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BumRushDaShow

(151,141 posts)
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 05:15 AM Apr 10

Trump administration accused of 'market manipulation' with tariff reversal: 'WTF! Who's in charge?'

Source: The Independent

Wednesday 09 April 2025 23:04 BST


Donald Trump told the world to “be cool” as his sweeping import taxes took hold, tanking global markets and sending shockwaves through the U.S. economy. Then, minutes after the opening bell on the New York Stock Exchange, Trump announced: “THIS IS A GREAT TIME TO BUY!!!” Four hours later, the president reversed course.

He paused and lowered tariffs on goods from most nations for 90 days while raising tariffs on imports from China to 125 percent. Markets soared. White House officials — who just one day earlier said Trump would never back off — said “this was his strategy all along” and “the art of the deal” at work. Social media erupted with accusations that the president played a reverse “pump and dump” scheme with the American economy: driving stock prices down only to buy them up before prices rise again.

Democratic Senator Adam Schiff is calling for an investigation into insider trading. Trump’s surprise turn on Wednesday appeared to be news to the administration’s own trade representative, who was in the middle of testifying to a House committee, deflecting allegations that the president purposefully manipulated the markets.

“If you came here knowing that … these tariffs were going to be turned off, why didn’t you include that in your opening statement? Why didn’t you reference that in your testimony?” asked a furious Nevada Democratic Rep. Steven Horsford. “I don’t disclose my conversations with the president, sir,” trade representative Jamieson Greer replied.

Read more: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-market-manipulation-tariffs-b2730542.html

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Trump administration accused of 'market manipulation' with tariff reversal: 'WTF! Who's in charge?' (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Apr 10 OP
Stock future tanking at the moment. madaboutharry Apr 10 #1
Yep..the tariff on China isn't paused, it's 125%. That market rally was BS. Bengus81 Apr 10 #9
The are lying ... they floated this on the 7th of April ... UpInArms Apr 10 #2
I was sitting next to my iPad and CNBC put out that "90-day" possibility as a breaking news banner BumRushDaShow Apr 10 #3
Funny how this is exactly what they did UpInArms Apr 10 #4
Yup. Coincidence, eh? BumRushDaShow Apr 10 #6
Celebrating their windfalls in the Oval Office jmbar2 Apr 10 #5
Can't wait to see how much money trump made off this blatant maneuver. Paladin Apr 10 #7
He's fucking insane! 2naSalit Apr 10 #8
Who is in charge? A felon. That is why you do not put twisted crooks in the White House. travelingthrulife Apr 10 #10
Glad I'm not in stocks right now mdbl Apr 10 #11
Unfortunately BumRushDaShow Apr 10 #12
Very true. My 401k was also there until a few years ago. mdbl Apr 10 #13
Well the NY state pension fund had been planning to sue Muskrat BumRushDaShow Apr 10 #15
Tesla isn't that far away from retrenching back to the pps before the PUMP Bengus81 Apr 10 #14
Not to mention that all the stocks for the companies run by techbros at the inaugural are in the red. Crowman2009 Apr 10 #16
Oh, NewMax stock is down 45+% from it's peak! Crowman2009 Apr 10 #17
Recommended. H2O Man Apr 10 #18
This market is no longer free and independent of manipulation. It's obviously subject to the whims of the monster SWBTATTReg Apr 10 #19
Trump's obviously not a genius, but the guy knows what he is doing - TBF Apr 10 #20
It's studied criminality. colorado_ufo Apr 11 #25
Schiff always does the right thing flamingdem Apr 10 #21
Trump will cause more market turmoil in the near future thought crime Apr 10 #22
Eloon Market Manipulation ZERTErYNOthe Apr 10 #23
k and r nt orleans Apr 10 #24

Bengus81

(8,709 posts)
9. Yep..the tariff on China isn't paused, it's 125%. That market rally was BS.
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 08:40 AM
Apr 10

But it made a lot of people rich from insider trading. Last time I checked Walmart and most of the crap on Amazon all come from China.

And yeah...the DOW tanking this morning.

UpInArms

(52,635 posts)
2. The are lying ... they floated this on the 7th of April ...
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 06:50 AM
Apr 10

Pictures are available

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2025/apr/08/tweets/trump-hassett-tariff-pause-stock-market-rally-x/


X posts
stated on April 7, 2025 in posts on X:
Says Kevin Hassett, National Economic Council director, said, “Trump is considering a 90-day pause in tariffs for all countries except China.”

An electronic display shows financial information on the floor at the New York Stock Exchange in New York, April 7, 2025. (AP)

…snip…

X accounts significantly exaggerated a noncommittal response from National Economic Council Director Kevin Hassett about the possibility of a 90-day tariff pause. CNBC anchors repeated the unconfirmed information and later aired a correction.

