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BumRushDaShow

(151,125 posts)
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 03:47 AM Saturday

For now, Pentagon and DHS won't recommend that Trump invoke the Insurrection Act

Source: CNN Politics

Published 4:25 PM EDT, Fri April 18, 2025


Washington CNN — Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem will not recommend invoking the Insurrection Act in a memo the Pentagon and the Department of Homeland Security are preparing to send to President Donald Trump about the conditions at the southern border, multiple US officials familiar with the matter tell CNN.

The Insurrection Act is a 19th century law that would allow the president to use active-duty troops within the United States to perform law enforcement functions such as arresting migrants. Trump issued an executive order in January declaring an emergency at the southern border that ordered Hegseth and Noem to send him a report within 90 days about the conditions there, and advising whether to invoke the Insurrection Act to help obtain “complete operational control” of the border.

The deadline for Hegseth and Noem’s recommendation is Sunday, but the Pentagon and DHS are expected to send the memo with their findings to the White House next week, officials said.

Hegseth and Noem are expected to tell Trump that border crossings are currently low and that they don’t need additional authorities at this point to help control the flow of migrants, officials said. Migrant crossings at the US southern border have been under 300 a day, according to a Homeland Security official — a dramatic drop from recent years when unlawful crossings were well over 1,000 or more a day.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/18/politics/pentagon-dhs-wont-recommend-insurrection-act/index.html

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For now, Pentagon and DHS won't recommend that Trump invoke the Insurrection Act (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Saturday OP
Two Idiots Roy Rolling Saturday #1
Trump will likely do it anyway. no_hypocrisy Saturday #2
it's like, uh oh Skittles Saturday #3
I think Krasnov will kkmarie Saturday #7
There will be more cannings at DOD and DHS Trumpdumper Saturday #4
So the insurrectionist will declare Insurrection act. travelingthrulife Saturday #5
i thought congresss could only authorise this? AllaN01Bear Saturday #6
No. It's a power delegated by statute to the president. onenote Saturday #12
thanks AllaN01Bear Saturday #13
Key words..."FOR NOW" NotHardly Saturday #8
He will sit on it "for now" but whip it out StarryNite Saturday #10
But it's what he wants. He might do it anyway. louis-t Saturday #9
I think immigration was his excuse but to him it was StarryNite Saturday #11
This is bullshit fearmongering and posturing Akakoji Saturday #14
"Where are the Democrats calling them out on this shit?" BumRushDaShow Saturday #16
It just inspires patriotism. SupportSanity Saturday #15
We'd better nail him on espionage fast MadameButterfly Saturday #17

Roy Rolling

(7,279 posts)
1. Two Idiots
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 04:16 AM
Saturday

These are the two morons responsible for recommending the military mobilize against an insurrection?

Give me a fucking break.

Skittles

(163,560 posts)
3. it's like, uh oh
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 05:42 AM
Saturday

their primary qualification for their jobs is they are TRUMP WHORES.........Trump will not like this deviation from the boot-licking, not at ALL

kkmarie

(127 posts)
7. I think Krasnov will
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 10:20 AM
Saturday

That's how he'll respond to the Hands Off protests today. I believe he is capable and willing and salivating to invoke it. And I'm fearful he'll do it today during the protests.

Trumpdumper

(192 posts)
4. There will be more cannings at DOD and DHS
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 06:45 AM
Saturday

Instead of doing their jobs, Hegseth and Noem will focus on finding out who leaked this decision to the media. Another Night of the Long Knives is in the offing.

onenote

(45,133 posts)
12. No. It's a power delegated by statute to the president.
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 12:24 PM
Saturday

10 USC 253: Whenever the President considers that unlawful obstructions, combinations, or assemblages, or rebellion against the authority of the United States, make it impracticable to enforce the laws of the United States in any State by the ordinary course of judicial proceedings, he may call into Federal service such of the militia of any State, and use such of the armed forces, as he considers necessary to enforce those laws or to suppress the rebellion.

