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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHow many of you have seen the film "Idiocracy"?
Adam Kinzinger has been blogging about it, pointing out the many parallels to the Trump Admin.
The President of the United States is Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho a former pro wrestler and porn star turned head of state, who opens his State of the Union address by firing a machine gun into the air from a stage surrounded by pyrotechnics, monster trucks, and screaming fans. He communicates in slogans. He doesnt know how to fix anything. But hes entertaining, and in the world of Idiocracy, thats the whole job...
When Idiocracy was released, it felt like a warning. By 2016, it felt like a prophecy. By now, it feels like a documentary with a ten-year delay.
Consider the parallels. President Camacho is a pro wrestler turned entertainer turned head of state. Donald Trump is a pro wrestler legitimately, having appeared in WWE events and been inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame turned reality TV star turned President of the United States. Both men built their brands on spectacle, dominance, and the performance of strength to adoring crowds. Neither was elected because of policy expertise. Both were elected because they were watchable..
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Aristus
(72,617 posts)I was in a deep, depressed daze for weeks after I watched it. And I won't watch it again. If I want shit that depressing, I can always turn on the news.
mainer
(12,588 posts)You're right, it doesn't seem like a comedy at all now.
mwmisses4289
(4,808 posts)UpInArms
(55,452 posts)that makes my head hurt
mwmisses4289
(4,808 posts)UpInArms
(55,452 posts)thanks for the clarification
thought crime
(1,817 posts)I feel like Fred Armisen and Bill Hader could have done a better job.
UpInArms
(55,452 posts)have watched it several times since and given copies to many people
It was a mockumentary that has become a prescient docudrama
PatSeg
(53,676 posts)and I got a really bad feeling about it - "My god, that's where we're headed!"
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Sequoia
(12,785 posts)Bettie
(19,923 posts)and it was a prescient warning.
However, the people weren't evil, they were stupid, but not malicious.
The current crop of idiots are also mean, filled with malice.
Lovie777
(23,907 posts)shithole and the Republican Party are dumber coupled with so much hatred.
Initech
(109,366 posts)littlemissmartypants
(34,651 posts)ms liberty
(11,400 posts)Amurikka is such a disappointment. 'Muricans even more so.
alittlelark
(19,147 posts)Link to Idiocracy streaming on Internet Archive
https://archive.org/details/Idiocracy_201507
JPK
(1,000 posts)The parallels between the rise of Hitler and Trump is truly amazing. Frightening really.
Baitball Blogger
(52,759 posts)I think it was a teaser, because the reality is much, much worse. The documentary of Trump's rise and fall in the presidency will go beyond reason and understanding. For some, it will be a reminder that the US was never immune from the same social dynamics that took Germany down. And worse, we will need to find a way to live alongside of racists who will begin to gaslight us once they realize their reign of terror is over.
awesomerwb1
(5,161 posts)It's an absurd movie that in a lot of ways describes our current reality.
crud
(1,287 posts)Was actually more cogent and sensible than tRump's. At least they wanted to hear what the smart guy had to say.
whopis01
(3,937 posts)Last edited Sat May 30, 2026, 09:23 AM - Edit history (1)
And you arent kidding about the similarities.
littlemissmartypants
(34,651 posts)watch?v=
If you want to embed the video so DU readers who may be interested can see it. 😉 ❤️
whopis01
(3,937 posts)Living up to your screenname!
Snackshack
(2,603 posts)Not long after renting it that it was a documentary cleverly disguised as a comedy. I tried watching not long ago again but now it hits like Saving Private Ryan did my grandfather.
Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho in 2028...
cksmithy
(527 posts)When it was first released, my 25 year old daughter told us about. At that time, we thought we were heading in that direction. Since the 2016 election, we worried it would come true. Now, 10 years later, it is true. The pictures of the White House side by side, says it all. (Someone has already posted that meme. )
"It has the electrolytes that plants crave." I keep expecting to hear that.
Wiz Imp
(10,534 posts)He was involved in the WWF/WWE for a while, but he was was never remotely a wrestler.
https://www.wwe.com/superstars/donald-trump
A record number of viewers tuned in to watch The Donald back Bobby Lashley to victory over Mr. McMahons Umaga and subsequently shave the WWE Chairmans signature mane in the center of the ring.
The business magnates locked horns again in June 2009 when Trump purchased Monday Night Raw and immediately announced that next weeks show would air commercial-free and that every WWE fan that who purchased a ticket would be given a full refund. The trademark Trump public relations flourish nearly made Mr. McMahons head explode and forced him to buy his show back from The Donald for twice the price.
