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Expect Red cards
mcar
(46,752 posts)malaise
(300,249 posts)Funny I hate both of them.
mcar
(46,752 posts)As my son is a huge Arsenal fan, I am familiar with some of the England players so I can't help but want them to do well.
malaise
(300,249 posts)at home - neighbourhood team. One of the kids was a junior player but never went on.
😀
BeyondGeography
(41,246 posts)Not even a yellow for that.
malaise
(300,249 posts)War minus the shooting
underpants
(198,081 posts)Aside from the War, the Hand of God,
..
There was the 1966 WC Quartfinal.
The match was so brutal yellow and red cards were invented.
The Argentinian Captain was ejected at the 35th minute, wouldnt leave for 10 minutes, and was escorted off by police.
https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/49353029/england-argentina-world-cup-rivalry-antonio-rattin-diego-maradona-hand-god-michael-owen-david-beckham
malaise
(300,249 posts)England score
underpants
(198,081 posts)Aside from the War, the Hand of God,
..
There was the 1966 WC Quartfinal.
The match was so brutal yellow and red cards were invented.
The Argentinian Captain was ejected at the 35th minute, wouldnt leave for 10 minutes, and was escorted off by police.
https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/49353029/england-argentina-world-cup-rivalry-antonio-rattin-diego-maradona-hand-god-michael-owen-david-beckham
malaise
(300,249 posts)60 years ago when it was stolen from Germany.😀
malaise
(300,249 posts)😀
Coventina
(30,174 posts)I was really hoping I'd be rooting for Norway, but oh well.......
malaise
(300,249 posts)Spain😂
Ocelot II
(132,084 posts)I'm still recovering from the loss to England of Norway and their giant golden retriever, but I want Spain to win the final, just so I can watch Trump have to award them the trophy.
I was also rooting for Norway
Coventina
(30,174 posts)Isn't Argentina currently run by Trump's pals?
Argentina score again
Great goal
Prairie Gates
(8,817 posts)I've never seen anything like that before.
sarisataka
(23,348 posts)Argentina is their own worst enemy at this point. If they lose their composure they will have no chance
malaise
(300,249 posts)Staying with Brazil I hope😀
sarisataka
(23,348 posts)are playing better than their quarterfinals but I don't know if they can handle Spain.
Spain's demolition of France was clinical.
malaise
(300,249 posts)1-1
sarisataka
(23,348 posts)Argentina kept their head and believed they could get the win.
Hopefully Spain plays their game and is ruthless until the final whistle
malaise
(300,249 posts)They know how to fight to the end
sarisataka
(23,348 posts)malaise
(300,249 posts)😀
sarisataka
(23,348 posts)have to say, England did it to themselves. They thought they could turtle for 30+ minutes.
malaise
(300,249 posts)They never learn
dem4decades
(14,778 posts)underpants
(198,081 posts)I didnt understand the complete change. They went long ball in the first half. Great long passes but that wasnt their game.
Them they scored. They clearly thought they could just wait out Argentina. You cant stop a WC team any team for that long. After the late water break (70 min) it was all Argentina. An unrelenting attack. Argentina kept adding offensive players and England defense. After the score tied, how did England think they would score?
Its as if the manager thought
and now
for something completely different
pfitz59
(13,097 posts)What an ending!
malaise
(300,249 posts)😀
underpants
(198,081 posts)England looked gassed. You just defend a World Cup talent like that endlessly.
sarisataka
(23,348 posts)England thought they had done enough.
Spain needs to remember Argentina is dangerous in the late game.
malaise
(300,249 posts)Back to back winning teams
Italy 1934: 1938, Brazil 1962: 1966
I hope Argentina is not the 3rd.
Alephy
(179 posts)mcar
(46,752 posts)Johonny
(26,942 posts)Alive.
Spain should be favored in the finals. They will dominate the ball, one assumes.
Prairie Gates
(8,817 posts)Who on Earth thinks you can run a low block against Argentina for 40 minutes? Only Tuchel.
And then, he doesn't make more than one sub until the 80th minute. How?
And then, when he makes another sub, he decides again on yet a new formation.
Honestly, this World Cup has a single lesson: if you play scared, you lose. Tuchel retreated into some goofy Bundesliga philosophy after Gordon's goal, and the results were all but predetermined at that point.
There will be minor recriminations for Morgan Rogers not passing on the break when England was still up 1-0, but these are not legitimate or interesting: he's a good lad who had the last two important assists for England. Shooting there was a fine decision, even if it didn't work out.
But the recriminations will be for Tuchel, whose foolishness opened the door for Argentina. I don't see how he survives it. Sacked before New Year's, I'd guess. Certainly, nobody wants to see his snailing strategy in the Euros.