Sounds to me like she's punting.

but I don't think she.. or any other judge in this country, no matter how high in the hierarchy... has ANY idea how to deal with this lawless administration. If they did, they'd be working with lawyers to file charges of treason and immediate removal from office on trump, miller, his cabinet, musk, and many others (including at least SOME) elected officials.

Our entire constitution and legal world revolves around principles, processes, and standards. One of those standards is that everyone agrees on the outline of these. Up until now, men (because it's mostly been their domain) have been honorable enough to conduct themselves within the limits of these rules. Yes, some stretched them to get the lawless off free, but overall, the processes held.

Because of complacency or apathy or expectations, no judge has had to think of what the other side of this entails and what they would be required to do. It's like the military being given an unlawful order. Do you not think and just go with your training? Or do you actually act like a human, engage brain and critical thinking, and determine how best to achieve the objective?

I'd bet our law schools don't teach this kind of thing in class. The old adage we gave the Bush administration is appropriate here: "No one could have thought..." In fact, I think it's more than doubly appropriate to these times. The only way to bring Garcia home (in a seat or a body bag) will be by ACTION from the court... not just stern words. But our judges haven't been taught when and where and how this is appropriate, such that it's as second nature as filing a pleading or something. I'm not excusing them. They're suppose to have superior brain power and critical thinking skills... and really, how hard is this to see if we numbnuts behind our keyboard can see it? (gryn). Do it... dare trump to get SCOTUS involved once again... and demand the SCOTUS speak in plain language to the people of the United States... not some high flying legalese. Make them choose one side or the other on risk of losing their positions, either actually or through threat of force and harrassment.

I can't see how we'll hit any larger crisis point in the United States. True, trump will push the boundaries even further once he gets away with disappearing Garcia. But this is a certain control point for him. Fight him now, make him back himself up, and then take the fall when it's shown to be completely unconstitutional in any number of amendments. If not, prepare to be disappeared. I figure it won't take that long before DOGE has all the state election registrations and will start disappearing everyone who declared "Democrat"...

But I do think that the Judges can seek through the Bar (or whatever) to revoke the law licenses of the lawyers. That might be the first steps, in addition maybe can revoke the lawyers abilities to practice law in their courts.

A judge can throw just about anyone in jail for contempt, let’s get this started

*rump will run out of mouth pieces pretty quickly

The "larger crisis" is that we have a gang posing as a government. The Chief Traitor violated Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment in plain sight. But neither the opposition politicians nor the self-styled "mainstream" press are willing to call him Your Fraudulency.

https://marvindjones.blogspot.com/2025/04/the-basic-decision.html

Right now, she’s ordering expedited discovery, which the regime has been trying to stall all along. This is a necessary step for a finding of civil contempt, which she even referred to in her comments. Such a finding would be necessary for her to order the jailing of the appropriate authorities (which the president cannot pardon) until KAG is returned to the U.S., which is likely the only way to pressure the regime into complying.

Of course, we should realize that any such finding would instantly be appealed, and would likely cause me before SCOTUS. That is when we will see, once and for all, whether we are still a nation of laws or a banana(s) republic.

and not civil???

IMO the only way F47 can't invoke his pardon authority is if the matter is a state matter.

she will definitely issue once all these legal technicalities are worked through. Yes, it takes way to long, but she's made it pretty clear she's going to do the right thing - she just once to make sure once she issues the ruling, that it will stick.

And I've wondered before, but never thought to ask while I've been replying anywhere... on what grounds is it okay to disappear a person, through legal or extralegal means either one, to a foreign country's prison? Have we ever done this before... and I'm purposely not counting Guantanamo here because that part of the island is supposedly ours as leased. Isn't what he is doing, from top to bottom, illegal? "Capturing" these people... even setting up traps to trick them... is kidnapping in my book. But even more than that, when did we ever just shuttle people to jail in another country as standard behavior?

Would the "average Joe" off the street be counted as not having standing to file a case? I know no one will, and there are people higher up pursuing these avenues. But, I'm just wondering, since trump is using OUR tax dollars to do all this kidnapping and out of country prisons, wouldn't we necessarily have standing? My personal opinion is that we should be granted standing, but in this court system, it would be dismissed out of hand. As you can see, I've lost any hope I ever had toward justice in this country.

we already know they won't comply, so it should be interesting to see if she takes swift action.

Like my grandma always said, talk is cheap.

Stop playing games and make some strong immediate orders.

Yes Trump will ignore it, but at least she can do the right thing on her end.

And repeat, groundhog day.

Then shit will start to move forward when the dumbass Red States start to feel the pain and they finally wake the fk up (go woke -- LOL). T💩p is like a toddler testing just how far he can go.

the contempt order we will be certain there is no democracy.

no respect for the independence of the judiciary, no empathy, no honor.

the judiciary starts to throw some of those punk l;awyers into jail for contempt in an effort to jog their memories of those long ago constitutional law classes.

Bondi and Trump do not give a shit about a couple of lawyers sitting in a cell at the courthouse. They will just line up some more lawyers to throw into the breach.

And, because there are new lawyers on the case, they'll need a delay to catch up.

i suspect she will hold administration officials in contempt. its just a matter of how high she is willing to go.

because that ignorant man thinks a lawyer is a lawyer and doesn't recognize that there are specialties within law just like there are within medicine.

Second, jail has been used to good effect in the past to persuade reluctant witnesses and attorneys alike to repect the power of the judiciary. Without at least the threat of such consequences, a contempt charge is meaningless.

But, if there are consequences, they will not be suffered by Bondi or Trump. They have attorneys who can suffer the consequences, spend time in jail, lose their license to practice law, whatever. Bondi and Trump don't care about them.

That's just ridiculous.

They could take the attitude that hey we don't have to be there. So they don't own us completely yet.

for Trump and put him on the spot. Ask him, under oath, why he is ignoring the Court's order?

The Supreme Court has already held (twice) that a president is subject to subpoenas.

another week or so for motions, then another week or so for a court date for hearing. Then a few days to rule and another week or two for the court of appeals to rule on the DOJ appeal. Then a month or so for the SC to decide whether to take the matter or ..........woops!!! the current session ends in June only 8 or 10 weeks away. Well maybe in the fall term they'll take up the question. After all "Cash and Carry" Clarence probably has a roadtrip planned in that beautiful RV or perhaps a billionaire boot-licking session somewhere. The normal order of court business for the SC.

It's a done deal. Does not matter what any judge, it does not matter what the Supreme court says. America is an autocracy now. Judges will be ignored for awhile then they'll start being jailed. It's going to take We The People to stop it.

there is no "recall" authority permitted for federal office holders. It's basically a "state" thing, and even then, many states have no provision for a recall.

House of Representatives in their states?

Such a move could stunt the gerrymandering, increase the number of Ds in the House, and begin to give US a representative government.

Anyone have an answer?

THAT number is set by Congress, not the states. The last time this was done was in 1929 when the number was set to 435.

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What are you going to do judge ?
No one is above the law, Ha Ha Ha

trump is now appealing this order

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