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UpInArms

(52,630 posts)
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 11:17 AM Thursday

American doctor receives email from immigration officials telling her to leave the country immediately

Source: NBC News

A doctor born in the United States says she received an email from federal immigration authorities demanding that she leave the country immediately.

Lisa Anderson, a physician from Cromwell, Connecticut, told NBC Connecticut on Wednesday that she recently received a letter from the Department of Homeland Security telling her, “It is time for you to leave the United States."

Immigration authorities have been pushing noncitizens to leave of their own volition, or “self-deport,” as the number of deportations remains at similar levels to last year.

But Anderson, 58, was born in Pennsylvania and is a U.S. citizen.

… snip …

Anderson has been carrying her U.S. passport on her at all times since receiving the email and is seeking an immigration attorney.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/doctor-email-immigration-leave-country-rcna201698



These are test runs … not “oopsies”
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American doctor receives email from immigration officials telling her to leave the country immediately (Original Post) UpInArms Thursday OP
If this can happen to her, no one is safe from Trump's "administrative errors." sop Thursday #1
The cretins that have been datamining everything have UpInArms Thursday #2
And throwing our data into a big pot, stirring, and extracting some targets. All while hallucinating... erronis Thursday #18
We have not been safe since Jan. 20, 2025 NotHardly Thursday #10
Her name is Lisa Anderson forgotmylogin Thursday #38
So now she has to pay for an attorney wolfie001 Thursday #3
Unfortunately, attorneys don't work with these people. Laws and courts don't matter to these thugs. /nt artemisia1 Thursday #40
Republicans always tell voters that government is the problem, it's fraudulent, it takes away your freedoms IronLionZion Thursday #4
they say that and then go out and make that happen LymphocyteLover Thursday #14
Fascism Iamscrewed Thursday #5
Yup DENVERPOPS Thursday #15
Why aren't the poeple who elected Krasnov, up in arms??? ffr Thursday #6
Yes, this is what they voted for until zorbasd Thursday #8
I met one of them on Monday UpInArms Thursday #9
Very sad story. Ignorance abounds. maxsolomon Thursday #34
Trump tells them it didn't happen and they believe it. travelingthrulife Thursday #16
They think it will only impact someone else IronLionZion Thursday #20
Serious question neeksgeek Thursday #7
Since this has NEVER happened before, UpInArms Thursday #12
They can request it IronLionZion Thursday #19
France is inviting American Scientists to relocate DBoon Thursday #37
It is an interesting question. If I can be exiled and treated by another county as a political refugee erronis Thursday #21
If we can choose which country, Denmark, Costa Rica, and New Zealand all sound nice IronLionZion Thursday #24
Even if caught they will say "Oops". They are testing the rules. GreenWave Thursday #11
Can we copy that email and send it to Trump? Asking for a friend. surfered Thursday #13
The national nightmare is just beginning. LudwigPastorius Thursday #17
Yup! Our leaders cannot save us without massive, sustained efforts by millions of grassroots taking direct action. Magoo48 Thursday #25
Expect to see some "swatting" coming up. People ratting on others to get revenge. erronis Thursday #22
I'm a citizen, born in Cleveland, Ohio. SidneyR Thursday #23
Email? Warpy Thursday #26
It aligns with the choice of email as a communication to all federal employees. live love laugh Thursday #29
C'mon, it's just one step above a Xitter post Warpy Thursday #31
Great 👍🏽 live love laugh Thursday #32
You're remarkably making excuses for the Trump administration muriel_volestrangler Thursday #35
New government: "You were notified. We have it right here!" NCDem47 Thursday #33
Oh, they must have meant Lisa AndersEn, MD maxsolomon Thursday #27
Since deportations aren't going fast enough Diraven Thursday #28
Republican media: Dr. receives deportation email by "mistake". live love laugh Thursday #30
"Your papers please? Yes, these seem to be in order, next time you might not be so lucky." dem4decades Thursday #36
My dad was born in Italy.I'll happily leave if Italy will have me Hassler Thursday #39
Maybe my reading comprehension is lacking. I dont understand this sentence: IcyPeas Thursday #41
I assumed the highlighted line means RandomNumbers Friday #42

UpInArms

(52,630 posts)
2. The cretins that have been datamining everything have
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 11:27 AM
Thursday

All of our information … no one is safe from what they can and probably will do with our personal and private (no longer) information

erronis

(19,139 posts)
18. And throwing our data into a big pot, stirring, and extracting some targets. All while hallucinating...
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 12:50 PM
Thursday

