a lot of good work. I didn’t agree with him on everything but the Church hasn’t come to that yet. Here’s hoping they don’t go to a conservative again.

bdamomma

(68,055 posts)
27. Very sad news
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 06:57 AM
Monday

Pope Francis was such a good man, devoted to those who are less fortunate and had a good heart. That smile warmed everyone's heart.

Scrivener7

(55,434 posts)
28. I'm a former Catholic, but I appreciated him. I think he tried to do good. And there were Catholics
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 07:11 AM
Monday

who heard what he said about trump, though many ignored that message.

I fear who they will choose next.

gademocrat7

(11,426 posts)
33. Eternal Rest Grant
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 08:02 AM
Monday

unto Pope Francis Lord. And may perpetual light shine upon him.
He was an intelligent, kind and caring pontiff.

WestMichRad

(2,248 posts)
34. He was a very good man
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 08:10 AM
Monday

…and we were all fortunate to have him as pope. And I say that as an atheist.

May he forever R.I.P.

Response to lapucelle (Reply #39)

Passages

(2,634 posts)
40. A beautiful human being with power who moved the dial forward...the path of humanity.
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 10:16 AM
Monday

I do hope he will not be the last, there is much more that needs to be done.

RIP forever.

Sky Jewels

(9,099 posts)
48. "the path of humanity" ... well, except for half of it.
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 11:10 AM
Monday

According to the RCC, women don't deserve equal standing with men and they don't deserve bodily autonomy. This pope agreed.

I utterly despise the male supremacist grifting ring known as the RCC.

Passages

(2,634 posts)
53. His flaws were obvious and on his death I can see hope the left will see more progress.
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 12:34 PM
Monday

I'm Jewish, so to me, the whole Vatican establishment is a bewilderment. Yet, one can see he made progress in important ways....I hope that continues.

electric_blue68

(20,971 posts)
72. As a feminist who grew up Catholic (no longer for decades) I hate the Patriarchal Structure of the RCC...And.I can...
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 07:20 PM
Monday
still respect the good he did in other areas.

RIP Pope Francis.

hamsterjill

(15,764 posts)
41. I'm not Catholic, but I had a good sense about this man.
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 10:29 AM
Monday

He seemed to have genuine compassion. He looked so frail on the video yesterday. I think he held out for Easter.

I mourn his passing and wish him peace. I fear what may replace him.

NH Ethylene

(31,102 posts)
43. He was a truly remarkable man.
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 10:43 AM
Monday

I'm not even Christian, much less Catholic, but I have admired this man from the moment he was anointed pope.

He was unafraid of ruffling political feathers and he made a real difference in the world by demonstrating compassion for all people.

SpankMe

(3,432 posts)
46. Is it a coincidence that he dies just hours after meeting Vance?
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 11:01 AM
Monday

Pope and Vance meet. They shake hands or Vance receives blessing where pope touches him. Pope dies within a day after that, despite being well enough to offer a blessing from the balcony on Easter.

Francis was arguably the most liberal pope (by Roman Catholic standards) ever to hold the position. Libbing-up the world's Roman Catholics in opposition to the Trump agenda was a very real possibility.

I'm not saying that a chemical agent was discretely delivered to a compromised pope by a foreign official in the room. But, I wonder what a detailed toxicology report on Francis would show?

Again, I'm not suggesting this happened. But, is it a possibility? If a lib VP met a conservative pope in person, and that pope died within 24-hours, you just know that right-wing blogosphere would be lit up like a Christmas tree.

Sky Jewels

(9,099 posts)
47. Welp, time to put a big hat on top of the head of a penis-haver
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 11:08 AM
Monday

so he can continue to oppress women and keep the worlds largest grifting ring going!

Deep State Witch

(11,742 posts)
51. Earth Day
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 12:17 PM
Monday

Not only did he die on Easter Monday, but tomorrow is Earth Day. He was a great champion of climate action.

Marthe48

(20,504 posts)
52. R.I.P.
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 12:19 PM
Monday

I thought Pope Francis did more good than harm. Just like other world leaders, I didn't agree 100% of his opinions, but he kept the most vulnerable of people in the world in mind and recognized that some things need to change as he led the Catholic Church. He may have recognized and legitimized human rights that will be hard to shove back into the dark ages.

ancianita

(40,328 posts)
58. You don't agree with these, Pope Francis's major teachings and diplomatic actions?
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 01:38 PM
Monday
Francis made women full members of dicasteries in the Roman Curia.[3][4] He maintained that the Catholic Church should be more sympathetic toward members of the LGBTQ community, and stated that although blessings of same-sex unions are not permitted, the individuals can be blessed as long as blessings are not given in a liturgical context.[5] Francis was a critic of unbridled capitalism, consumerism, and overdevelopment;[6] he made action on climate change a leading focus of his papacy.[7] He was widely interpreted as denouncing the death penalty as intrinsically evil,[8] stating that the Catholic Church is committed to its abolition.[9] In international diplomacy, Francis criticized the rise of right-wing populism, called for the decriminalization of homosexuality,[10] helped to restore full diplomatic relations between the United States and Cuba, negotiated a deal with the People's Republic of China to define how much influence the Communist Party had in appointing Chinese bishops, and supported the cause of refugees. He called protection of migrants a "duty of civilisation" and criticised anti-immigration politics, including those of U.S. President Donald Trump.[11][12] In 2022, he apologized for the Church's role in the "cultural genocide" of the Canadian Indigenous peoples.[13] Francis convened the Synod on Synodality which was described as the culmination of his papacy and the most important event in the Catholic Church since the Second Vatican Council.[4][14][15]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Francis