It was all a pathetic act. (obviously Trump couldn't act either) He never wrestled. Any legitimate wrestler would have killed him.
eppur_se_muova
(42,610 posts)It seems like something you could believe him trying to do.
CaptainTruth
(8,274 posts)Marcuse
(9,107 posts)live love laugh
(16,518 posts)Sequoia
(12,785 posts)A video was posted with Trump talking about electrolytes which I posted (not here), and referenced this movie. Ten bloody years ago.
question everything
(52,471 posts)Wounded Bear
(64,712 posts)alittlelark
(19,147 posts)jmowreader
(53,443 posts)Specifically, all the "behind closed doors" stuff.
Idiocracy is FULL of technology that the people depicted in the film couldn't have made in a million years - electric cars the police can pull over by remotely disabling their batteries, the Carl's Jr vending machine with a built-in self defense mechanism, the light rail system at Costco, the big-screen TVs, the animated billboard, all the ultra-processed foods people eat, the barcode tattoo machine and the diagnostic machine at the hospital are just the ones I can think of. Oh yeah, and also the vehicles used in Monday Night Rehabilitation. SOMEONE is behind the scenes creating these things. Plus, SOMEONE had to invent Brawndo and make the decision to buy several government agencies so they could act free of controls.
The same thing is happening in our government. A series of right wing think tanks and hostile foreign governments are telling Trump and his GOP minions what to do.
EuterpeThelo
(454 posts)President Camacho was dumb but he tried to figure out how he could make things right. With this lot, cruelty is among the GOALS.
Emile
(43,462 posts)Xavier Breath
(6,689 posts)One viewing was enough for me. There are too many good movies for me to waste my time with a second viewing.
FrankTC
(267 posts)Loved the movie, still have a Brawndo coffee mug (somebody disappeared my Antifa mug -- maybe a Trumper in my family -- but I'll get another). The movie extrapolates current trends to their ridiculous end, and nuance and complexity are of course gone. I think there's too much emphasis on selective breeding for low IQ (actually, IQ has been increasing in recent years, a well established though almost unbelievable trend) and not enough emphasis on economic structures as determinative. But it's great entertainment for what it is.
live love laugh
(16,518 posts)AI summary:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeltnietzel/2023/03/23/american-iq-test-scores-show-recent-declines-according-to-new-study/
1:23 PM
32. Idiotic To The Absurd
Loved the movie, still have a Brawndo coffee mug (somebody disappeared my Antifa mug -- maybe a Trumper in my family - but I'll get another). The movie extrapolates current trends to their ridiculous end, and nuance and complexity are of course gone.
I think there's too much emphasis on selective breeding for low IQ (actually, IQ has been increasing in recent years, a well established though almost unbelievable trend) and not enough emphasis on economic structures as determinative. But it's great entertainment for what it is.
hunter
(40,892 posts)It won't be less intelligent people having more kids that brings about Idiocracy, it will be people relying on AI instead of their own brains.
Use it or lose it.
FrankTC
(267 posts)Happy to learn that the Flynn effect hasnt been supported by recent data. It has been puzzling to think that people who have been getting smarter on average would vote for Donald Trump, whose version of the Beatitudes includes Blessed are the igoramuses, for they will queue up for lobotomies. Still, I think that the movies dips into victim blaming the feral cretinism of the depicted populace is in reality a result not so much of genetics but of
manufactured stupidity.
ALBliberal
(3,398 posts)biocube
(277 posts)the "Time Macheen" amusement park ride part that goes through the allies defeating the Nazis and how "the UN un-Nazied the world". That's just a strange thing to put in a movie about evolution in reverse.
sinkingfeeling
(58,105 posts)GoCubsGo
(35,034 posts)When I saw that first few minutes, I thought, "Oh shit! I can easily see this becoming our future." Here we are, only we have President Donald John Diet Coke Herbert Trump, and "protein" instead of "electrolytes." Except that it's way worse, and not at all comedic.
Raine1967
(11,694 posts)I can't watch anymore. What was satire is now kinda painful.
Ivermectin is the new Brawndo.
Justice matters.
(10,109 posts)Titled: "Soylent Green"
thought crime
(1,817 posts)Note that 'Soylent Green' is too subversive for a remake, as is 'They Live'. Now we get dumbed down Marvel Heroes.
mahina
(20,755 posts)But I do not accept it!
jmbar2
(8,199 posts)The first time, I just thought it was a goofy but enjoyable flick. The second time was after Trump's first reign of error and I was shocked at how prescient it is.