I use that term "hallucinating" because the big pot is the "AI" model built on our data and the extraction is similar to what you can frequently get when you ask one of the chat bots a question. Like "Give me the particulars on an individual who has sent mean messages about our fearless leader and has been in a progressive rally - especially from a blue state."

forgotmylogin

(7,816 posts)
38. Her name is Lisa Anderson
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 03:28 PM
Thursday

Last name starts with A. I think they're just spamming starting at the beginning of the alphabet. They're not even choosing foreign-sounding names.

wolfie001

(4,686 posts)
3. So now she has to pay for an attorney
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 11:33 AM
Thursday

The republican party is the enemy. Vile nazi scum. All of them. All are enablers of the bloated fraud felon.

artemisia1

(985 posts)
40. Unfortunately, attorneys don't work with these people. Laws and courts don't matter to these thugs. /nt
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 07:44 PM
Thursday

IronLionZion

(48,552 posts)
4. Republicans always tell voters that government is the problem, it's fraudulent, it takes away your freedoms
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 12:00 PM
Thursday

They have proven repeatedly that Republican run government is the problem.

There were less of these types of "administrative errors" or catastrophic plane crashes with the last president.

Iamscrewed

(113 posts)
5. Fascism
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 12:12 PM
Thursday

If this shit doesn't get stopped fast we're going to have much bigger problems than we have now.

ffr

(23,177 posts)
6. Why aren't the poeple who elected Krasnov, up in arms???
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 12:14 PM
Thursday

Why not?!

Is this what they voted for or are they too simplistic to understand the USA, land of free, home of the brave, is over with and it's due to them?

zorbasd

(388 posts)
8. Yes, this is what they voted for until
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 12:24 PM
Thursday

they come for them. You see, their goal is to have their government hurt others.

UpInArms

(52,630 posts)
9. I met one of them on Monday
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 12:25 PM
Thursday

A checker in dollar general …

First, I had to show my I’d to make my purchase … (am old) and laughed and said I only had to show my id for 2 things now … this and to vote ….

Then … (the shit starts without anything else said by me)

She tells me that her grandmother said we would never have a black president and she would be rolling in her grave …

I was taken aback as … wtf? A racist bitch is having the nerve to say this to a complete stranger!

I said, Obama was a much better president than what was currently in office ..

Then … she says … oh no .. TFG is getting all the criminal illegals out of the country … she has a friend in the Chicago DEA and … there is ISIS all over!

I responded with … you really need to get a brain … and started to leave …

She kept it up and all I could do was yell “fuck you, you stupid bitch” as I left

maxsolomon

(36,378 posts)
34. Very sad story. Ignorance abounds.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 02:27 PM
Thursday

Report that conversation to a manager. So inappropriate.

IronLionZion

(48,552 posts)
20. They think it will only impact someone else
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 12:55 PM
Thursday

by the time they wake up, it may be too late.

neeksgeek

(1,230 posts)
7. Serious question
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 12:22 PM
Thursday

If the US government tries to exile a citizen (exile is the word for deporting a citizen and telling them not to come back), can that person claim political asylum in another country?

IronLionZion

(48,552 posts)
19. They can request it
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 12:53 PM
Thursday

Russia took Edward Snowden and gave him citizenship. There may be a limited number of countries willing to accept American refugees.

DBoon

(23,664 posts)
37. France is inviting American Scientists to relocate
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 02:54 PM
Thursday
France's Aix Marseille University has earmarked millions of dollars to hire U.S. scientists. Université Paris Sciences et Lettres wants to recruit U.S. researchers who work in projects in areas targeted for cuts by the Trump administration, including climate science and gender studies, the N.Y. Times reports.


https://www.axios.com/2025/03/31/us-science-china-trump

A small subset of refugees, but a start.

erronis

(19,139 posts)
21. It is an interesting question. If I can be exiled and treated by another county as a political refugee
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 01:11 PM
Thursday

then I might try that tactic and hope somewhere in Europe will accept me...

IronLionZion

(48,552 posts)
24. If we can choose which country, Denmark, Costa Rica, and New Zealand all sound nice
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 01:18 PM
Thursday

but we're probably all going to that horrible prison in El Salvador.

LudwigPastorius

(12,252 posts)
17. The national nightmare is just beginning.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 12:47 PM
Thursday

Those Nazi pricks will get away with exactly as much as we let them.

Magoo48

(6,244 posts)
25. Yup! Our leaders cannot save us without massive, sustained efforts by millions of grassroots taking direct action.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 01:51 PM
Thursday

erronis

(19,139 posts)
22. Expect to see some "swatting" coming up. People ratting on others to get revenge.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 01:13 PM
Thursday

Have an ex-spouse you absolutely hate? Dial 1-GOV-TIP-LINE.

