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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums'Harris would've been worse!'
Thats a retort I hear when discussing how much things have gone south under the felon.
Okay, show me an alternate universe where a Harris Presidency has 15% unemployment, where gas is $10+ a gallon, more troops are dying in Iran than they did in Vietnam and where late night comedians are being targeted as they are in real life, while social programs are being cut further as she empties that money into her own account as part of unprecedented presidential corruption and Ill eat my hat and say she wouldve been worse.
Anything short of any or all of that and youre just saying you couldnt handle a woman of color in the Oval Office.
niyad
(134,165 posts)Hugin
(38,031 posts)Before any reply Id need a long pause to decide whether the speaker belonged in a museum or a freak show.
EnergizedLib
(3,167 posts)Hugin
(38,031 posts)Particularly in basements and under rocks.
Grim Chieftain
(2,103 posts)SocialDemocrat61
(8,070 posts)Usually from Magats and Stein supporters, along with the 'lesser of two evils' comment.
EnergizedLib
(3,167 posts)mvd
(65,962 posts)Its so stupid that it sounds like them.
MLWR
(1,093 posts)Only for those whose bigotry, misogyny and racism makes it impossible for them to deal with a Black, female POTUS. For this country and the entire world, she would have been "light years" better.
FakeNoose
(42,533 posts)We aren't talking about MAGAs, we're talking about the general US population of independent voters. People who don't usually take sides, and don't take part in the D vs. R screaming matches.
Those are the voters that we need to get on our side if we're ever going to win the White House again.
If Kamala Harris had been male, she would have beaten the snot out of Chump. That's the truth.
And I believe the same about Hillary Clinton, in case you're wondering.
popsdenver
(2,669 posts)Regretfully, the independents just weren't voting for a woman, once again. Let alone a Black Woman..........
If the Dems would have been smart, they would have allowed Biden, (a white male) to run again, since his odds were better of winning. Then after becoming president, he could have retired shortly after taking office, and let her take over.......
And don't get me started on Hillary. She was incredibly MORE qualified for the job, than any other candidate in the last 60? years.
The 2016 election was stolen by the NRA, Russian and U.S. Oligarchs Money, the Republican owned/operated Mainstream Media, Corporations, Putin, and election corruption by the Republican Party........
FoxNewsSucks
(11,954 posts)It absolutely was stolen
MichMan
(17,433 posts)That's why Democrats were pushing for him to withdraw after the debate. They thought if he was replaced their prospects would be much better.
popsdenver
(2,669 posts)Was due to Trump "Gish Galloping" Biden, an old old debate tactic that Bidens preparers should have prepared him for......
google "Gish Gallop" for technique...........
calimary
(90,952 posts)Dammit!!!
BeneteauBum
(804 posts)Anything outside their conditioned beliefs is absurd.
Peace ☮️
ms liberty
(11,393 posts)calimary
(90,952 posts)Soul_of_Wit
(154 posts)Those are the two possible "responses" to the debate prompt from MAGA.
barbtries
(31,364 posts)an idiotic statement. ANYONE else would have been better. Harris is actually qualified, and she cares about the people. I just can't.
TBF
(37,315 posts)Kamala and Hillary were both rejected. Barack Obama was able to get elected because he was male. Definitely there is still racism in this country, but the sexism is even stronger. I have watched it for many decades. I should also add that it's not just men holding women down, it's also conservative women. And that needs to be said (for reference I'm a white woman and I know what I see - I have dealt with them for years in schools, organizations, workforce etc).
Tree Lady
(13,389 posts)A lot of women think men should be in charge, not just republicans. Its a very old fashioned idea.
relogic
(274 posts)Spoken like a true liar. What is worse for them is the disassociation from a reality they cant handle. Fact- intelligent, racially mixed women put you to shame for your bigoted, misogynistic world view.
The country and current administration is loaded secretly and overtly with these types to the disgust of voters who tried their best to elevate the stature of The Presidency, but were outmaneuvered by a corrupt media apparatus and treasonous party.
videohead5
(3,005 posts)Harris would not have put high tariffs on over 200 countries and drove prices up. She also would not have went to war with Iran. She also would not have given huge tax breaks to the rich and cut Medicaid and SNAP benefits. They are just making lame excuses.
Festivito
(13,926 posts)We must let them know why they should vote for democrats. The media will not do it and will very much do the opposite.
lastlib
(28,687 posts)...from a misogynistic, weaseling idiot" would be my likely response. Then watch them try to weasel their way out of the comparison.
Soul_of_Wit
(154 posts)Both Clinton and Harris would have done far better than DEI hires. They would have attempted to appoint the best. Compare and contrast to the MAGA ideal, which is that you must hire the best possible person in every situation. That RWNJ ideal is a dog whisper for "the best possible white man."
The reality is much worse. The best possible person is (at best) an incompetent sycophant. At worst, it is an alcoholic or grifter or future/past felon. The GOP claim to fame is that their administrations have far more felons, far fewer jobs created, and the biggest, best increases to the national debt. End rant.
Walleye
(45,581 posts)unblock
(56,279 posts)Calvinball being the game from the Calvin & Hobbes comic strip wherein rules are basically made up as you go.
The modern right-wing propaganda game is simply that the loyal masses have agreed to parrot back the party line with zero critical thinking, and they insist that they win the argument simply by refusing to ever admit that they're wrong. That's the sum total of all debating logic to them.
An earlier form if this was when wrestling (wwe) fans insisted it was real (not staged, scripted, etc) despite obvious evidence such as elite "competitors" turning their backs to their opponents to preen at the crowd, allowing the opponent to get in a "surprise" attack. The game was simply to refuse to agree that it was anything other than an honest competition.
Not an ounce of integrity or merit to their views or positions if they're basically just gaslighting everything.
I could list reasons why Harris (or just about anyone, really) would have been far better, but it's a waste of breath. They're not interested in actual logic, they just enjoy seeing us pissed and annoyed and angry.
ColoringFool
(1,159 posts)biocube
(275 posts)Dare I say it...even more obvious than 2000 and that's not easy to pull off.
Skittles
(173,027 posts)it is pathetic
Morbius
(1,144 posts)Or because she's a she, and not a he. Sure, some are racist and some are misogynistic, but most who would say this simply believe that the worst Republican is better than the best Democrat.
Yes, it's ridiculous. But we live in hyper partisan times.