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BumRushDaShow

(151,126 posts)
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 12:48 PM Saturday

Vatican holds 'cordial' talks with Vance after criticisms of Trump policies

Source: Reuters

April 19, 2025 12:21 PM EDT Updated 25 min ago


VATICAN CITY, April 19 (Reuters) - U.S. Vice President JD Vance went to the Vatican on Saturday to meet senior Catholic Church officials who have been sharply critical of his administration's policies, in the first such in-person talks of the second Trump presidency. Vance, a Catholic who has clashed with Pope Francis over U.S. President Donald Trump's immigration crackdown, met with Cardinal Pietro Parolin, the Vatican's Secretary of State, and his chief deputy.

The two sides had "cordial talks" that included "an exchange of opinions on the international situation," according to a Vatican statement after the meeting. Vance and Parolin spoke "especially regarding countries affected by war, political tensions and difficult humanitarian situations, with particular attention to migrants, refugees, and prisoners," the statement read. Vance said in a statement that he and the cardinal had discussed Catholicism in the U.S., the issue of persecuted Christians in the world, and "President Trump's commitment to restoring world peace".

Francis, who is limiting his public appearances on doctors' orders as he recovers from double pneumonia, did not take part in the meeting. Vance is visiting Italy over the Easter weekend. The pope, Parolin and other Vatican officials have criticised several Trump administration policies, including Trump's plans to deport millions of migrants from the U.S. and his widespread cuts to foreign aid and domestic welfare programmes. "This visit takes place in a delicate moment," said Massimo Faggioli, an Italian academic at Villanova University who has followed the papacy closely. "This relationship with the U.S. is a very high priority right now for the Vatican."

Francis has called the Trump administration's immigration crackdown a "disgrace". Vance, who became Catholic in 2019, has cited medieval-era Catholic teaching to justify the immigration crackdown. The pope rebutted the theological concept Vance used to defend the crackdown in an unusual open letter to the U.S. Catholic bishops about the Trump administration in February, and called Trump's plan a "major crisis" for the U.S. "What is built on the basis of force, and not on the truth about the equal dignity of every human being, begins badly and will end badly," the pope said then.

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/vance-meets-vatican-officials-critical-trump-policies-easter-trip-2025-04-19/

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Srkdqltr

(8,275 posts)
1. Hes been a catholic for an hour and a half and he is telling the pope about something the church did centuries ago.
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 01:13 PM
Saturday

Geezzzz

BumRushDaShow

(151,126 posts)
2. Francis has had to deal with people like that
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 01:38 PM
Saturday

notably some RW loon Cardinals and Bishops here in the U.S., who he has summarily removed.

But what is more notable about him is that he was the first "non-European born" Pope in centuries. I.e., although his family was of Italian descent, he was born and raised in South America (Argentina) and has been aware of the whole "immigrant" situation, both during his lifetime but due to his immigrant father.

Srkdqltr

(8,275 posts)
3. Im sure he knows much more than we all do and he didn't go to the subsequent meeting.
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 02:07 PM
Saturday

He knows.

rsdsharp

(10,677 posts)
4. Since Vance likes medieval practices, perhaps Francis could bring back the inquisition
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 02:09 PM
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just for JD and his boss.

blue-wave

(4,626 posts)
6. I suspect
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 05:25 PM
Saturday

J.D.'s visit to Europe is all about the illegal war of aggression by Russia on Ukraine. Jake Broe mentioned in a recent video post that the Trump regime is attempting to pull European allies away from Ukraine. Europe is Ukraine's last hope to survive.

Trump also recently mentioned that the U.S. might back away from peace negotiations if one side is so unreasonable that peace is impossible. Gee, which country will they smear as being unreasonable? This is all a set-up to hurt Ukraine for Putin's benefit. I hope and pray Europe can see through the bullshit and has the strength to stand up to tyranny. There is no doubt in my mind Putin, if successful in Ukraine, will start an invasion of one or more other countries, likely within Trump's tenure.

LetMyPeopleVote

(161,888 posts)
7. The Pope meet with JD Vance this morning for a couple minutes to be kind and just to wish him a Happy Easter.
Sun Apr 20, 2025, 06:17 PM
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The Pope meet with JD Vance this morning for a couple minutes to be kind and just to wish him a Happy Easter.

Yesterday, the Pope skipped the official meeting and his 2nd in charge gave the wayward convert a lecture on what it means to have compassion.

This morning the ailing Pope had his speech on compassion and immigrants read to the world.

He didn't name names but it was clear he cares nothing for Vance and Trump.

God is not a fan of the Trump regime.

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