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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe court order regarding Trump's IRS/slush fund case is a big deal!
Read it here: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.706172/gov.uscourts.flsd.706172.106.0.pdf
The judge held that it was brought for an improper purpose and awarded sanctions against the attorneys.
surfered
(15,446 posts)Ocelot II
(132,052 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(184,867 posts)If the president was waiting for a payout from his IRS lawsuit, a federal judge suggested he might need to start lowering his expectations.
Judge questions whether Trump can sue his own administration for billion
— Mike Walker (@newnarrative.bsky.social) 2026-04-27T19:11:24.754Z
www.ms.now/rachel-maddo...
https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/judge-questions-whether-trump-can-sue-his-own-administration-for-10-billion
A federal judge suggested late last week that the president might have to lower his expectations. Politico reported:
President Donald Trumps $10 billion lawsuit against the IRS over the leaking of his tax returns ran into turbulence Friday as a judge ordered a hearing on whether the Constitution allows the president to sue the federal government he oversees.
U.S. District Court Judge Kathleen Williams has asked Trumps private attorneys and Justice Department lawyers representing the IRS to address whether his control over the governments actions in the case means its the kind of dispute federal courts cannot consider.
Although President Trump avers that he is bringing this lawsuit in his personal capacity, he is the sitting president and his named adversaries are entities whose decisions are subject to his direction, Williams wrote in a four-page order.
It is unclear to this Court whether the Parties are sufficiently adverse to each other so as to satisfy Article IIIs case or controversy requirement, the judge added, referring to the Constitution.....
Shortly after his lawyers filed the case, the president told reporters that he assumed nobody would care if he received a lucrative payout as part of the frivolous litigation. That payout now appears in doubt. Watch this space.
We spent maybe part of one Constitutional law class on the case or controversy provision of the Constitution. This usually came up in the cases dealing with advisory opinions. Here is the relevant part of the US Constitution
The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority;to all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls;to all Cases of admiralty and maritime Jurisdiction; to Controversies to which the United States shall be a Party;to Controversies between two or more States; between a State and Citizens of another State, between Citizens of different States,between Citizens of the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States, and between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens or Subjects.
Since trump is on both sides of this silly lawsuit, there is no Case or Controversy. This opinion made me smile. I suspect that future Con law classes will be spending more time on this provision of the US Constitution.
rampartd
(5,916 posts)not that anything matters, this will be appealed. trump will be immune.
malaise
(300,158 posts)and their goon in chief impeached again
hlthe2b
(115,493 posts)malaise
(300,158 posts)Ocelot II
(132,052 posts)To summarize, the judge ordered non-monetary sanctions under Federal Rule 11, and referred Trump attorney Alejandro Brito to the Florida Bar for its determination regarding disciplinary action, and prohibited Trump attorney Daniel Z. Epstein for applying for admission pro hac vice in the Southern District of Florida one year or until further order of the court, and also prohibited the parties from calling the so-called "settlement agreement" an actual settlement of the matter (meaning that the "slush fund" is dead). The court also awarded monetary damages to the non-party amici curiae and referred the matter to the State Bar of New York, of which Acting AG Blanche is a member, and to the DC Bar, of which Associate AG Woodward is a member.
An improper purpose under Rule 11 includes filing suit to force a settlement....This case concerns whether Plaintiffs conduct, as described supra, satisfies Rule 11s improper purpose standard. The Court concludes that it does. ... These efforts cannot be allowed in this Court.... As aptly summarized by the non-party movants, Plaintiffs acted in bad faith and for an improper purpose by collusively filing a lawsuit with claims subject to multiple dispositive defenses solely to provide cover for a collusive settlement. ...
The Court recognizes that Rule 11(c)(5)(B) limits a courts ability to impose monetary sanctions on its own initiative where the show cause order follows a voluntary dismissal or settlement. .... Nonetheless, the Court need not decide whether the circumstances of this case permit monetary sanctions notwithstanding the language of Rule 11(c)(5)(B). That limitation applies only to monetary sanctions and does not prevent the Court from determining whether Rule 11 has been violated or whether appropriate non-monetary sanctions are appropriate...
