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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat we witnessed yesterday on MTP
was a typical outburst from an individual who has frontotemporal dementia. The triggering of the physiological aspects: the reddening of the face, the snarling rictus of the mouth wherein you see what looks almost like a smile or grin but is negative reaction in extremis, the postural change, all point to sudden expression of repressed rage. The pressure of speech: the incessant speaking of the pent-up phraseology which under any normal circumstances would not be uttered, associated with the malignant narcissism was uninterruptible by the questioner.
It is not unimportant that the eruption occurred during interrogation by none other than a black female, whose members of that group are almost invariably described by the subject as Low-I.Q. .
This was clinically a significant outburst, the subject matter aside. I believe that Ms Welker, like her or not professionally, was so taken aback at this almost feral-sounding and appearing man, that she reverted briefly into an almost childish mindset, for which I do not blame her one iota. In the vernacular, it turned into a fucking nightmare.
As far as I am concerned, I would put this degree of pathology in the same category as the Pennsylvania official who blew the back of his head off on camera in the late 1980s. Rarely do you see true, not simulated, full-blown pathology of this severity unless you are watching clinical films or video made for academic purposes.
In this matter I unfortunately speak from competence and experience. I have had this happen to me on several occasions and can relate the details of each as though they occurred yesterday. Again, in the vernacular: this is some sick shit, man.
JCMach1
(29,257 posts)With this toxic 🍊 🧩 of 💩
PCIntern
(28,714 posts)Hes been sick a long time. A lifetime. Its a reverse Hannibal Lecter: evil and perverse but in 🍊 case malignantly ignorant as well
ShazzieB
(22,993 posts)The frontotemporal dementia is removing his inhibitions, so that he can't maintain the mask of sanity as well as he used to.
He must still have a little bit of self control, though. As enraged as he was, he managed not to physically assault her. One of these days he won't be able to stop himself from doing that, and he'll have to be physically restrained from hitting someone. I dont want anyone to get hurt (except maybe him), but I hope it happens when there are cameras on him, so that the whole world can witness the madness of King Donald.
Zackzzzz
(404 posts)the fierceness of his anger,
and his body was on the edge of the chair.
His feet looked like they were ready to spring;
like he could go after her at any moment..
And then he put his hand, buddy like, on her shoulder as he left?
I was frightened for her.
I don't know if she understood what she had just been through.
txwhitedove
(4,413 posts)ShazzieB
(22,993 posts)When he stood up, he started to lose his balance and needed something to grab onto. Her shoulder was the only thing within reach.
If she had backed away from him before he could touch her, I think he would have gone down like a sack of potatoes. Unfortunately, it happened so fast I don't think she had time to react.
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,885 posts)flashman13
(2,602 posts)Freddie
(10,166 posts)Will THAT be enough to get the Repugs to consider the 25th Amendment? Probably not.
RVN VET71
(3,229 posts)What if he does and she hits back? A punch in his face, perhaps? A grabbing at his "wounded ear"? What in the high holy hell would happen then?
AZ8theist
(7,714 posts)The MAGATS would be CHEERING WILDLY that their he-man punched that "uppity" female!!
BaronChocula
(4,882 posts)And he was able to hide it because no one in the public eye ever held him to account. Everyone fell for his BS. But Mary Trump can attest to his lifelong malignant brain, as did Ivana Trump in her famous deposition. We've only seen it more recently because he's put himself in the position to be more seriously challenged.
hadEnuf
(3,674 posts)He's unstable and should be removed now, along with the Republican majority in the house and senate at election time for allowing this sick, demented individual to remain in charge.
Justice matters.
(10,158 posts)wanting to distract from his thousands of mentions in the epstein files!
surfered
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calimary
(91,135 posts)Freddie
(10,166 posts)Unfortunately the pedophile-in-chief is far too egotistical to do something beneficial like that.
MayReasonRule
(4,140 posts)
Bmoboy
(675 posts)Caught with his hand in the cookie jar, snapping out at the evil person who had the nerve to catch him.
Like a trapped rat.
