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marble falls

(73,022 posts)
Wed Jun 10, 2026, 01:43 PM 5 hrs ago

I'm the Foreign Minister of Sweden. Don't Overestimate Russia.

I’m the Foreign Minister of Sweden. Don’t Overestimate Russia.
May 20, 2026

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/20/opinion/sweden-intelligence-russia-economy.html

By Maria Malmer Stenergard

Ms. Stenergard is Sweden’s minister for foreign affairs. She wrote from Stockholm.

-snip-

There are several reasons to believe that Russia has been exaggerating its economic strength. Russia has claimed that its economy grew by around 13 percent between 2020 and 2024, but by measuring nighttime luminosity, an established way of assessing economic activity in countries where official statistics are not available or cannot be trusted, we have estimated that the economy actually contracted by around 8 percent during this period.

We also believe inflation is substantially understated. In 2024, when inflation in Russia was reportedly around 10 percent, the central bank raised the benchmark interest rate to 21 percent, suggesting that inflation was higher. And Sweden’s Military Intelligence and Security Service believes that it is higher than the current official forecast of around 5 percent. This would mean Russia is overstating its purchasing power, and that its military spending capacity is weaker than it appears.

-snip-

Then there are Russia’s strategic failures in Ukraine. Advances at the front have almost ground to a halt, with Ukraine even regaining some territory. Russia’s casualty rates at the front are catastrophic. Russia has suffered 1.2 million casualties since the start of the invasion, by some estimates, an average of roughly 35,000 a month in 2025. Recruitment is increasingly expensive.

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Russia’s economy, in nominal terms, is barely bigger than the State of New York’s, smaller than that of Texas and fragile. Russian households are feeling the pinch of daily expenses, and the lion’s share of the liquid assets in the country’s national wealth fund — its financial buffer — has been drained to finance the war. The weakness in the economy shows how effective Western sanctions have already been, and why further pressure is the best way to force Mr. Putin to engage in serious peace negotiations.

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Sweden’s assessment of Russia’s reporting on its economy is that Russia is covering up the economy’s general fragility. Inside the country citizens are increasingly alarmed. Putin has acknowledged weaknesses in the economy’s performance and ordered officials to improve it. A Kremlin-friendly think tank recently warned of the risks of a systemic banking crisis this year and the economic growth forecast for 2026 was downgraded to 0.4 percent, despite rising oil prices.

We can’t change Putin’s plan to absorb Ukraine, but we can change how much it will cost him. Sanctions are effective, "Russia would need the average oil price for Urals oil to remain above $100 a barrel for the rest of the year to make a significant difference."

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I'm the Foreign Minister of Sweden. Don't Overestimate Russia. (Original Post) marble falls 5 hrs ago OP
Recommended. H2O Man 5 hrs ago #1
If he does that before the election, he'll see his supporters in the US government lose in a wholesale loss ... marble falls 4 hrs ago #2
I agree. H2O Man 4 hrs ago #3
So Diaper Don is following his mentor's lead in grossly exagerrating the economy's success? johnnyplankton 3 hrs ago #4
He was not sharp enough to figure it out by himself. marble falls 3 hrs ago #5
I don't know. Apparently he was one of the few people who knew that "dumb" was spelled with a "B" johnnyplankton 1 hr ago #20
Remind me again... BurnDoubt 3 hrs ago #6
Arbitage is the name of the game. A nation of speculating day traders. marble falls 2 hrs ago #8
Putin has tied his political legitimacy to this war he created Torchlight 3 hrs ago #7
In the late 60s, after Walter Cronkite said he saw no way to "victory" for the US in Viet Nam ... marble falls 2 hrs ago #9
As soon as the population runs out of multigraincracker 2 hrs ago #17
kicked. AllaN01Bear 2 hrs ago #10
But but but... MoseShrute 2 hrs ago #11
Then what's holding the little twit from packing up and moving there? marble falls 2 hrs ago #12
The reality that he doesn't want to live there. mr715 20 min ago #21
None of these Putiniks want to go except for asswipes like Stevie Segal, Edward Snowdon, Grard Depardieu (who ... marble falls 14 min ago #22
I'm sure you read the story of the Texas family... mr715 8 min ago #24
Putin is obsessed. Ukraine is his white whale. tblue37 2 hrs ago #13
I always felt Putin was smart but depended on being cunning. How did he wrap around the axle of Ukraine? ... marble falls 2 hrs ago #15
I listen to Dr. Anna Danylchuk's daily vlog, "Anna From Ukraine". She niyad 2 hrs ago #14
6 Billion Rubles is $14 mr715 10 min ago #23
My error. Six TRILLION, about 100 dollars. .She says "roubles niyad 1 min ago #25
It's what brought down the Soviet Union BaronChocula 2 hrs ago #16
Reagan challenged Russia to an arms war their economy couldn't handle. That's how Ronnie got them to Helsinki ... marble falls 1 hr ago #19
in short, fuck the russian government RT Atlanta 1 hr ago #18

H2O Man

(79,417 posts)
1. Recommended.
Wed Jun 10, 2026, 01:48 PM
5 hrs ago

If not before our mid-terms, I expect Putin to hit at least one of the countries supporting Ukraine shortly thereafter.

