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riversedge

(75,145 posts)
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 04:20 AM Friday

Rubio warns if it's not possible to end the war in Ukraine, US needs to 'move on'

Source: cnn




By Alex Stambaugh, Max Saltman, Victoria Butenko and Ross Adkin CNN

Updated 4:09 AM EDT, Fri April 18, 2025



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A US-authored outline of a peace plan had received an “encouraging reception” at the talks, according to a State Department readout, which did not give details on the outline. Rubio also spoke with Russian foreign minister Sergey Lavrov and conveyed the same outline, the readout said.

Speaking Friday, Rubio said he and Witkoff had come to Paris to “begin to talk about more specific outlines of what it might take to end the war” and whether or not this is a war that can be ended.

“If it’s not possible, if we’re so far apart that this is not going to happen then I think the president is probably at a point where he’s going to say we’re done,” he said.

“It’s not our war. We didn’t start it. The United States has been helping Ukraine for the past three years and we want it to end, but it’s not our war,” he added.

“President (Trump) has spent 87 days at the highest level of this government repeatedly taking efforts to bring this war to and end. We are now reaching a point when we need to decide and determine whether this is even possible or not. Which is why we’re engaging both sides.” ..................

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/18/europe/rubio-russia-war-in-ukraine-us-talks-intl-hnk/index.html

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Rubio warns if it's not possible to end the war in Ukraine, US needs to 'move on' (Original Post) riversedge Friday OP
...Meanwhile, Russia launched a missile attack on Ukraine overnight, hitting a residential neighborhood ,, riversedge Friday #1
WE NEED TO *MOVE ON* FROM TRUMP AND HIS BOOTLICKERS Skittles Friday #2
+100 InAbLuEsTaTe Friday #28
What, and let that Nobel Peace Prize slip from Trump's fingers no_hypocrisy Friday #3
..has spent 87 days mostly playing golf.. thomski64 Friday #4
When we defeat these fascists Bread and Circuses Friday #5
It's not possible to end a war?!?! TheFarseer Friday #6
Stinky is once again throwing in the towel like his stupid tariffs. Ray Bruns Friday #7
Little Marco is pathetic. LS_Editor Friday #8
Putin sends his love and kisses Lil' Marco.............. Bengus81 Friday #9
robot rubio strikes again. "this is too hard. they didn't listen on day one" Javaman Friday #10
ROBOT RUBIO Chipper Chat Friday #12
If it means Trump and his cronies stop meddling and conflating self-centred negotiations with Russia Emrys Friday #11
Wow. Secretary of State raises white flag. sinkingfeeling Friday #13
Way to deflect the stupid statements of your orange boss mdbl Friday #14
Rubio wants Americans to bend the knee to Putin bronxiteforever Friday #15
I'd like to see Little Marco "move on." Martin68 Friday #16
It's not our war bagimin Friday #17
Marco, you foolish boy, it ends when Russia withdraws completely. travelingthrulife Friday #18
Rubio is out of his league. He has neither the experience nor expertise to do the job asked of him. Firestorm49 Friday #19
Rubio lacks the skill to do the job, but I guess that's why he's in the cabinet of boneheads. Firestorm49 Friday #20
But It Is Our War ruet Friday #21
Just like they want Kilmar Abrego Garcia to move on. milestogo Friday #22
The EU is becoming a military might that will rival if not surpass the US. They are fed up with putin and have PortTack Friday #23
Now that we made a mess of things, we quit! Wonder Why Friday #24
Oh, it is possible to end that war. republianmushroom Friday #25
I'm not surprised atreides1 Friday #26
They've wanted to gift Ukraine to Trump's BFF Putin since day one. emulatorloo Friday #27
Oooohh, what a scary threat. maxsolomon Friday #29
Trump named him Little Marco. Passages Friday #30
....Trump is ready to throw in the towel and declare that he lost and isn't capable to fulfill that campaign promise. riversedge Friday #31
2023: Donald Trump to Nigel Farage, "If I was president I'd end that war in one day, it'll take 24 hours. ... riversedge Friday #32
A signal to the enemy .... Shoonra Friday #33
Putin will move on to Poland. Marcuse Friday #34
This message was self-deleted by its author blue-wave Friday #35
Well little Marco blue-wave Friday #36
Gee I thought this would be resolved in a day with a few phone calls, right Cheetolini?? Evolve Dammit Friday #37
Whereas if it's a war against brown people, we can't cut & run. Crowman2009 Friday #38
This is like those in the Revolutionary War being told that if it were impossible to end the conflict between the states SWBTATTReg Friday #39
Little Marco needs to move on. Martin68 Friday #40
The US isn't good at ending wars. twodogsbarking Saturday #41
24 Hours he said! Art of The Deal! GusBob Saturday #42

