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BumRushDaShow

(151,126 posts)
Thu Mar 13, 2025, 08:38 AM Mar 13

Wholesale price measure was flat in February, compared with expected increase

Source: CNBC

Published Thu, Mar 13 2025 8:36 AM EDT | Updated 12 Min Ago


Wholesale prices were flat in February providing some more welcome news on inflation amid tariff fears, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported Thursday.

The producer price index, considered a leading indicator for pipeline inflation pressures, showed no gain for the month after jumping an upwardly revised 0.6% in January, seasonally adjusted figures showed. Economists surveyed by Dow Jones had been looking for a 0.3% increase.

Excluding food and energy, core PPI decreased 0.1%, also against an estimate for a 0.3% rise and the first negative reading since July. Core prices excluding trade services showed a gain of 0.2%, also below a 0.3% estimate. Stock market futures pared losses following the report while Treasury yields remained higher.

The report comes a day after the BLS reported that the consumer price index rose 0.2% for February, putting the headline inflation rate at 2.8%, a slight easing from January and some encouraging news at a time when markets are concerned over the impact that President Donald Trump’s tariffs will have on costs. Whereas the CPI measures what consumers pay at the register for goods and services, the PPI is a gauge of final demand prices that producers get for their products.

Read more: https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/13/ppi-inflation-report-february-2025-.html



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PPI for final demand unchanged in February; goods increase 0.3%, services decline 0.2% # BLSData https://bls.gov/news.release/ppi.nr0.htm
8:31 AM · Mar 13, 2025


They were all so busy gawking at the 200% tariff threat that they were ALL late putting out this simple number.

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Published Thu, Mar 13 2025 8:36 AM EDT | Updated Moments Ago


Wholesale prices were flat in February providing some more welcome news for inflation amid tariff fears, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported Thursday.

The producer price index, considered a leading indicator for pipeline inflation pressures, showed no gain for the month after jumping an upwardly revised 0.6% in January, seasonally adjusted figures showed. Economists surveyed by Dow Jones had been looking for a 0.3% increase.

Excluding food and energy, core PPI decreased 0.1%, also against an estimate for a 0.3% increase. Core prices also excluding trade services showed a gain of 0.2%. Stock market futures pared losses following the report while Treasury yields remained higher.

The report comes a day after the BLS reported that the consumer price index rose 0.2% for February, putting the headline inflation rate at 2.8%, a slight easing from January and some encouraging news at a time when markets are concerned over the impact that President Trump's tariffs will have on costs.



Published Thu, Mar 13 2025 8:36 AM EDT | Updated 2 Min Ago


Wholesale prices were flat in February providing some more welcome news for inflation amid tariff fears, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported Thursday.

The producer price index, considered a leading indicator for pipeline inflation pressures, showed no gain for the month after jumping an upwardly revised 0.6% in January. Economists surveyed by Dow Jones had been looking for a 0.3% increase.

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Published Thu, Mar 13 2025 8:36 AM EDT


The producer price index was expected to increase 0.3% in February, according to the Dow Jones consensus forecast.

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Bernardo de La Paz

(54,818 posts)
1. That is Biden killing inflation. tRump fuckups haven't begun to bite much yet. They will. He will own it.
Thu Mar 13, 2025, 08:46 AM
Mar 13

Tariffs have only just been enacted against China in February (10%) and again in March (jacked up to 20%). Tariffs against Canadian metals just two days ago.

Government job cuts have started slowly but are gaining speed. It takes time for such things to ripple through the economy. If a sandwich shop is dependent on those lost employees buying lunch, it can be 2, 3, 4 months before it actually folds.

Low-wage labour supply is smaller by a bit already, but could get a lot smaller.

Stagflation is a real possibility.

NoMoreRepugs

(11,227 posts)
2. IF the numbers are in fact accurate they at best can only be described as a pause maybe?
Thu Mar 13, 2025, 08:47 AM
Mar 13

Trumpism is after all - all about misinformation supporting their actions.