PCIntern
(28,714 posts)Thats a normal reaction to exposure. This was extreme.
radical noodle
(10,715 posts)He wanted to hit her.
niyad
(134,659 posts)deposition?
rubbersole
(11,311 posts)WiVoter
(1,697 posts)Can you imagine if he would have?
orleans
(37,306 posts)Wednesdays
(23,304 posts)...would be echoing the same sentiment, "She was asking for it and deserved it."
cab67
(3,869 posts)Have a look at comments on Facebook or Youtube on the exchange. "She was a smug, arrogant b***c who got what she deserved."
radical noodle
(10,715 posts)it would have gotten out. She could have filed charges against him.
radical noodle
(10,715 posts)"she had it coming"
kentuck
(115,799 posts)He said there was malevolent narcissistic personality and picked out the instances in the interview that proved his statement. Officially, he said it needed to come from his doctor.
niyad
(134,659 posts)31j20b3
(1 post)trump's doc are entirely boughten.
No trust there
ShazzieB
(22,993 posts)Do you remember any furthsr details about it that I could use as cluea to track it down?
I've tried searching on YouYube, but there are so many videos of doctors talking about his mental and physical condition these days that it's a lot to wade through.
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KS Toronado
(23,994 posts)he never got loud or violent just quiet and confused searching for words.
FakeNoose
(42,726 posts)My sister suffered from FTD for the last 30 years of her life. Of course in the end she had no language ability at all. But when it first started to affect her, back in the late 1990s she had a lot of frustration. She wanted to say something, or understand what was being said to her, and she couldn't or it was very difficult. Conversations went past her and she could only pick out certain words that she still could recognize. Eventually even that became too much for her.
I believe the dementia that PCIntern is discussing (concerning Chump) is not the same type as front-temporal-dementia. Chump is losing control of his emotions, as we saw on TV yesterday, but he hasn't lost his ability to speak and process what's being said to him.
ms liberty
(11,418 posts)Who was a common sense, practical, educated caring retired teacher turned into an unstable paranoid with delusions that we were trying to kill her. In less than 6 months. Not a happy time.
Lewes Body Dementia is one of the types included under the FTD umbrella, if my memory is correct. That's not what my MiL had as far as we know, but I remember it being on the list because of Robin Williams.
FakeNoose
(42,726 posts)He only listens to toadies, and toadies know when they need to keep quiet. Kristen Welker didn't do that, she needled him with questions and she talked over him, challenging his lies.
To Chump, anything that pops into his head MUST BE the truth, since he's unable to distinguish between the REAL truth and his inevitable lies. Therefore anyone who challenges HIM must be lying. This is pathological behavior, but it's not dementia.
PCIntern
(28,714 posts)And I do not believe that Im mistaken with all due respects to the poster whom you were answering.
Ray Bruns
(6,853 posts)PCIntern
(28,714 posts)People have done that with him for decades and lost their shirts. He cannot be reasoned with, since he believes that falsities are true. Sane individuals, even grotesquely malevolent ones know right from wrong.
niyad
(134,659 posts)multigraincracker
(38,172 posts)He is fu*king nuts.
johnnyfins
(4,095 posts)Martin Eden
(15,954 posts)Here's the way I see it:
He projects himself as the greatest man in the world today and perhaps the history of the United States, on par with George Washington. His "landslide" victory in 2024 totally vindicates his claim that the 2020 election was stolen from him. How DARE any lowly reporter ask him questions which challenge or contradict his assertions! The ONLY explanation is she must be crooked or stupid.
How much he believes his own lies is an open question. Unless he is totally delusional, he has to know (despite surrounding himself with yes men) Iran has not begged for mercy, the Strait is still closed, inflation belies his promises, and his poll numbers are abysmal. Multiple sources in his first administration told him he lost the 2020 election, it was not "rigged."
I suspect that deep down he knows these things, and has fear. He is afraid of losing the midterms, being investigated and impeached. Afraid of dying, so he desperately erects monuments to himself. Donald Trump is a sick man mentally, and physically more than is being revealed. The mental pathologies he has always displayed are getting worse.
PCIntern
(28,714 posts)Martin Eden
(15,954 posts)My aunt 's dementia progressed steadily. Early on, she would abruptly lose her train of thought, forget where she was or why. She would repeat herself within a few minutes, not remembering what she had just said. Eventually, she could not recognized her daughters in whose house she lived.
In what I saw of the Welker interview, Trump was thoroughly, emphatically on point. He was visibly angry, likely due to a number of factors. First is his privileged status and antipathy towards anyone who has the gall to confront him -- especially women of color. But deep down, if only subconsciously, he knows things aren't going well for him. Fear is growing, so he compensates with monuments and depicting himself as savior or superhero in hundreds of Truth Social posts.
He's always felt the need to dominate, to win. Self promotion has always been central to his game. He lies about everything, and won't admit anything. Never play defense, always attack.