marble falls

(73,022 posts)
2. If he does that before the election, he'll see his supporters in the US government lose in a wholesale loss ...
Wed Jun 10, 2026, 02:10 PM
4 hrs ago

... Can you imagine a better campaign strategy than posting all the times TACO kissed Putin's butt on camera being used on GOP legislators up for re-elections?

johnnyplankton

(671 posts)
4. So Diaper Don is following his mentor's lead in grossly exagerrating the economy's success?
Wed Jun 10, 2026, 03:27 PM
3 hrs ago

"I'm shocked. Shocked, I tell you!"

johnnyplankton

(671 posts)
20. I don't know. Apparently he was one of the few people who knew that "dumb" was spelled with a "B"
Wed Jun 10, 2026, 05:43 PM
1 hr ago

BurnDoubt

(1,925 posts)
6. Remind me again...
Wed Jun 10, 2026, 03:35 PM
3 hrs ago

what has caused the price of oil to fluctuate so radically by the day, frequently above $100.00/ barrel?
If you had a Sharpy, you could draw a line between the two, and still have enough to buy lunch for a couple traders.

Torchlight

(7,126 posts)
7. Putin has tied his political legitimacy to this war he created
Wed Jun 10, 2026, 03:43 PM
3 hrs ago

I think at this point, the cost of the casualties lag far behind the cost of consequence should he being to draw down. I gave up my last hopes last summer that Putin would make a rational, though humiliating decision and save what's left of his army when he decided 75,000 casualties justified a 5 sq. mile advance into territory presenting him zero additional advantages or benefits.

I'm beginning to believe that outside a military catastrophe, only the popular will of the Russian citizenry will eventually see Moscow stand down. If he withdraws, or even moves the goalposts again on his definition of victory, he's a dead man (politically, if not otherwise) and I think he's fully aware of that.

marble falls

(73,022 posts)
9. In the late 60s, after Walter Cronkite said he saw no way to "victory" for the US in Viet Nam ...
Wed Jun 10, 2026, 04:06 PM
2 hrs ago

... there were those in the US called for more troops so as to not dishonor the sacrifice of those already sacrificed.

marble falls

(73,022 posts)
22. None of these Putiniks want to go except for asswipes like Stevie Segal, Edward Snowdon, Grard Depardieu (who ...
Wed Jun 10, 2026, 06:37 PM
14 min ago

... chickened out and came home to France), and a handful of US families and individuals who came to regret it.

mr715

(4,692 posts)
24. I'm sure you read the story of the Texas family...
Wed Jun 10, 2026, 06:43 PM
8 min ago

that moved to Russia. The dad ended up enlisted on the front lines and the family received none of the compensation they were promised.

Helluva country. Who wouldn't want to live in the nation that perfected existential despair?

marble falls

(73,022 posts)
15. I always felt Putin was smart but depended on being cunning. How did he wrap around the axle of Ukraine? ...
Wed Jun 10, 2026, 04:47 PM
2 hrs ago

... he just wasn't smart enough to pull out in year one claiming victory over the "nazis", regroup, and come back a few years later better prepared for a fight.

niyad

(134,751 posts)
14. I listen to Dr. Anna Danylchuk's daily vlog, "Anna From Ukraine". She
Wed Jun 10, 2026, 04:44 PM
2 hrs ago

Last edited Wed Jun 10, 2026, 06:47 PM - Edit history (1)

has been reporting on banks closing, stopping customers from withdrawing their money, astounding numbers of unpaid loans, gasoline rationing and shortages, businesses failing, and, importantly, a SIX TRILLION ROUBLE deficit (a predicted year- end-total) that occured in the first quarter! She pays attention to ruzzian channels and vloggers, who are painting very grim pictures of life in putler's "workers' paradise"

mr715

(4,692 posts)
23. 6 Billion Rubles is $14
Wed Jun 10, 2026, 06:41 PM
10 min ago

Kidding obviously.

However the current exchange rate puts it at around 80 million USD, which is a rounding error in our budgets.

It is amazing to consider the size of our economy (or, even agencies like DOD) compared to Russia, with its 1000s of nukes and massive mineral resources. To say nothing of its historical and cultural legacy. Yet it is operating with, as OP points out, an economy the same size as NY State.

For all their puffed out chests and bluster, they just can't play at the NATO-West. If the US doesn't destroy the NATO-West...



BaronChocula

(4,891 posts)
16. It's what brought down the Soviet Union
Wed Jun 10, 2026, 04:48 PM
2 hrs ago

Economists and planners went with scripts that sounded optimistic and made superiors happy rather than the truth.

Certain people credit reagan with bringing down the USSR. Not me.

(And the rebounding economy after reagan's giant recession was actually the desktop/PC tech boom.)

marble falls

(73,022 posts)
19. Reagan challenged Russia to an arms war their economy couldn't handle. That's how Ronnie got them to Helsinki ...
Wed Jun 10, 2026, 05:22 PM
1 hr ago

... and the START talks.

Sort of like what Philip K. Dick wrote about in 'The Zap Gun',

RT Atlanta

(2,846 posts)
18. in short, fuck the russian government
Wed Jun 10, 2026, 04:52 PM
1 hr ago

they're are leading a master class in stealing from the citizens - something that donnie, and oday and qusay are doing their best to replicate here while a willing republican party enables it.

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