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Dean Withers debates 20 MAGA women. (Original Post) Swede 18 hrs ago OP
Withers +20, these women zero. LOL! joshdawg 17 hrs ago #1
Who is this a n d why do we care? Srkdqltr 17 hrs ago #2
He's one of the biggest rising stars of the left and an extremely skilled debater. nt Quixote1818 17 hrs ago #3
Calm down. BannonsLiver 16 hrs ago #6
He's an extremely online zoomer kid that takes on dumb ass MAGAts all day long. maxsolomon 15 hrs ago #8
Good to see a young person EYESORE 9001 15 hrs ago #10
You know how people say "Thse kids today don't know anything and they don't care about anything".... Bettie 15 hrs ago #9
He also, unlike other people in the Democratic space... mr715 15 hrs ago #13
Yes, that too Bettie 15 hrs ago #15
I agree HaveACat 14 hrs ago #19
Sounds serious Torchlight 15 hrs ago #11
It's fairly easy to find out for yourself. Klarkashton 13 hrs ago #26
Been watching pieces of this Johnny2X2X 16 hrs ago #4
These women and girls are an embarrassment to the gender. NoMoreRepugs 16 hrs ago #5
This is a setup. Actors. YouTube is a swamp of this stuff. Srkdqltr 15 hrs ago #7
Sorry. No Actors on Jubilee Surrounded videos. Wiz Imp 15 hrs ago #12
Excuse me, i guess they are wonderful and just as adorable as they can be. Srkdqltr 15 hrs ago #14
Huh? Wiz Imp 13 hrs ago #21
You Don't Know What You're Talking About. ruet 15 hrs ago #16
Of course Srkdqltr 14 hrs ago #17
That's one guess Torchlight 14 hrs ago #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Wiz Imp 13 hrs ago #23
I'm 99.999999% sure you are dead wrong about that but you have the chance to provide proof. FascismIsDeath 14 hrs ago #20
You can be 100% sure. The person has no clue what they are talking about. Wiz Imp 13 hrs ago #22
I was trying to be a little bit flexible, lol FascismIsDeath 13 hrs ago #24
For anyone who thinks Jubilee Media's "Surrounded" show isn't real... Wiz Imp 13 hrs ago #25
He had his choice of 20 MAGA women or 20 MAGA men. He based his choice on the culmulative IQs of....... FadedMullet 13 hrs ago #27
Dean Withers debates 20 morons. Americanme 6 hrs ago #28
Typical MAGA, they are so confidentily wrong. Swede 6 hrs ago #29
Just like their president. Americanme 6 hrs ago #30
Does Dean have one of those gifted memories or something? FascismIsDeath 2 hrs ago #31

maxsolomon

(39,396 posts)
8. He's an extremely online zoomer kid that takes on dumb ass MAGAts all day long.
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 11:58 AM
15 hrs ago

While smoking cannabis vapes.

Bettie

(19,988 posts)
9. You know how people say "Thse kids today don't know anything and they don't care about anything"....
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 11:59 AM
15 hrs ago

Dean is the opposite of that steriotype.

He's smart, quick, and really good at making his point. He, and others like him, are the future of our party.

mr715

(4,813 posts)
13. He also, unlike other people in the Democratic space...
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 12:41 PM
15 hrs ago

calls these people bad people.

He doesn't mince words. He doesn't say "You've been misinformed". He flat out says you believe stuff that makes me want to puke and "you're a disgusting person for believing x y z"/

And they're best retort? Get off my lawn, kid! I have life experience.

Bettie

(19,988 posts)
15. Yes, that too
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 12:49 PM
15 hrs ago

he doesn't go for the conciliatory "well, both sides have a point", because they don't.

And he is very matter of fact about telling them exactly what he thinks.

HaveACat

(2 posts)
19. I agree
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 01:14 PM
14 hrs ago

We need more young people in politics. However, the arguments to these questions bored me to tears and I had to stop watching. I'll try to pick it up later.

Johnny2X2X

(24,584 posts)
4. Been watching pieces of this
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 10:59 AM
16 hrs ago

The fact a young man has to convince 20 women that they are not lesser than men and they are just as capable is frankly jaw dropping. The patriarchy has made these women hate women.

