General Discussion

Takket

(23,810 posts) Mon May 25, 2026, 09:27 AM 15 hrs ago

Prasad and RFK are murderers and should be in prison

The VAERS system abuse goes back to drumpf's first term when people with a political agenda flooded it with lies to "poison the well" against the Covid vaccine. (VAERS should not exist. if anyone can flood the system with lies, then it is useless as a scientific tool).

Prasad and RFK are now exposed, definitively. The COVID vaccine does not kill kids. But their lies driving people AWAY from vaccines, is absolutely killing kids. They should be held responsible for their lies and charged with manslaughter.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/no-child-deaths-definitively-linked-covid-shots-fda-says-rcna346514?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma&taid=6a110a2da88c290001712dd3&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium

Prasad’s claims were used to help justify proposed changes to how the FDA reviews vaccines. He left the agency in April after facing criticism over delays and rejections involving several treatments for rare diseases.

“To sort of imply that there was a wholesale or large number of kids killed by the vaccine, I think, goes beyond what the evidence seems to be here” in the report, said Dr. Jesse Goodman, a former FDA chief scientist and an infectious disease specialist at Georgetown University Medical Center.

The FDA’s analysis surfaced in a letter Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wis., sent this month to Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. regarding transparency around Covid vaccine safety. An HHS official confirmed the report was authentic.

In normal times, the fact that government officials at HHS blatantly lied to the public and got caught would be a scandal of unusual size.

Everyone involved in this disinformation scheme against the people of the United States should be held accountable.
— Elizabeth Jacobs, PhD (@elizabethjacobs.bsky.social) 2026-05-23T21:30:24.264Z

This entire situation is nothing less than shocking. The academic dishonesty alone should disqualify everyone involved from any science-related position, permanently.

I think it may actually be impossible for me to overstate how treacherous and dangerous this is.
— Elizabeth Jacobs, PhD (@elizabethjacobs.bsky.social) 2026-05-23T21:34:59.500Z

This isnâ€™t a difference of opinion over a methodology detail in a scientific study. This is not a misinterpretation of results.

What Makary, Prasad, and Hoeg did was lie to the public in service of RFK Jr.â€™s anti-vaccine political agenda. Period.
— Elizabeth Jacobs, PhD (@elizabethjacobs.bsky.social) 2026-05-23T21:44:53.081Z

5 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Prasad and RFK are murderers and should be in prison (Original Post) Takket 15 hrs ago OP

I agree, These Quacks have done major damage to the American health system. chouchou 15 hrs ago #1

much of this is rfk jr's dunning kreuger syndrome rampartd 14 hrs ago #4

Your words are true. chouchou 11 hrs ago #5

I don't disagree with most in your OP, but VAERS system predated COVID-19 by decades. hlthe2b 15 hrs ago #2

I really do appreciate you passing along this information. Please edit your post to rfk JR instead of RFK. mucifer 15 hrs ago #3

chouchou

(3,334 posts)

1. I agree, These Quacks have done major damage to the American health system.

Reply to Takket (Original post)

Mon May 25, 2026, 09:55 AM

15 hrs ago

I've always wondered when so-called professionals start going against the many-results-of science, they
start their opposite reality because of the worse ideas>>> Just Because..and they are in the spotlight for awhile.

rampartd

(5,113 posts)

4. much of this is rfk jr's dunning kreuger syndrome

Reply to chouchou (Reply #1)

Mon May 25, 2026, 10:59 AM

14 hrs ago

he somehow thinks a teen age heroin habit made him the smart guy at school.

appointing him was a crime against humanity. cassidy got some of what he deserves last primary.

chouchou

(3,334 posts)

5. Your words are true.

Reply to rampartd (Reply #4)

Mon May 25, 2026, 01:26 PM

11 hrs ago

hlthe2b

(114,747 posts)

2. I don't disagree with most in your OP, but VAERS system predated COVID-19 by decades.

Reply to Takket (Original post)

Mon May 25, 2026, 10:04 AM

15 hrs ago

The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) was established in 1990 to be a means of reporting events that COULD POSSIBLY be associated with vaccine administration. It was always meant to be an UNFILTERED submission system which would then be reviewed by experts at CDC and FDA to look for reports with consistent findings and documentation to INVESTIGATE for any CORRELATION to vaccine receipt. Nothing in VAERS suggested then or now a causal relationship. It was always meant to be an unfiltered repository upon which CDC epidemiologists and FDA regulators could review and as necessary launch an in depth investigation In the event a correlation of concern was identified from those initial investigations, a detailed and rigorous medical and epidemiological review would have been launched to determine what, if any action was indicated--including anything from more refined recommendations on use to actual FDA withdrawal of approvals for the vaccine.

So, yes, the idiots who knew nothing about VAERS but ASSUMED its data was VALIDATED (NO), ACCURATE (NOT NECESSARILY), and CAUSAL (Absolutely NOT) bastardized that useful data system to launch anti-vax conspiracy theories and propaganda. It accelerated during COVID-19 and RFK Jr was a big part of that then, earlier, and certainly now.

But, the lack of understanding of this TOOL for CDC and FDA to interact with physicians and public health departments (providing all types of vaccines), along with what I consider INTENTIONAL malign intent to destroy CDC and the public's confidence in ALL vaccines, is what caused this VAERS-related weaponization campaign to have the impact that it did.

I don't disagree with much of the rest that you posted, Takket, but this is an important point to clarify. And yes, I know the history intensely well.

mucifer

(25,734 posts)

3. I really do appreciate you passing along this information. Please edit your post to rfk JR instead of RFK.

Reply to Takket (Original post)

Mon May 25, 2026, 10:13 AM

15 hrs ago

RFK was someone entirely different.

I know we all know who you are talking about. Just my pet peeve. I think Sr. deserves that respect.

Reply to this discussion