Thus, after considering the totality of the circumstances, including the record, the relevant law, the written submissions, and the factors identified by the Eleventh Circuit, the Court concludes that Rule 11 sanctions are appropriate here. ... In fashioning an appropriate sanction, the Court is guided by Rule 11s deterrent purpose. ... The Court therefore imposes non-monetary sanctions under Rule 11 as follows:
1. Plaintiffs Attorney Alejandro Brito is REFERRED to The Florida Bar for its consideration, review, and determination as to whether any disciplinary action is appropriate in light of the findings and rulings made in this Order. The Clerk of Court is DIRECTED to mail a copy of this Case Order to The Florida Bar, of which Attorney Alejandro Brito is a member .
2. All future applications by Daniel Z. Epstein for admission pro hac vice in the Southern District of Florida will be DENIED for one year or until further order of this Court.
3. The Parties are prohibited from referring to the purported settlement agreement, or using, offering, admitting, or citing any of its provisions in any judicial, administrative, regulatory, arbitration, or any other official proceeding as evidence of a settlement reached in this matter. ...
Having concluded that sanctions are warranted under Rule 11, the Court will now address whether sanctions are likewise appropriate under the Courts inherent authority. Although Rule 11 limits imposing monetary sanctions following a voluntary dismissal, the Courts inherent authority remains available to address conduct that abuses the judicial process. ... Independent of Rule 11, federal courts possess inherent authority to protect the integrity of judicial proceedings. .... Thus, while the court ordinarily should rely on the Rules rather than the inherent power . . . if in the informed discretion of the court, neither the statute nor the Rules are up to the task, the court may safely rely on its inherent power. The Court does so here. The conduct of the Parties triggers the Courts inherent authority. As to Plaintiffs, they filed a multibillion-dollar lawsuit asserting claims that they knew, or should have known, were time-barred and for an amount of damages unsupported by facts or law. Plaintiffs could make no connection between the billions of dollars they sought, and the recovery authorized under the governing statute. ... This lawsuit was not brought to vindicate rights; it was brought to manipulate the judicial process to pursue benefits unavailable in litigation because the Parties were not adverse.
Defendants conduct is equally untenable. It is telling that the DOJ, which is tasked with enforcement of United States law, has remained conspicuously absent and silent when serious questions about this matter have been raised. ... And when representatives did choose to expound on the Departments conduct, they offered misleading explanations of the facts and the law. In abdicating its responsibility to zealously defend the interests of the United States, the Government entered into a settlement that deviated from its litigation posture in similar actions, disregarded DOJ policies, and accomplished objectives beyond those authorized, as well as those specifically prohibited, by law. Under these circumstances, the Court may reasonably infer that the Government failed to defend this lawsuit or to respond to the Courts jurisdictional inquiry because its position would not withstand judicial scrutiny and because resolution of the threshold issues identified by the Court would not have favored its preferred outcome to this case. .... The Parties used the existence of federal litigation as a means of conferring legitimacy upon a course of action that they were unwilling to subject to judicial review. The context of the settlement, the relationships of the people involved in negotiating and approving it, the ethical implications of their conduct, and the Parties swift efforts to dismiss this case after the Court raised fundamental jurisdictional questions all support this conclusion. Accordingly, the Court expressly finds that Plaintiffs acted in bad faith.
The Court finds monetary sanctions appropriate under its inherent authority and prerogative to police the matters and litigants who avail themselves of its jurisdiction. ...These monetary sanctions would include the attorneys fees incurred by Court-appointed amici. ... Nevertheless, the Court-appointed amici have declined any reimbursement for their important service to the Court. There remain the initial amiciwhose appearance was not contested by any Partyand the thirty-five former Federal Judges, whose briefing precipitated this Order. Accordingly, these amici, if they wish, may file, within fourteen (14) days of this Order, a memorandum regarding any appropriate reimbursement. Plaintiffs may file any response seven (7) days thereafter. Finally, the Clerk of Court is DIRECTED to mail a copy of this Order to the State Bar of New York, of which Acting Attorney General Blanche is a member, AND to the District of Columbia Bar, of which Associate Attorney General Woodward is a member, where disciplinary proceedings are currently ongoing.
hlthe2b
(115,493 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(184,867 posts)These sanctions will come up in Blanche's confirmation hearing unless it is delayed.
