White House insists iPhones will be US-made - but Apple calls it a non-starter
Source: The Guardian
Wed 9 Apr 2025 12.07 EDT
Last modified on Wed 9 Apr 2025 21.30 EDT
The White House is insisting that Donald Trumps vision of Apples flagship iPhones being manufactured in the US will come to fruition, despite assertions from analysts and the company itself that it would not be possible.
The press secretary, Karoline Leavitt, told reporters during Tuesdays briefing that the president believed Apples recently announced $500bn investment, as well as increasing import costs sparked by his trade tariffs, would encourage the company to ramp up manufacturing in the US.
He believes we have the labor, we have the workforce, we have the resources to do it. If Apple didnt think the US could do it, they probably wouldnt have put up that big chunk of change, she said. Trump doubled down on the claim on Wednesday, posting to his Truth Social network that: This is a great time to move your company into the US, like Apple, and so many others, in record numbers, are doing. Zero tariffs, and almost immediate electrical/energy hook ups and approvals. No environmental delays.
The problem, according to experts, including Apples chief executive, Tim Cook, and his predecessor, the late Steve Jobs, is that the US does not have the workforce of other nations where the vast majority of its electronics are currently manufactured, such as China, which makes about 85% of iPhones, India and Vietnam.
Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/09/trump-apple-iphones-made-in-usa

LiberalArkie
(17,991 posts)just a dollar a day and no benefits.
sop
(13,802 posts)BootinUp
(49,652 posts)after destroying it first.
IronLionZion
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BumRushDaShow
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Watchfoxheadexplodes
(3,539 posts)I had them all out in size and color coordinated 😔
SomewhereInTheMiddle
(499 posts)Last edited Fri Apr 11, 2025, 03:13 AM - Edit history (1)
It would be funny if Apple or another phone company build phones in the US and demonstrated the cost difference between US built and foreign built.
Building artisanal phones in the US would lose the advantages of economies of scale as well as paying the higher labor and other costs.
No company would be willing to build the large-scale facilities in the US knowing the final cost per unit would be too hight to compete, so we'll likely never see a direct cost comparison.
Still, would MAGA be willing to pay the high cost of a "Made in the USA" phone?
mopinko
(72,300 posts)i know this- my ins company paid twice as much for my 1st cpap as i did for my 1st iphone at about the same time.
medical equipment has a much smaller market, and a lot of it is made in china. but i think there r comparable products. is an ultrasound machine as complicated as my phone?
thesquanderer
(12,575 posts)Quoting a speech he gave in China...
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The products we do require really advanced tooling, and the precision that you have to have, the tooling and working with the materials that we do are state of the art. And the tooling skill is very deep here. In the U.S., you could have a meeting of tooling engineers and Im not sure we could fill the room. In China, you could fill multiple football fields.
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The vocational expertise is very very deep here, and I give the education system a lot of credit for continuing to push on that even when others were de-emphasizing vocational. Now I think many countries in the world have woke up and said this is a key thing and weve got to correct that. China called that right from the beginning.
So basically, the U.S. doesn't have what it needs to produce iPhones in quantity, no matter HOW much you're willing to pay to make it. The people and the skill sets aren't here. Now, maybe if we accepted a lot more immigrants...

Simply saying "we'll just pay more for labor, and then we can make it here" doesn't solve these problems.
Historic NY
(38,867 posts)Remember the army of millions and millions of human beings screwing in little screws to make iPhones? That kind of thing is going to come to America, Lutnick said.
Its going to be automated and great Americans the tradecraft of America is going to fix them, is going to work on them.
Historic NY
(38,867 posts)OAITW r.2.0
(30,041 posts)It always amazes me how focused the Chinese workforce is on doing repetitive assembly work. The hand/eye coordination is something to see in action. Most Americans could do this for about 15 minutes before they'd say "Screw this, I'm outta here". If Apple were to build in the US, they'd have to robotize almost the entire assembly process. Don't see that happening.
The US market is pretty well saturated with IPhones anyways. The big growth markets are in India, SE Asia, and Central/South America. I wouldn't expect this administration to understand this, though.
Bengus81
(8,709 posts)I doubt they want to do that job at that pay but are essentially forced to.
OAITW r.2.0
(30,041 posts)conditions. Sure, there are a lot of shitty factories that treat their labor force terribly...but the more enlightened ones treat their labor force much better because they value retaining their workers who are already trained/
Historic NY
(38,867 posts)The women working the sewing machines, were machines themselves. Mostly older 2nd gen immigration stock variety of nationalities. I recall most like the firehouse bingo ladies (many were) they had their charms on their small work spaces, stacks of pillows to sit on. We made a variety of good but most those travel bags from various airlines around the world.
I used to wheeled pallet of cut materials to keep them stocked. They sure kept me busy.
They were paid piece work. We had a few more places in town that made pocketbooks, coats, and various other thing including perfumes.
Many of my aunts worked in factories from clothes to nuts, bolts, and fasteners. They brought in the little extra income so we could have big family meals and get togethers. Granted todays generations wouldn't do the work, but there are people coming here that would. Pretty soon we will be deporting them and the future for US based manufacturing . Even with automation, there is fit and finish work to be done.
dweller
(26,439 posts)Translation: American iPhones wont turn on
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twodogsbarking
(13,414 posts)Lots of other shit.
Javaman
(63,652 posts)jgmiller
(542 posts)Even if Apple only paid minimum wage to US workers doing the same job that would more than double the labor cost of the iPhone. Once you factor in SS taxes and other things like health care, safety, etc. The math does not add up even if you assume the component prices stay the same.
JCMach1
(28,614 posts)Apple is being disingenuous here. That don't want to do it, nor do the want to skip out on the cheap AF FoxCon labor.
Igel
(36,719 posts)[Our] products require really advanced tooling. The precision that you have to have in tooling, and working with the materials that we do, are state-of-the-art, and the tooling skill is very deep here.
In the US you could have a meeting of tooling engineers, and Im not sure we could fill the room. In China you could fill multiple football fields.
Probably requires knowledge and effort, though, so the average class size would be < 1.
tavernier
(13,640 posts)to replace my old eight model. It was time and I wanted to get it done before it would cost me triple the price.