Wiz Imp

(10,785 posts)
12. Sorry. No Actors on Jubilee Surrounded videos.
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 12:40 PM
15 hrs ago

The right wingers are legitimately that stupid. I haave no idea why you think they aare actors. Nothing could be further from the truth. Whether you think they accomplish anything productive is a completely different point. But the idea that the people are not expressing their own actual opinons is not only wrong, it is ridiculous.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surrounded_(web_series)
Reception

Vox described the series as a satire of what they believe Donald Trump had turned political discussions into, "extremely competitive, theatrical, and unbalanced." They described the series as a stunt, comparing it to videos by MrBeast. They criticized the series as rage bait and for using what they described as unchallenging prompts such as "trans women are women" and "Kamala Harris is a DEI candidate". However, they noted ingenuity in how it appeals to a wide audience by showcasing varied arguments.[4]

Vulture was skeptical of the casting, particularly in the episode featuring Sam Seder, where they noted that the conservative debaters were all cast as a diverse group who were significantly younger than Seder, suggesting that Jubilee Media were trying to tell a story of youth and diversity within conservative movements.[2]

The Daily Beast writer Michael Ian Black expressed disappointment with the claims made by conservative debaters in Seder's episode, suggesting that it was evidence that people who supported Donald Trump did not have ideologies grounded in reality.[9] However, others viewed it more positively and spread videos online when they believed Ben Shapiro had lost a debate to a transgender man on the show.[1]

In reflecting on his episode, Seder was asked if he believed it was dangerous to allow people who believed in theocracies and white nationalism to share such beliefs on a large platform. Seder simply responded that he did not care if those portions were spread as clips and if he was criticized for not being as rational as his opponents. He noted that his goal was successful based on the comments under Michael Knowles' response video to the episode being critical of Knowles. Despite this, he described the episode as "disturbing".[2] He added in another interview that Surrounded's methods were better than those of Gavin Newsom, who he viewed as purposefully attempting to create division.[13]

Research came to find that setups such as the one in Surrounded could in fact be more harmful than neutral. It said that such a style makes intense political debates appear more common than they are, whereas the average American tended to debate these topics "infrequently". Research showed that when one was asked to defend their political stance, it led to increased feelings of anxiety, which researcher Erica Bailey said was the reason for the popularity of Surrounded, as it allowed people to live vicariously through the debaters.[4]

Response to Torchlight (Reply #18)

FascismIsDeath

(310 posts)
20. I'm 99.999999% sure you are dead wrong about that but you have the chance to provide proof.
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 01:48 PM
14 hrs ago

Wiz Imp

(10,785 posts)
25. For anyone who thinks Jubilee Media's "Surrounded" show isn't real...
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 02:29 PM
13 hrs ago

Democratic politicians who have appeared include Pete Buttigieg, Ro Khanna, James Talarico and Isaiah Martin. Does anyone really think these people would go on this show to argue with actors? Also, after Dean Withers' first appearance as the person being surrounded, he was invited to the white house. Do you really think Joe Biden would do that for someone debating actors?

FadedMullet

(1,078 posts)
27. He had his choice of 20 MAGA women or 20 MAGA men. He based his choice on the culmulative IQs of.......
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 02:36 PM
13 hrs ago

........both groups. The women, at slightly less than 1600, were fractionally "smarter" than the men.

Americanme

(599 posts)
28. Dean Withers debates 20 morons.
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 08:56 PM
6 hrs ago

How does this young man have so much patience? I would have lost it. These gullible women make me sad.

Swede

(40,495 posts)
29. Typical MAGA, they are so confidentily wrong.
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 09:14 PM
6 hrs ago

The Dunning-Kruger Effect: A phenomenon where individuals with limited knowledge or competence in a specific domain greatly overestimate their own expertise.

FascismIsDeath

(310 posts)
31. Does Dean have one of those gifted memories or something?
Wed Jun 24, 2026, 01:11 AM
2 hrs ago

He can rattle off a shit load of facts with no notes, not much time to think about it, etc.

Buttigieg can sort of do this too but maybe not to the extent Dean can. Its not a competition, just an observation. He is just a firehose of facts.

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