He has a fall guy that we basically can't touch. How perfect

Just thought you should know.

EDIT: I figured it out. There was an extra character at the end of the link:

https://www.axios.com/2025/04/16/el-salvador-senator-mistakenly-deported-man

Hope this helps,

sad fact that @ least 25% of Americans really have no problem with what happened
Señor García...". I would say that at least 25% (the hard-core maga) are happy about what is happening. And about another third (the corporate Republicans, and the apathetic third who can't be bothered to vote) don't really care as long as they get their hamberders and sportsball.

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Garcia's existence is inconvenient.

... he's NEVER coming back to this country? My feeling is that he's been dead since the beginning of his illegal incarceration.

she spoke with such certainty.

They certainly don't want him comming back and describing what is going in those concentration camps.

should charge Donald Trump with the murder of her husband. Trump loses either way- he must produce a live husband or his corpse!

Lock the innocent away in a hellhole and throw away the key. I’m sure Christian Mike Johnson is fine with that.

6 million for the LIES!!

given the circumstances.

That there’s nothing we can do. We’re helpless, we’d like to help out but our hands are tied and we can’t do anything. Wo is us.

We demand proof of life from kidnappers, no?

Their deep recalcitrance over ANY contact with him really makes one think they don't want to have to say he died in custody.

From the photos he looks fine, I hope they're now pressured to bring him (and the others) back if only to put an end to the controversy. And the president of El Salvador is as big an authoritarian jerk with no human feelings as TFG.

These people are the embodiment of evil.

Link to tweet

I can't believe I'm having to ask it now!!!! But we live in treacherous and unusual times.

What is the next step beyond the United States? Can the family appeal to any other (world) organizations to step in and help?

I mean, if El Salvador is doing what Trump wants, and Trump won't let anyone see Garcia - what can be done?

The next steps to overthrow a possible dictator are dangerous to even speak.

I'm betting Putin has Kompromat on each of them, pays for the re-election, and it is not only their jobs they fear losing. They fear losing their families and their life and their family's lives.

It gets ugly. Do we fight like it is 1930's Germany or 1790's France?

I figured that since we PAID to have him and the others sent there, then it will have to be like a "hostage/ransom" situation and we PAY MORE to get him out. All of that would end up going on "behind the scenes".

I have no doubt that they didn't want him to ever tell what has gone on in that prison. I'm sure he would have been permanently silenced.

but given how many are apparently in there who they like to "show off", who are probably real criminals, I don't think he is dead.

I think this is more a "for show/tee vee power play" for both 45 and Bukele. It's like a sick game and they'll string it out for maximum effect, until they finally show how "benevolent" they are.

Hell - you have the epitome of a killer - Putin - who although psychologically damaged our "wrongly detained" citizens, didn't kill them outright. I.e, they still want to engage in trade with the rest of the world and something like is being suggested, would definitely make El Salvador an even worse pariah.

As a note - I did a quick search on Bukele and his father's side of the family is... wait for it... Palestinian (originally Christian and his father eventually converted to Islam and became an Imam). His mother's family is Catholic (apparently Hispanic).

Good catch on his dad being Palestinian, AND an Islamic Imam, no less! El Salvador is primarily Catholic. I wonder if that has something to do with why trump doesn't care about bringing him home.

Good thinking.

What is the next step beyond the United States? Can the family appeal to any other (world) organizations to step in and help?

What are the pressure points for this country? For example, we found out real fast what the pressure point is for the automotive industry when trump put the Chinese tariffs on.

What pressure point could make Bukele's life miserable?

A group of Democratic Senators and Congressmen should go before the cameras and tell Mr. Bukele in no uncertain terms he will pay for his crimes against humanity. Let him know when Democrats come back to power - and they will be back in power at some point - punishing Bukele, and all those involved with CECOT in El Salvador, will be their number one priority. Call it a threat, call it a promise, but make sure Bukele understands he's not going to escape justice for his many crimes.

Republicans do all kinds of shit with impunity, knowing full well Democrats never respond in kind when they're back in power. Democrats always take the high road. That has to change. Next time it has to be different. Democrats have to stop fucking around. Retribution and punishment are the only things these thugs understand.

We need our Democrats to fucking toughen up and decide that we're going to spank some people

Schumer needs to go to Thune and say no cooperation till we resolve this issue.

Personally I think that an appeal should be made to Pope Francis. Put the US bishops who supported Trump on the spot.

It throws them in the lot of sorry assholes who have been castigated by a pope.

At least it's something! Thanks.

WTF? Something very fishy going on here.

'Uh, no, we can't allow you to visit him at this time for XYZ excuses. Try back in a week, but then we won't be able to guarantee that you or anyone will be able to see him then either.'

Really, why would this be? It's total stonewalling to cover something else up.

Thanks to Senator Van Hollen for the attempt.

and El Salvador will have some questions to answer from the real United States.

it's inevitable when you have the kind of turnout you saw on April 5.
And April 19 is coming up shortly. If the turnout rivals or exceeds, it is major turning point. If legislators know we have their backs, they are more likely to take bolder moves.
I personally thought it very interesting that Bukele says he's going to open another detention center "for immigrants" from the U.S.
Wouldn't you know how tenuous dealing with the U.S. is from our history?

Does anyone thing Bukele is going to spend that money feeding and housing prisoners for years?
First stop was probably the showers.

I think this angle needs to be investigated. Why else would both Trump and Bukele have such a strong interest in this random-seeming man? Something smells rotten in this whole affair.

I am further speculating that Abrego Garcia has already been waterboarded and that is why nobody is being allowed to visit him.

Hitler did the same thing... Accuse LGBTQ, and Jews of the cause of their WWI problems. To "Make Germany Great Again" they "cleansed" the population of these people and sent them to concentration camps in Poland and eventually, death camps. Then he went after the Court system. Attacked Education. Then the Speech police started arresting anyone that said anything against the government. We all know the horrors of Hitlers rise...
What we are witnessing is a redo of 1938 - 1945 rise of Hitler, in real time....
Sending anyone they deemed a criminal, out of the country, into a maximum-security prison, without any due process is right out of Hitlers play book....

So, I ask again... How is this not Nazism?...

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If you do not learn from history, you are bound to repeat it - or something like that.

Overall I guess collectively "we" did not learn, but one thing I guess these REPUGs did not learn - is how it ended for Hitler and his Nazi's. I pray that - that part of history does repeat itself and we rid ourselves of these Nazi's part 2 completely this time not just seemingly.

I hope this post makes sense - I am so enraged while at he same time battling the feeling of defeat these days - These idiots may only care about their pick'em up trucks and hamberders, but it truly baffles me that they do not understand the concept that without due process, truth does not matter, and though they might be as lily white as brand new fallen snow, if the Orange Fuck decides they are Garcia - then they are Garcia! I do not believe that is such a hard concept to understand, and I would think as deplorable as even these Trumpers are, just basic self-preservation instincts would force them to understand - IDFK

✊FDT!