I think the American citizens are getting tire of all this shit.

This is part of what Bannon referred to as "flooding the zone".

Most of these tariffs aren't even put into effect. It is mostly a smokescreen to take attention away from the more insidious parts of P2025 that proceed daily.

Remove the food imports that are healthy. Force the population to eat processed crap and then let us develop all kinds of issues so that they can keep us under their thumb and too sickly to even think about defying them.

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Treaties, agreements, contracts, rules in general. The US has lost all credibility and the rest of the world doesn't have to tolerate it. We are forcing other countries to work together and they will say no thanks to the US for decades if they are able.

We are a relatively "new" country compared to the rest of the countries around the world and nearly all have "been there done that" some time in their past histories. So those with a historical knowledge of their own pasts, are witnessing a variation of what they had gone through before (perhaps not in their lifetimes but as part of their country's path to the current era).

Their challenge is obviously "dealing with the now" and trying to position themselves for the short term, mid term, and long term with respect to dealing with us.

China said they’ve been around for a 1000 years and survived and the US as a government has been around for a lot less than that!

I read this book years ago about Marco Polo and him traveling to Asia called the Journeyer by Gary Jennings. It stayed with me all these years and thought how insignificant America is compared to other countries.

All the orange Hitler is doing is making us a third world nation and parish easy for conquest! And we become more comprised, weak and demoralized. But that said, we are going to fight the hell back and depose of these cretins who are trying to destroy our democracy and this country.

trying to bring back the "old U.S.S.R" that he grew up in. The breakup apparently also meant a loss of quite a bit of resources for what is now Russia. After the initial failure with Georgia, the Crimea offensive was an attempt to remedy that and if anything, that would probably be the last place they would give up after invading Ukraine should (only due to a miracle), some kind of peace agreement be reached.

Meanwhile we know all about the U.S.'s past "conquests" -



(And then the Spanish American War and those territories)

It's ridiculous because the U.S. is literally a euphemistic "gold mine" of land and resources, much of which one side wants to keep pristine and the other that wants to exploit.

We have a decent lot with almost no trees so little shade except for the buildings. We have 5 kinds of tomatos and the ones that weren;t identified are huge - both the unidentified cherry tomatoes and the very large variety all growing in one giant pot. Shocked that we've already have 3 ripe cherry tomatoes and bet there are more to pick today.

It's just not hot enough in our yard. Too many trees, on an eastern slope, in the PNW. The crop, what little there is, doesn't come in until Labor Day.

I'll still be buying tomatoes.

check with your town.

TBH, I'm just not up for that level of commitment.

That's why we have trade. So that you can sell your salmon and buy tomatoes. Or sell your timber and buy pineapples. Or import coffee beans and process and sell coffee.

For some reason a lot of Americans decided this is a bad system.

Our old house was on a heavily wooded lot when we first moved in and there was only a small place to grow anything that needed full sun and that was where there was an above ground pool! When the kids got older and wanted to go to the community pool (4 doors down and swim in the olympic sized pool instead, we got rid of that and planted several tomatos and 2 pepper plants. As as a few of our trees aged out and became dangerous (very large oak trees) we had to take some of them down. It totally changed the space and then we could grow lots of tomatos and peppers, so it was really good for them. Not good for our orchids though. Like most things in life, it is a tradeoff.

One of the biggest complaints from those living in the PNW. Not enough heat (although having a long growing season). Would probably need to grow them in some kind of greenhouse or hoop house to have some heat build-up.

to not have sweltering summers. if it's over 90 degrees more than 4-5 days people start whinging non-stop.

although for gardeners, it is one of those "cruel" areas that teases "sub-tropical" until suddenly the "trough from the Arctic" descends down to take out all those plants.

I have been to the Seattle area (and took a side trip up to Vancouver), so saw all the conifer forests. It just seems too "Scotland" though (with the million miles and hour wind storms during certain times of the year hitting the cliffs).

They're just starting to pop up.

Even if you only have a patio or balcony, plant tomatoes in pots or the upside down hanging kind.

then the ketchup is made from "HEINZ".

(although not "made out of John specifically, a great great Republican by the way, the best, bigly" )

Shouldn't the Warrior for Healthy Eating be screaming in the Oval Office about all the ways Trump is working to make poor people die of scurvy?

Yeah, not holding my breath that RFK embarrassment will fight tariffs on produce.

Started from seed, of course. I have 4-6 of each variety.

PNW, surrounded by tall fir trees but my garden area has just enough light to get a decent production.

I have some micro tomato plants that ive grown indoors this winter. I probably won't do that next winter, as my greenhouse needs a trial run. I have power out there, so the ceramic heater will keep things warm. We will see!

in the meantime, I'm hoping to be drowning in tomatoes by late June at the latest.

I have 8 sungold starts.

but another wonderful cherry is "Snow White". Sweet as sugar. When my niece was a toddler, she literally craved them!

Killing the auto and aircraft industry wasn't enough?
We need a new word. Fuck you just isn't enough.
'Eat shit and die' was an oldie but goodie.