The White House X account called the speculation "fake news."

Searching Google and the Nexis news database, we found no credible reports that the Trump administration ever publicly considered a 90-day tariff pause.

BumRushDaShow

(151,141 posts)
3. I was sitting next to my iPad and CNBC put out that "90-day" possibility as a breaking news banner
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 07:03 AM
Apr 10

after which the market shot up, with a new CNBC breaking banner in ALL CAPS about the sudden market swing. And then eventually the market dropped again as it was apparently claimed to have been a "false rumor". Then came finger-pointing between CNBC and Reuters.

How a false X post about pausing tariffs led to multitrillion-dollar market swings

Reuters Retracts Bogus Report That Trump Was Considering Tariffs Pause

UpInArms

(52,635 posts)
4. Funny how this is exactly what they did
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 07:34 AM
Apr 10
Says Kevin Hassett, National Economic Council director, said, “Trump is considering a 90-day pause in tariffs for all countries except China.”

Paladin

(30,216 posts)
7. Can't wait to see how much money trump made off this blatant maneuver.
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 08:00 AM
Apr 10

As usual, he's not even trying to conceal his naked greed.

mdbl

(6,269 posts)
11. Glad I'm not in stocks right now
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 10:21 AM
Apr 10

I am sorry for those that are. If I were you, I would get a class action lawsuit going against the Pump and Dump Administration.

BumRushDaShow

(151,141 posts)
12. Unfortunately
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 10:27 AM
Apr 10

you have people (notably those working for municipal/county/state/federal government entities, but also other non-governmental businesses) whose money is in pension funds, some of which includes stocks).

mdbl

(6,269 posts)
13. Very true. My 401k was also there until a few years ago.
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 10:30 AM
Apr 10

One of the few times I made a move that kept me from disaster. I am usually on the losing side.

BumRushDaShow

(151,141 posts)
15. Well the NY state pension fund had been planning to sue Muskrat
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 12:35 PM
Apr 10
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143431196

-due to the holdings of Tesla stock that they have in the funds that have lost quite a bit of value due to his malfeasance and absentee status.

And this was BEFORE the market gyrations!

Bengus81

(8,709 posts)
14. Tesla isn't that far away from retrenching back to the pps before the PUMP
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 12:21 PM
Apr 10

It only needs to tank another $8. Down $30 right now.

Crowman2009

(3,058 posts)
16. Not to mention that all the stocks for the companies run by techbros at the inaugural are in the red.
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 01:12 PM
Apr 10

They thought the Il Orange Duce was going to shower them with gold, but it turns out that it was just golden showers.

H2O Man

(76,664 posts)
18. Recommended.
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 03:52 PM
Apr 10

Thank you for this. It is essential that people understand what is happening, and this is exactly the type of information needed.

SWBTATTReg

(25,182 posts)
19. This market is no longer free and independent of manipulation. It's obviously subject to the whims of the monster
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 04:02 PM
Apr 10

in the WH. So how can anyone be sure that the gains and/or losses are truly valid, that normal stock market patterns/movements are in fact valid and true? Don't invest in the markets. You would be playing into the hands of these thugs and could lose everything, w/o a valid reason other than the fact you're caught on their wrong side.

The markets need to adopt immediately that when manipulation like this happens, the markets need to immediately close down, and all trades timed at and after tRUMP's announcements backed off.

TBF

(35,080 posts)
20. Trump's obviously not a genius, but the guy knows what he is doing -
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 05:09 PM
Apr 10

and is taking the majority of the Supreme Court along on the ride. IDK what recourse Schiff has against this, but I'm glad he's trying to fight. At the rate this is going none of us will have anything left in our portfolios.

thought crime

(160 posts)
22. Trump will cause more market turmoil in the near future
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 06:03 PM
Apr 10

Next time, how many people will buy when he tells them to?

We now live in a "command economy". Trump calls all the shots. How long can this go on?

ZERTErYNOthe

(258 posts)
23. Eloon Market Manipulation
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 06:44 PM
Apr 10

Well before the last election Musk was accused of market manipulation, around the time of his twitter acquisition, and before. He was sued by "investors who claim that Elon Musk's repeated attempts to buy Twitter Inc. in 2022 were an effort to manipulate the company's stock value.". He refused to give a deposition. There were further accusations during and after the purchase. This is in addition to the previous SEC lawsuit against Must for market manipulation.

Leading up to the last election, Musk said to Tucker Carlson "If Trump loses the election, then consider me gone. How many years do you think I will be in jail? Will I be able to see my children? I don't know.'.

He confessed to Tucker that he had a LOT of fear that something could come to light if Trump didn't win.

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