Those traits have been evident since he entered politics. Now, nearing 80 years old with evidence of his failures growing harder to ignore, he is more easily emotionally triggered.
That's what I'm seeing, which possibly doesn't preclude dementia. At his rallies he likes to "weave" and perseverate in odd tangents, but that's been going on for years. He's an old man who stays up at night posting on social media, which may account for why he nods off in meetings. Recently said "Ukraine" when he meant Iran, but I haven't seen him really lose his train of thought while he's onto something.
Maybe I just don't watch him enough, which is hard to stomach. His malignant narcissism is definitely getting worse, and I will admit I don't have the professional background to disgnose whether dementia has been added to the mix which includes pathological liar.
PCIntern
(28,714 posts)But what youre seeing is a loss of inhibition and the manifestation of unbridled id.
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,885 posts)Stargazer99
(3,580 posts)Freddie
(10,166 posts)They are the only reason hes still in office.
OldBoss
(92 posts)My 81yo mom is the same way especially with sundowners and later in the day. Shes a sweet and compassionate person but when she gets sideways theres absolutely no reasoning with her, even over the simplest of things, you just gotta disengage and walk away, there is zero benefit to debating her regardless of the topic. She always feels like shes being attacked and gets defensive and nasty.
On the potus front, I legit dont understand how hes still above ground. Hes obviously very unhealthy, eats poorly, doesnt sleep - all recipes for disaster.
'The Biden cognitive cover-up was the crime of the century for MAGA but here they are enabling much worse. Words fail.
bmichaelh
(1,289 posts)BEATRICE
a very dull fool;
only his gift is in devising impossible slanders. None but
libertines delight in him, and the commendation is not
in his wit, but in his villainy.
--Shakespeare, Much Ado About Nothing 2.1.125-128
PROSPERO
Thou liest, malignant thing!
--Shakespeare, The Tempest 1.2.257
MARCUS
He takes false shadows for true substances.
--Shakespeare, Titus Andronicus 3.2.81
peggysue2
(12,629 posts)Too frequently, Trump will rewrite the narrative where he was forceful and right and gave the 'fake' journalist (in this case, Kristen Welker) a well-deserved beat down. He loved doing this to Jim Acosta who had the audacity to rely on facts and would push back on obvious lies.
Haven't heard that Trump has extended his aggression towards Welker. Instead, he reportedly blamed his anger on the . . . rain.
The fake news is now in control of the weather. Who knew?
When I saw clips of that interview I thought Trump was gearing up for an on-camera stroke. His face was scarlet and that expression wasn't normal anger; it was uncontrollable rage.
This is clearly a mentally deranged man who for several minutes revealed his psychosis to the entire world.
He must know how bad it was. Otherwise we'd be listening to him rewrite the script, yowling on and on about what a crap, light-weight reporter Welkin is.
Rain made him do it??
Lame and lamer.
Frasier Balzov
(5,139 posts)As always, individualized and patient centric.
This patient?
Euthanasia.
Kid Berwyn
(25,283 posts)The pathologists will have a career case, should he donate his brain to science. The study would reveal signs of everything from KGB programming and CIA directed energy weaponry to Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy and whatever pubic hair Epstein was putting on his Diet Coke. Hope they wear the best splash suits in the inventory and two sets of gloves.
chouchou
(3,381 posts)vapor2
(5,028 posts)chouchou
(3,381 posts)Fla Dem
(27,820 posts)I do appreciate your medical analysis of Trump's demented behavior, of which we have seen plenty of in the past few years.
However I thought Ms Welker solidly held her ground and totally intimidated Trump.
Although he did try talking over her. As his face got redder Ms Welker continued to be very very direct with her questioning. I did not see anything indicating she was "taken aback". She overwhelmed him and his only option was to give up, criticize her, call her names, and runaway because she was eating him alive.
My impressions are not backed up by any type of medical / psychology degree.
IbogaProject
(6,118 posts)She asked for any kind of evidence shich he obviously doesn't have. He is trapped with a circle of yes people and an entire media aparatus that feeds him just enough to feel confident in his anger.
MustLoveBeagles
(17,852 posts)She really pushed back on him. Then she said something I considered whiny that I felt undermined what happened before. I based this on reading the transcript. I didn't want to watch it but maybe I should anyway. It sounds like it got dangerously close to assault.
Moostache
(11,319 posts)A few years back, when my dad's dementia began to accelerate and become more debilitating, we had to take away his car keys and stop him from driving any longer. He had become dangerous to himself and others and simply could not be allowed to drive but it fell to me to take the keys away and tell him he would not be getting them back.
