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erronis

(25,299 posts)
Wed Jul 15, 2026, 09:37 AM 10 hrs ago

What the law says about prosecuting ICE agents for murder -- Sabrina Haake

https://sabrinahaake.substack.com/p/what-the-law-says-about-prosecuting

ICE agents just shot and killed two more innocent people, a man in Texas and another in Maine. Both men were legally authorized to work in the United States; both were shot in the early morning while driving to work.

Neither victim was ICE's intended target, meaning each man died because federal agents pursued him in error.

. . .

Although Trump officials are trying to block independent investigations into ICE killings, the truth will eventually come out, as it just did for Renee Good. When all the evidence is finally released, ICE agents will learn that they are not as free to kill as Stephen Miller would have them believe.

Not only can ICE agents be prosecuted, tried by jury, and sent to prison (or worse) for murder, but Trump can't pardon them. Anyone convicted of murder under a state's criminal code is stuck with state justice as they languish in that state's penitentiary.

Federal agents are not immune from state prosecution and never have been

Under state and federal law, a federal agent acting outside the scope of his duties is not immune from state prosecution for murder, manslaughter, or any other crime under state law. Since 1890, the Supreme Court has held federal officers immune from state prosecution only if 1. they were acting within the scope of their official federal duties, and 2. their actions were objectively reasonable.

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Sabrina Haake is a political analyst and 25+ year federal trial attorney specializing in 1st and 14th A defense.
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What the law says about prosecuting ICE agents for murder -- Sabrina Haake (Original Post) erronis 10 hrs ago OP
"Since 1890, the Supreme Court has held..." MIButterfly 10 hrs ago #1
Texas law enforcement isn't trustworthy either. WmChris 10 hrs ago #2
I'd appreciate relogic 8 hrs ago #3
States Governors have pardon powers, Abbott would gladly pardon these murderers MagickMuffin 8 hrs ago #4

MIButterfly

(3,697 posts)
1. "Since 1890, the Supreme Court has held..."
Wed Jul 15, 2026, 09:54 AM
10 hrs ago

I don’t trust this Supreme Court one bit. The last few justices all said that Roe v. Wade was established law of the land and they wouldn't touch it at their confirmation hearings and looked what happened. The majority of them go out of their way to give DJT a free pass on everything. No, I don't believe they will rely on precedent; they make their own law.

That's just the way I see it. I hope I'm wrong.

relogic

(450 posts)
3. I'd appreciate
Wed Jul 15, 2026, 12:16 PM
8 hrs ago

her enthused optimism more if Presidents, AG’s, political courts and the rest of the corrupt regime didn’t excuse, coverup, exonerate and pardon those crimes.

MagickMuffin

(18,393 posts)
4. States Governors have pardon powers, Abbott would gladly pardon these murderers
Wed Jul 15, 2026, 12:30 PM
8 hrs ago


He sides with gun violence. Always has Always will.

He attended a NRA fundraiser after the slaughter/murders at Uvalde, Texas. He took their money because he loves guns more than children.

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