riversedge

(75,145 posts)
1. ...Meanwhile, Russia launched a missile attack on Ukraine overnight, hitting a residential neighborhood ,,
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 04:22 AM
Friday



...........Meanwhile, Russia launched a missile attack on Ukraine overnight, hitting a residential neighborhood of the city of Kharkiv. The strike killed one person and wounded 67 others, authorities said Friday, adding they feared more people could be trapped beneath the rubble of a damaged apartment building.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/18/europe/rubio-russia-war-in-ukraine-us-talks-intl-hnk/index.html

TheFarseer

(9,583 posts)
6. It's not possible to end a war?!?!
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 06:09 AM
Friday

Literally every war has ended. The Hundred Years War took a while but they wrapped it up.

Ray Bruns

(5,151 posts)
7. Stinky is once again throwing in the towel like his stupid tariffs.
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 06:31 AM
Friday

Last edited Fri Apr 18, 2025, 11:00 AM - Edit history (1)

Stinky is a loser extraordinaire.

Javaman

(63,652 posts)
10. robot rubio strikes again. "this is too hard. they didn't listen on day one"
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 07:42 AM
Friday

the easily programed sycophant.

Emrys

(8,589 posts)
11. If it means Trump and his cronies stop meddling and conflating self-centred negotiations with Russia
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 07:44 AM
Friday

with "peace" negotiations between Ukraine and Russia, I don't think anyone will shed many tears.

If it means no more aid from the US, at least everyone will know where they stand. How that would square with a prospective security and minerals deal is anyone's guess.

mdbl

(6,261 posts)
14. Way to deflect the stupid statements of your orange boss
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 09:08 AM
Friday

These people in the Dump administration are worthless as tits on a boar.

bronxiteforever

(10,352 posts)
15. Rubio wants Americans to bend the knee to Putin
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 09:29 AM
Friday

Rubio degrades himself daily and he expects us to accept his cowardice as a virtue.
We don’t.

Firestorm49

(4,347 posts)
19. Rubio is out of his league. He has neither the experience nor expertise to do the job asked of him.
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 09:48 AM
Friday

He should resign. This is the kind of idiotic “leadership” that guides this band of misfits.

ruet

(10,115 posts)
21. But It Is Our War
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 10:10 AM
Friday
Ukraine, Nuclear Weapons, and Security Assurances at a Glance

At the time of Ukraine’s independence from the Soviet Union in 1991, Ukraine held the third largest nuclear arsenal in the world, including an estimated 1,900 strategic warheads, 176 intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs), and 44 strategic bombers. By 1996, Ukraine had returned all of its nuclear warheads to Russia in exchange for economic aid and security assurances, and in December 1994, Ukraine became a non-nuclear weapon state-party to the 1968 nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty (NPT). The last strategic nuclear delivery vehicle in Ukraine was eliminated in 2001 under the 1991 Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (START). It took years of political maneuvering and diplomatic work, starting with the Lisbon Protocol in 1992, to remove the weapons and nuclear infrastructure from Ukraine.

milestogo

(20,332 posts)
22. Just like they want Kilmar Abrego Garcia to move on.
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 10:35 AM
Friday

So you are incarcerated in a foreign prison with no hope of ever seeing your family again. Get over it. Move on.