That was the angriest I ever saw my dad at me since I was arrested as a 11-year old for criminal mischief for breaking out the windows of an empty house down the street. I got bullied into it by the neighborhood goon/bully but went along with it and had to pay the price (fined, no record, probation for 12 months unsupervised...but took a few swats from the fraternity pledge paddle for my troubles). When I took the keys and told him he would not be getting them back he exploded. Red faced, shaking, just awful memory. It took more than a week for him to talk to me again after that. We never spoke of it again - it was my dad's way of apologizing, accepting the verdict and not fighting or ever raising it again after that, but I remember it all too vividly.
Under almost all conditions, I do not wish the ravages of dementia on any family, but in the case of Trump and Uday and Qusay and the rest of that fucking criminal cabal (lining their pockets with ill-gotten graft around the planet) I hope that they face it in spades and I hope behind closed doors his erratic behavior and hygiene deficiencies are overwhelming and leave permanent bad memories for them all.
PCIntern
(28,714 posts)Youre not alone
BigmanPigman
(55,683 posts)He knew what was coming and he knew the reporter. He should have expected being questioned about the bad shit he has been doing. Did he think he could control the narrative and outwit her? Piggy is having another meltdown, so sad. I hope he does more of these interviews. It helps to push him over the ledge sooner than later.
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Nasruddin
(1,305 posts)People should have their own security in his presence. For everyone's safety.
He's physically too infirm to do much but unlike her I would NOT have let him reach out and touch me - you just don't know what somebody in that state is going to try. He needs to have his own team take care of his issues.
andym
(6,072 posts)from the Dementia Society of America
Early Signs of BvFTD
The early signs of bvFTD can be subtle and may be mistaken for other conditions, such as depression or anxiety. However, it is important to be aware of the early signs of bvFTD so that you can seek diagnosis and treatment as early as possible.
Some of the early signs of bvFTD can include:
Changes In Personality: People with bvFTD may become more impulsive, socially inappropriate, or apathetic. They may also neglect their personal hygiene or have changes in food preferences.
Emotional Symptoms: People with bvFTD may experience apathy, depression, or mood swings. They may also have difficulty expressing or understanding emotions.
Cognitive Impairments: People with bvFTD may have difficulty planning and organizing tasks, focusing on tasks, or making decisions. They may also have difficulty with executive function, which is the ability to plan, organize, and execute tasks.
Language Difficulties: People with bvFTD may have difficulty understanding or producing speech. They may also have difficulty with word finding or grammar.
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The only one of these that Trump showed yesterday is "more impulsive", and he has always been highly impulsive, judging by his spur of te moment decisions. He did not show language difficulties, cognitive impairments or difficulty expressing or understanding emotions. He only showed intolerance for being contradicted.
Justice matters.
(10,158 posts)Also called PSYCHOLOGICAL PROJECTION (conscious or not).
rurallib
(64,882 posts)Goes to show how reliable race is as a measuring stick.
Sparkly
(24,945 posts)He steered the topics he spoke (ranted, whined) about. Anything Welker said he simply ignored. Was it the effort of ignoring her that rankled him, or his self-chosen topics of conversation? He seemed to work himself up into a lather by listing a lot of gripes - "man yelling at clouds" style - then huff that he wasn't going to have any more of this terrible conversation with himself.
PATRICK
(12,439 posts)parallel to bad behavior probably since infancy. The question is tactics. Trump is needed to be engaged and he is too old and burning out. Besides the drug cocktails they are experimenting with there is raw panic they cannot let him out anymore. The interview seemed planned to keep him him on message then energize himself with RAGE, then walk out. As it showed that is too risky.
People or animals on rage seem to have persistent energy, causing stress for others- which did not work on the professional reporter. Then storm out and change pants, which was a planned contingency at least.
It started to look like a showpiece of "strength" and ended like 28 Days. Good thing he didn't bite her. The clinical diagnosis is interesting, but practically this looks like panic behind the scenes. Yes, no one trundled out Truth Social garbage because Trump is getting exhausted(bored my a$$), zoning out or giddy with meaningless pet projects medical prop ups. How to withdraw him more OR are they just trying to kill him? What will they give him to Gish Gallup thru July 4th? Is rage all they have left in the tank?
It stokes his followers, but the Emperor is too old to even be Nero. This isn't just your family member getting old. There is a host of tools behind behaving worse and with plans that will become more visible as they prop and rig and ruin everything.
Orrex
(67,468 posts)That would be cool.