Bengus81

(8,706 posts)
5. Yeah well...I wish I could "exclude" food and energy from my weekly/monthly totals
Thu Mar 13, 2025, 10:36 AM
Mar 13

Most of the rest of the crap I can do without or cut way way back.

progree

(11,834 posts)
6. GRAPHS (they provide so much additional perspective).
Thu Mar 13, 2025, 12:18 PM
Mar 13

Last edited Thu Mar 13, 2025, 03:17 PM - Edit history (5)

I annualize them all to be easy to compare to each other, and to compare to the FED's 2% goal. I use the actual index values rather than the one-digit changes that are commonly reported in the media. Links to the data are with the graphs.

ALL the numbers are the seasonally adjusted ones

The "1 month" number is the change from January to February expressed as an annualized number.

The "3 month" number is the growth over the last 3 months (and then annualized). It is calculated based on the change in the index number between the latest one and the one 3 months previous. e.g. if the latest index value is 304 and the one 3 months previous is 300, then the 3 month increase is 1.333333%
. . . (304/300 = 1.01333333 => [subtract 1 and multiply by 100%] => 1.333333%)
Annualized, it is 5.4%
. . . (1.01333333^4 = 1.0544095 => [subtract 1 and multiply by 100%] => 5.44095% => 5.4%).
. . . Most people just multiply the 3 month increase by 4 to annualize it: 1.333333%*4 = 5.333333% => 5.3% which isn''t technically correct (it leaves out compounding) but it is close for small percentage changes.

"Regular" is the "headline" number that has "everything"

"Core" is the regular with food, energy, and trade services removed (The Fed prefers this as a basis for projecting FUTURE inflation. Backtesting has found this to be true. ).

WHOLESALE INFLATION (PPI - the Producer Price Index)

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/ppi.nr0.htm

As for which core PPI measure, since the BLS highlights the one below (without food, energy, and trade services) in its reporting (as opposed to the one without food and energy), then I guess I should do likewise. Trade services bounce around a lot from month to month, so I think excluding them from a core measure is the right thing to do.

To summarize:

Latest 3 months average annualized: Regular PPI: 4.3%,   Core PPI: 3.6%
Latest month annualized: (February over January): Regular PPI: -0.2%,   Core PPI: 2.5%


CORE PPI (excluding food, energy, trade services) through February that came out 3/13/25:
CORE PPI (seasonally adjusted) http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/WPSFD49116



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Regular PPI through February that came out 3/13/25 ( includes "everything" ):
Regular PPI (seasonally adjusted) http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/WPSFD4



If we claim February as being part of the Biden economy, then whose economy does December and January belong to?

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If one doesn't believe my graphs, one can generate their own from these links:
CORE PPI (seasonally adjusted) http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/WPSFD49116
Regular PPI (seasonally adjusted) http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/WPSFD4

For whichever link you want to check, click on the link,
near the top right side is "More Formatting Options". Click on that
On the left side of the page that appears, click on these checkboxes:
Original Data Values, 1-Month Percent Change, 3-Month Percent Change, and 12-Month Percent Change.
Change the "Specify Year Range" to 2024 to 2025
Click Retrieve Data.

They don't annualize their numbers, but one can approximately annualize their 1-month numbers by multiplying by 12, and their 3-month numbers by multiplying by 4. (see top of this post on how I annualize using the actual index numbers).

Realize they start at January 2024 (when you specify the year range as 2024 to 2025) whereas my graphs start with February 2024.

I do this sanity check every time I post graphs like these (except for the PCE inflation which is produced by the Commerce Dept and one can't generate graphs like these straight from anything I know of).

Edited to add the 12 months averages graphs (same as Year Over Year) from the BLS links using the above method

Core PPI, 12 month rolling averages:


Regular PPI 12 month rolling averages:


Latest 12 month average : Core PPI: 3.3%,   Regular PPI: 3.2%

SunSeeker

(55,498 posts)
7. In February we were running off the fumes of the Biden administration.
Thu Mar 13, 2025, 02:24 PM
Mar 13

The effects of the tariffs have not hit yet. Although the plane crashes under Trump have really reduced the demand for air travel, bringing down the cost of airfare.

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