If you haven't seen it, treat yourself. It's not a masterpiece, but it IS a good piece of satire with salience for today.
Luz
(929 posts)pansypoo53219
(23,202 posts)liberalgunwilltravel
(1,266 posts)And have watched it several times since. Have recommended over the years to friends and family, especially during fatass first term.
As a matter of fact, I just asked a good friend yesterday if he had his tickets to the Memorial Day monster truck rally on South Lawn of the White House with thinly veiled reference to it. Being in on the joke he replied he did, and his seats were near the mud wrestling pit.
The sad part is, none of the is funny anymore.
My greatest fear though, is that when the next pandemic arrive RFK roadkill and Fatass will be recommending Brawndo as a cure.
How far and how fast we have fallen.
Ilsa
(64,623 posts)and jokes. He dumbs down policy so the uneducated will buy into it and they'll feel so smart about it, even though they are grateful they don't have to think.
Hassler
(4,973 posts)jonstl08
(577 posts)Saw it a few years ago. Thought I would never actually live through a real version of it though.
IcyPeas
(25,876 posts)JoseBalow
(9,791 posts)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiocracy
It's a must-see classic!
LeftInTX
(34,871 posts)That was about 15 years ago or so.
My son has a demented sense of humor. "Mom you gotta see this".
He also liked that Wayan's movie, "Don't Be a Menace to South Central While Drinking Your Juice in the Hood"
littlemissmartypants
(34,651 posts)mental disorder. It is twice as
common as schizophrenia,
anorexia, and bipolar disorder.
It is equally common as bulimia,
panic disorder, and autism.
The only mental disorders
significantly more common than
psychopathy are substance abuse
or dependence, depression, and
post-traumatic stress disorder.
Psychopathy affects all
ethnic, cultural, racial,
and socioeconomic groups.
...psychopathy
is a spectrum disorder,
Prevalence in the United States
Approximately 70% of the
population is estimated to
have no psychopathic traits
whatsoever.
Key Point
👇👇👇👇👇👇
The remaining
30% have low, medium, or
high levels of psychopathy.
Source:
https://psychopathyis.org/stats/
1. Aggressive, callous, and cunning
2. Complete absence of conscience and empathy
3. Very adept at manipulating others
4. Willingness to engage in immoral, criminal conduct
5. Willingness to take what they want and do as they please, regardless of who is hurt or wronged
6. Deceptive ability to appear outwardly benevolent
7. Deceptive ability to behave in superficially charming ways to hide purely selfish motives
8. Willingness to use intimidation and violence to control others in order to satisfy their own needs
9. Willingness to intentionally violate the basic inherent human rights of others
10. Complete absence of any sense of guilt or remorse for the harm their actions have caused to others
11. Rationalization of their own immoral behavior
12. Will attempt to lay blame upon someone else for their own conduct
13. Denial, will deny their own wrongdoing outright
14. Utter contemptuousness toward the feelings and desires of their fellow beings
15. Pathological lying, will say anything without any concern for truth to advance their own hidden agendas
16. Ablity to feign [fake] normal human emotions and empathy
17. Distorted sense of the consequences of their actions
18. Total failure to accept any responsibility for their own socially irresponsible ways
19. Strong bellef that they will never be brought to justice for their criminal behavior
Learn how to spot one. If for no other reason than to save humanity and you might save democracy along the way.
❤️
OAITW r.2.0
(32,720 posts)Oddly prescient of our current reality.
alterfurz
(2,688 posts)
hydrolastic
(550 posts)" i'me the smartest man ? That test wasn't even hard ! "
" use water on the crops? The stuff in the toilet ?! "
" House of " REPRESENTIN "
gulliver
(14,113 posts)I think Idiocracy is definitely really good, but it's way too kind when it comes to human nature. As long as we are allowed to choose who we have kids with, there are going to be a whole lot of people with true merit, whether that be IQ, EQ, beauty, skill, whatever.
The question really is what a huge majority of idiots, be they religious fanatics or just bands of wildly divergent, angry, mentally lost people do. In a true Idiocracy, without AI, the two smart people from the past wouldn't last five seconds.
SamuelTheThird
(1,298 posts)In it, automated systems were able to sustain society. That's truly fantasy
And President Camacho would be preferable to trump.