It has been a very very long time since I read up on the case or controversy provision of the US Constitution. I have an early edition of Tribe in my library that I need to look at to see how Tribe discussed this issue back in the good old days.
Ocelot II
(132,052 posts)way back then. If you're a law geek that opinion really was a fun read.
LetMyPeopleVote
(184,867 posts)Referring Blanche to the bar just before his confirmation hearing makes me smile
Link to tweet
A federal judge NULLIFIES the purported settlement behind Trumps $1.776B slush fund, finding there was never a case or controversy and referring his attorney for possible professional discipline.
Doc https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.706172/gov.uscourts.flsd.706172.106.0.pdf



FakeNoose
(43,386 posts)Ocelot II
(132,052 posts)kentuck
(116,346 posts)plain and simple.
melm00se
(5,197 posts)on this story basically blaming President Obama and his appointed judge is at fault.
My response has been:
So according to you and the fact that it's a judge "appointed by Obama", it is perfectly OK for Trump to sue himself, then settle the suit against himself, grant himself immunity from not paying taxes and then give himself (thru an intermediary) money to use for whatever purpose he wants.
Great way to tell the world that you side with Trump ahead of the law.
NJCher
(43,917 posts)by the number of people who have done what they could to prevent some of trump's worst schemes, and this is by far one of the worst. Remember, this is also the one where he tried to get immunity for both him and his family from prosecution on any tax fraud--ever.
In Ocelet's other post on this thread, with the excerpts explaining the conditions under which there could be monetary compensation, the judges who originally took this on were able to get compensation for their work but they refused it. There was never any doubt in my mind that they did this for the country and not for any monetary reason, but the fact that they are legally entitled to compensation for their work and that they refused it says so much.
I hope that the people on this board who think trump "gets away with everything" see and understand this ruling.
LetMyPeopleVote
(184,867 posts)The president probably thought his $10 billion case against the IRS was over. That was before a federal court found his lawyers acted in bad faith.
A federal judge set out to investigate âgrievous allegationsâ in the Trump-IRS case.
— Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2026-07-13T17:37:12.625Z
She apparently did not like what she discovered, concluding that Trump and his lawyers acted âin bad faithâ and filed a civil suit âfor an improper purpose.â
www.ms.now/rachel-maddo...
https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trump-irs-settlement-sanctions-lawyers-leaked-tax-returns
A federal judge said Monday that President Donald Trumps lawsuit against the IRS over his leaked tax returns was filed for an improper purpose as she referred attorneys for disciplinary actions.
The ruling from U.S. District Judge Kathleen Williams amounts to a stinging rebuke of the Republican presidents lawsuit, characterizing it as an exercise in self-dealing in which he sued an entity that is effectively under his control.
.....More than a month later, she apparently did not like what she discovered, concluding that Trump and his lawyers acted in bad faith and filed a civil suit for an improper purpose.
The nature of the suit itself and the conduct of the Parties and counsel from its filing make plain that this was an attempt to use the Court to provide some legitimacy to an agreement to confer immunity to people and entities affiliated with the President and to earmark billions of dollars from American taxpayers to redress grievances not defined in the law, Williams wrote.
The judge also prohibited the parties from even referring to it as a settlement.
Just as notably, as CNBC reported, Williams referred Trumps lawyer in the lawsuit, Alejandro Brito, to the Florida bar for consideration on whether Brito should be disciplined in light of the findings in the new order. The judge also ordered that a copy of her ruling be mailed to the State Bar of New York, of which Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche is a member, as well as to the District of Columbia Bar, of which Associate Attorney General Stanley Woodward is a member.
I am looking forward to Blanche's confirmation hearing. One of the questions may be to find out if a disbarred attorney can be Attorney General