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SamuelTheThird

(1,628 posts)
Wed Jul 15, 2026, 02:10 PM 5 hrs ago

We Must Prepare For an AI Bubble Now

(That 5 trillion by Chase is on the low end of estimates. Some firms estimate up to 11 trillion by 2030)

https://time.com/article/2026/03/26/we-must-prepare-for-an-ai-bubble-now/

Morgan Chase analysts anticipate $5 trillion of spending on AI infrastructure between now and 2030. This year alone, four tech companies—Amazon, Alphabet, Meta and Microsoft— have plans to invest $670 billion on AI infrastructure. When measured as a percentage of U.S. GDP, this is more than the Apollo space program, the U.S. interstate highway system, railroads, and every other major capital expenditure in U.S. history except the Louisiana Purchase, according to the Wall Street Journal. Yet OpenAI and Anthropic have annualized revenues of about $25 billion and $19 billion, respectively. Unless AI revenues grow by orders of magnitude soon, there’s a Grand Canyon-sized gap that will be hard to cross.

Notably, this over-investment is being funded by the public. Big Tech companies are spending their cash, using capital from equity investments, issuing record levels of corporate bonds, and leveraging private credit, junk bonds, structured finance, asset-backed securities, and more. The size of the required investment means that nearly every financial market is involved.

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Worse still, we’re seeing a rise in specific forms of financial engineering—circular financing, “off books” special purpose vehicles, huge private credit loans, and significant volumes of credit default swaps and asset-backed securities—which obscure a full understanding of the systemic risks. And, again, those mechanisms are funded, in large part, by retirees, small businesses, and others with savings, and all of us who depend on the financial system.

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Policymakers should start developing and debating proposals now to address the underlying structural problems in the AI sector that are likely to be drivers of a future crash. They need to understand and start developing reforms to address circular financing, opaque debt financing, massive (and often non-transparent) subsidies by state and local governments, and the integration and interconnections that have led to sprawling conglomerates. They need to start proposing new, imaginative ways to develop the AI-sector in a way that works for ordinary people and small businesses, like public cloud computing services and worker protections, rather than leaving the fate of American society to the AI oligarchs. They should commit in advance to robustly prosecuting fraud under federal and state criminal laws to send the signal now that illegal behavior will not be tolerated. And they need to commit to helping ordinary people, not bailing out the AI com (lol dreaming here)

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SWBTATTReg

(26,598 posts)
1. It's already here, the bubble...it's now just a matter of slowly backing out all of your investments tied
Wed Jul 15, 2026, 02:19 PM
5 hrs ago

directly or INdirectly to the AI bubble. Then wait for the downfall to happen, let it run its full course, and then cherry-pick the best ones left standing, that are well positioned, well financed, and actually seems rather logical, decent in their write-ups by Wall Street, others.

bucolic_frolic

(56,546 posts)
2. Nice that M$M has picked up what's been circulating on YouTube since early April
Wed Jul 15, 2026, 02:23 PM
5 hrs ago

Too big to fail ... too big to complete. This is a giant distortion of the use of capital. Revenues will never support the debt. If all this crashes it's not al all clear what will happen to portions of business that aren't involved.

Estimates say from late this year to April 2027 is the most vulnerable time for it all to crash. Banks will fail. Who will bail out the banks? The federal government? The Fed? What about the US dollar and the bond market?

This is on my radar every day. The size of the debt could topple anything, even the biggest mutual fund companies, Big Banks ... recall 2008 ... Lehman, Washington Mutual

Initech

(109,846 posts)
3. They steal all of our money and resources, we get pictures of cats riding escalators.
Wed Jul 15, 2026, 02:25 PM
5 hrs ago

AI sucks. And the people who are peddling AI suck too.

Coventina

(30,174 posts)
4. Careful, you'll get swarmed by the AI apologists here.
Wed Jul 15, 2026, 02:27 PM
5 hrs ago

Telling you that you're yelling at clouds.

TheProle

(4,257 posts)
5. I don't know that there are a whole lot of those here
Wed Jul 15, 2026, 02:46 PM
4 hrs ago

I will sometimes reply to the doom and gloom posts but with no intent of swarming, but rather expressing a counter-opinion.

In fact, I would argue that the anti-AI folks are quite a bit more condescending and hostile than the other way around.

There may be, in fact, a bubble and a major correction with it, but it doesn't nullify the long-term value of AI and it certainly doesn't make it a "pet rock" product.

As with any issue, there is a lot of propaganda fueling both sides.

Coventina

(30,174 posts)
6. As a college professor who has seen the real negative impact of AI on students' ability to think and learn,
Wed Jul 15, 2026, 02:50 PM
4 hrs ago

I am NOT responding to propaganda.

Initech

(109,846 posts)
9. Coming from someone who was practically raised on tech since the days of the Nintendo Entertainment System...
Wed Jul 15, 2026, 03:48 PM
3 hrs ago

AI sucks. I stand by my claim. Terminator was right.

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