Marthe48

(20,504 posts)
63. How about 95% plus or minus?
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 02:15 PM
Monday

Pope Francis made a statement sometime in 2017-2020 that I was disappointed in hearing. I had things going on in my life then that doesn't help my memory.

ancianita

(40,328 posts)
77. As far as women go...
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 07:38 PM
Monday
Francis convened the Synod on Synodality which was described as the culmination of his papacy and the most important event in the Catholic Church since the Second Vatican Council.


... of the ten in the synod, Francis appointed one cardinal, one archbishop and eight women.

electric_blue68

(20,971 posts)
78. Interesting 👍
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 07:45 PM
Monday

Hopefully there will be woem priests.

However there are renegade Women Priests Very interesting.

There was actually one in an organization I was a part of. Unfortunately I didn't know that till after a horrific criminal attack on her had her leave.

CNYHarris

(58 posts)
54. The last pope
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 12:39 PM
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I am a Catholic and won't accept the next pope, nor the organization from the Vatican.

I believed Pope Francis was too pro-Trump. The next anti-pope is going to be servant to Little Nero in Washington, will neither defend the defenseless nor the poor.

The Vatican of the next pope is going to accept payment in donations with money backed by bitcoin or trumpcoins or other 666 technology money.

The next pope - acceptance to Putin or Trump or bitcoin in refusing to take sides or positions. A wishy-washy pope of co-existence with evil. With abortion returning as the only "evil" of the Catholic Church. You are to be a single issue voter: abortion.

Rome was filled with abortions and gays. There were Jewish prostitutes that committed abortion during the era of Jesus. Mary Magdalene was labeled a Jewish prostitute by Pope Gregory, although many disagree she was the repentant woman. There was gay stuff in Rome for centuries. If Jesus wanted to, Jesus could have preached against gays and abortion 24/7.

Worse was what was tolerated, since Jesus was God, Jesus knew this was happening:

Tiberius had a scandalous reputation. He was a sexual predator (Dio, 58.22) who used his power to secure access to girls and boys. Dio parallels his moral failings with his strict enforcement of moral disciplines upon others.

https://ancientromanhistory31-14.com/home/tiberius/sex-and-the-emperor/

Namely, he trained several-year-old boys to play "fishes". Tiberius went into the water naked, and young boys dived around him and teased his thighs and phallus with teeth. The fun did not only end with biting, but also sucking on the penis of the ruler.

https://imperiumromanum.pl/en/curiosities/perversions-of-emperor-tiberius-on-capri/

Jesus never mentioned abortion, nor gays. The reference of millstone was about corrupting believers, which is what MTG and Trump do to believers.

swampthingdc

(9 posts)
55. sigh...
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 12:45 PM
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up to 1984 was ' so called xtian / catholic no less~
then since the late' 80's

WITH THEM: https://www.atheists.org
add
https://www.youtube.com/@AronRa/videos
; )

viva Floreedah sinconservativos con los ladrones de carajo y mentidas ~ ~

sdfernando

(5,679 posts)
57. While I consider myself a recovering catholic, I do recognize Pope Francis
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 12:53 PM
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as close to the embodiment of what a perfect christian should be as any Pope in my lifetime. I mourn his passing and hope the upcoming conclave will chose another Pope like Francis.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(121,904 posts)
61. I'm one who was raised Catholic but now am atheist. That said I had a lot of respect for Pope Francis.
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 02:03 PM
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In spite of my lack of faith in the existence of a higher power, my Catholic upbringing has a lot to do with why I am a liberal.

samnsara

(18,483 posts)
65. I am atheist but Im crying like a baby over his death..
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 02:40 PM
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..He was a GOOD man. Why cant the Universe take fucktrump instead??

Paladin

(30,214 posts)
76. I'm sure His Holiness would be kinder than me about this...
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 07:28 PM
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...but I am mortified and angered that he had to spend some of his final hours with a piece of garbage like J.D. Vance.

totodeinhere

(13,601 posts)
79. He did not go far enough with his reforms, but at least it was a start in the right direction.
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 07:46 PM
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RIP.

Shoonra

(600 posts)
81. It is as if Francis knew that his life was ending .....
Tue Apr 22, 2025, 04:12 AM
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And he powered his way through Easter Sunday, knowing he was using up the last of his life's energy, rather than become a vegetative patient dying slowly.

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