SidneyR

(143 posts)
23. I'm a citizen, born in Cleveland, Ohio.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 01:17 PM
Thursday

But if they want to deport me to Maidstone, Kent, in the UK, where my great-grandfather came from, I'll gladly go. And I won't miss this country at all. I'm sick of the constant angst and noise that waxes and wanes but is always there. I'll go if the UK will take me. Gladly.

Warpy

(113,237 posts)
26. Email?
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 01:59 PM
Thursday

It's very likely to be a crank email, administration assholes don't work this way.

However, it might be worth retaining a lawyer and be ready to have an injunction filed should this call represent a ramping up of terror tactics against random US citizens by this administration.

This story requires more information.

live love laugh

(15,192 posts)
29. It aligns with the choice of email as a communication to all federal employees.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 02:11 PM
Thursday

Normal administrations don’t work that way.

Nothing is normal now.

Warpy

(113,237 posts)
31. C'mon, it's just one step above a Xitter post
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 02:24 PM
Thursday

and the address could easily have been spoofed. No, just no.

Still, she's got a physician's income and can afford to get a lawyer on retainer just in case, at least until the email is proven to be a fake. It's what I'd do in her shoes, even though it's more likely to be some patient who wanted opiates and didn't get them rather than anything official from the administration run amok.

muriel_volestrangler

(103,478 posts)
35. You're remarkably making excuses for the Trump administration
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 02:30 PM
Thursday

You really think that a "some patient who wanted opiates and didn't get them" and then had the skill to imitate government emails just to get a doctor frightened is "more likely" than the continuation of malicious and/or incompetent threats from DOGE, ICE etc.?

Wow.

Or are you just being sarcastic across multiple posts?

NCDem47

(2,781 posts)
33. New government: "You were notified. We have it right here!"
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 02:27 PM
Thursday

Yeah, between all the 800 daily penis pills, Musk electricity, and PayPal demanding payment emails, the government now purposely wants to mix legit communications amongst a sea of spam.

maxsolomon

(36,378 posts)
27. Oh, they must have meant Lisa AndersEn, MD
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 02:01 PM
Thursday

the noted undocumented communist terrorist Antifa Hamas MS-13 physician from Heard and McDonald Islands.

Diraven

(1,361 posts)
28. Since deportations aren't going fast enough
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 02:07 PM
Thursday

I'm dreading that Trump and Homan will just throw their hands up and proclaim open season on hunting Hispanics, Hunger Games style. Since they're already hard at work nullifying all the rights of immigrants eventually it won't even be murder because they won't be people.

dem4decades

(12,669 posts)
36. "Your papers please? Yes, these seem to be in order, next time you might not be so lucky."
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 02:35 PM
Thursday

IcyPeas

(23,466 posts)
41. Maybe my reading comprehension is lacking. I dont understand this sentence:
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 08:46 PM
Thursday

From the article linked in OP. Also the use of the word "alien" ... I thought we got rid of that word. There's a video in the article too. She says the email is vetted.

"If a non-personal email — such as an American citizen contact — was provided by the alien, notices may have been sent to unintended recipients," the officials said. "CBP is monitoring communications and will address any issues on a case-by-case basis."

"To be clear: If you are an alien, being in the United States is a privilege — not a right," the officials added. "We are acting in the best interest of the country and enforcing the law accordingly."

The email to Anderson comes days after a Boston immigration attorney — who is also a U.S. citizen — received the same email from DHS, telling her to leave the country within seven days. The attorney, Nicole Micheroni, told MSNBC that as of Tuesday, federal officials had not followed up.

RandomNumbers

(18,547 posts)
42. I assumed the highlighted line means
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 01:24 PM
Friday

that if an illegal immigrant ( "alien" ) provided an email address on some form somewhere sometime, that ICE / CBP / whoever got hold of, and that email address was actually for an American citizen - "oh well" ... "mistakes may be made" ... that sort of thing.

It's possibly complete bullshit, but ...

I've seen occasions where people have recommended to give random email addresses in certain circumstances. Who knows what data the fascist regime can access on its targets? What they are saying here, I think, is that someone they "know" to be an "alien" had provide this email address somewhere, and that is why they sent the letter.

(except they weren't responding to this case specifically, just claiming this is the reason this kind of mistake could happen)

Okay that is what I think the line means, but the details are rather insignificant, IMO. The whole process is bullshit, I am sure it is unconstitutional (even though I am neither lawyer or constitutional scholar, but I've read the damn thing, unlike obviously some in this administration). The implications are horrific, particularly combined with the apparent ability of the administration to disappear someone without meaningful challenge.

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