While invoking the Insurrection Act to allow the use of the military to perform civilian law enforcement activity is not a common occurrence, it is something that has been done multiple times in my lifetime when the use of military to supplement law enforcement is deemed necessary to suppress riots and/or looting. For example, both JFK and LBJ invoked it several times. The most recent example is GWBush invoking it to allow military to assist in suppressing the LA riots following the Rodney King beating.

It would be a stretch for it to be invoked in the absence of actual rioting/looting, but it wouldn't be unprecedented either.

louis-t

(24,263 posts)
9. But it's what he wants. He might do it anyway.
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 11:04 AM
Saturday

And as the worshipers say, you can't just ignore the unitary executive's wishes.

StarryNite

(11,505 posts)
11. I think immigration was his excuse but to him it was
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 12:05 PM
Saturday

always more about controlling the citizens who stand up to what he's doing. He will have his little Hegseth/Noem report and use it when he wants.

Akakoji

(283 posts)
14. This is bullshit fearmongering and posturing
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 03:59 PM
Saturday

They wouldn’t dare. Where are the Democrats calling them out on this shit?

BumRushDaShow

(151,125 posts)
16. "Where are the Democrats calling them out on this shit?"
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 04:57 PM
Saturday
Ranking Member Raskin’s Statement on Concerns Regarding Possible Invocation of Insurrection Act

Press Releases

Ranking Member Raskin’s Statement on Concerns Regarding Possible Invocation of Insurrection Act

Washington, April 18, 2025

Washington, D.C. (April 18, 2025)—Today, Rep. Jamie Raskin, Ranking Member of the House Committee on the Judiciary, issued the following statement addressing concerns that President Donald Trump may invoke the Insurrection Act as part of his administration’s escalating campaign against immigrants and U.S. citizens alike:

“I am being flooded with messages asking me to address rumors that Donald Trump may invoke the Insurrection Act of 1807 and deploy the National Guard to conduct arrests at the border or elsewhere on U.S. soil on April 20, 2025. We have no specific information indicating that this will happen. The anxiety arises from the fact that April 20 is the due date for a report from Trump’s cabinet on the state of the southern border called for in a presidential Executive Order which specifically mentions the Insurrection Act. But the Insurrection Act was designed for only the most extraordinary and dire circumstances, specifically when unlawful rebellion ‘make[s] it impracticable to enforce the laws of the United States in any State by the ordinary course of judicial proceedings’, and invoking it now would be an arbitrary, outlandish and unjustified exercise of power. It cannot be the case that this is ‘the most secure border in history’ and simultaneously that we need to invoke the Insurrection Act to address the crisis there.

“There is no factual predicate for Trump to invoke the Insurrection Act at the southern border or anywhere else in the United States. The courts are open and perfectly functional (much to Trump's dismay), state and local police continue to enforce the laws, and the Trump Administration routinely celebrates the safety and calm at the border.

“Trump might want to call out the troops because they look ‘tough’. That seems to have been his rationale for using military planes as props to fly immigrants to Guantanamo Bay and El Salvador’s brutal mega-prison. This is plainly no justification for triggering the Act and Trump would also essentially be admitting extreme policy failure. This can be the most secure border in history, or it can be an insurrection requiring the extraordinary use of the American military in our own society. But it certainly cannot be both.

“I urge the President to make the report public and to commit himself to protecting the civil rights and civil liberties of the people of the United States by keeping the military out of civilian law enforcement matters. We must stop playing cheap political games with immigration and we must restore the rule of law in America.”


(Raskin is the Ranking Member on the House Judiciary Committee)


Democrats Abroad - Take Action on Insurrection Act

Indivisible - Could Trump Invoke the Insurrection Act? What to Know—and How to Prepare

And even something back in December -

Democratic senators urge Biden to try to limit Trump's ability to use the U.S. military domestically

And this was back during 45's FIRST term -

Democrats introduce bill to rein in Trump’s power under Insurrection Act

Democrats have been on this since 45's FIRST term.

SupportSanity

(1,387 posts)
15. It just inspires patriotism.
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 04:45 PM
Saturday

Evidently, the timing isn't right.

Maybe on Trump's birthday. With the military parade.

It will be his birthday present.

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