PortTack

(35,572 posts)
23. The EU is becoming a military might that will rival if not surpass the US. They are fed up with putin and have
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 10:50 AM
Friday

Drawn the line…it will end here period. They will not go back to Russia slicing up European nations. Putin has lost already, just too fucking stupid to stop. As with so many other things the US is becoming irrelevant.

And yes, as if we made some big contribution…FU rubio….you shitty little creep

republianmushroom

(19,546 posts)
25. Oh, it is possible to end that war.
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 11:32 AM
Friday

Tell Russia to go back to the original line agreed to and honor it 1990's treaty with Ukraine.

atreides1

(16,628 posts)
26. I'm not surprised
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 11:35 AM
Friday

He comes from parents who skipped out before Castro took over, the whole run away idea is likely in his DNA!!!

emulatorloo

(45,779 posts)
27. They've wanted to gift Ukraine to Trump's BFF Putin since day one.
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 11:42 AM
Friday

Marco, you aren’t fooling anybody.

maxsolomon

(36,378 posts)
29. Oooohh, what a scary threat.
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 12:53 PM
Friday

Fucking amateurs.

No one forget: MFer was going to end this war in a day.

Passages

(2,634 posts)
30. Trump named him Little Marco.
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 12:58 PM
Friday

I guess he was right on point. You'll keep sinking lower and lower as long as you can access power.

riversedge

(75,145 posts)
31. ....Trump is ready to throw in the towel and declare that he lost and isn't capable to fulfill that campaign promise.
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 01:24 PM
Friday

Who is old enough to remember when Trump said he could end the Russia Ukraine war in 24 hours?

according to Marco Rubio, Trump is ready to throw in the towel and declare that he lost and isn’t capable to fulfill that campaign promise.

Anyone surprised?



riversedge

(75,145 posts)
32. 2023: Donald Trump to Nigel Farage, "If I was president I'd end that war in one day, it'll take 24 hours. ...
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 01:29 PM
Friday



2023: Donald Trump to Nigel Farage, "If I was president I'd end that war in one day, it'll take 24 hours. It would be easy"

2025: Marco Rubio, "If it's not possible to end the Russian invasion of Ukraine then we're at a point where President Trump is at a point where he'll say we're done"

The way you end the Russian invasion of Ukraine is to stop Russia from invading Ukraine, not by taking away support from Ukraine that is trying to defend itself from Russia

Shoonra

(600 posts)
33. A signal to the enemy ....
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 01:32 PM
Friday

Rubio has revealed a devastating fact to the Russians: If the Russians don't quit bombing Ukraine for a while (maybe a month or two), then the US will pull out and cease to arm and assist Ukraine leaving it entirely at the mercy of the Russians.

This sort of inside information to an enemy was previously called treason but I am willing to believe this instance was done at Trump's instigation.

We used to defend free countries from invaders, and we used to oppose the Russians at every move. No more.

Response to riversedge (Original post)

blue-wave

(4,626 posts)
36. Well little Marco
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 02:49 PM
Friday

you're really doing a fine job of stabbing another ally in the back. Ukraine came to our assistance and was involved with troops in the Middle East for 18 years, 2003-2021. At one time, the Ukrainian contingent was listed as the third largest allied force in the region and yes, many Ukrainian warriors died there. How many troops did Russia send? Shame. Shame. Shame.

Crowman2009

(3,055 posts)
38. Whereas if it's a war against brown people, we can't cut & run.
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 05:45 PM
Friday


MAGA is always vehemently anti-war when it involves white people.

SWBTATTReg

(25,182 posts)
39. This is like those in the Revolutionary War being told that if it were impossible to end the conflict between the states
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 07:21 PM
Friday

and England, that we should move on.

What a dumba&&.

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