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This would eliminate Democrats eating themselves, would eliminate fights between moderates and progressives.

Are you kidding?

Just to learn from any mistakes.

It doesn’t seem right that all 7 Swing States went for Trump, just beyond the amount not to trigger a recount.

So I don’t know where you got your information from.

Arizona's automatic recount threshold is .5%. But the election results were 52.2% - 46.7%. Hardly "just outside" of a .5% difference at a 5.5% difference.

Wisconsin doesn't have an automatic recount either. If the difference is .25% a candidate can request a tax payer recount. Maybe you consider .9 just outside of .25, but I wouldn't.

Nevada also doesn't have an automatic recount threshold. The difference there was 3.1%, again hardly close enough for a recount to change things.

Georgia also doesn't have an automatic recount. One can be requested if the difference is .5 or less. But the difference was 2.2. Not very close to the level where a recount can be requested.

Pennsylvania has a .5 automatic recount threshold, but the difference was 1.7. Again, not just above the threshold.

North Carolina has a statewide recount of the lower of a 10,000 vote or .5 difference. The vote difference was 3.2 or 183,048 votes so it doesn't come close to either threshold.

I’ve been corrected on a number of occasions and that’s ok because getting the facts straight benefits us all.

No money to the DNC until they unfuck themselves, and that includes transparency.

I am donating directly to candidates.

...a hit job on the Democratic party that contains nothing but his sad that the DNC didn't give him ammunition to beat on them.

And it will do exactly what it was designed to do: Generate a bank of cynicism on social media sites like this against Democrats for him to feed off of and monetize.

It doesn't confront the republican opposition, doesn't take any responsibility for promoting or organizing a Democratic majority.

All it does is project scorn on the party which had nothing to do with people like this fellow hounding the incumbent president out of the race; or dropping a THREE MONTH campaign on the VP and expecting her to carry it to the finish while fucks like this fellow dragged her for some other country's problems, Israel, as if they couldn't help themselves.

Solomon would be better served asking himself what the consequence of his own advocacy, or lack of it, was on the outcome of that election.

Here he is still ragging on the party about some other country's problems...

The Guardian
Why are Democratic leaders still ignoring voters on Israel? Norman Solomon
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/apr/14/democrats-voters-israel-gaza-palestine

... with all of the people in THIS nation challenged and suffering because of the government HE enabled into office, this fellow doesn't seem to actually care about anything but dragging Democrats.

Wonder why?

Do an autopsy on this ratfucker.

.... his responses on this matter are unacceptable.

I will support Democrats. I wuill send them as much as I can afford, but I am dissatisfied with the party leadership, and that's because of what I heard right from the Chairman's mouth. I don;t want a chairman who goes back on his word. I don;t want a chairman who is basically invisible in the face of existential crises. We NEED to fix this. And I can only vote with my dollars. Nothing else matters, it seems.

...but the DNC is much more than it's chairman, or it's own campaigning (as if they're supposed to be the subject of our political efforts).

The head of the DNC is responsible for a diverse and often disparate interests from Democrats around the nation. They're not supposed to make them selves the subject of elections by amplifying beyond what candidates and elected officials want or need.

It'd be nice to know, which is one reason I'd like to see the 2024 autopsy.

...bring family and friends along.

Sounds like it would be a smart thing to include.

and differing strategies on how to move forward. No one will be satisfied and everyone will continue to argue about it.

And then not do it? Whatever it REALLY is, it feels like they are hiding something.

I don't.

Again, no one will be satisfied. There are differing opinions on why we lost and how to move forward and the disagreements on both will continue.

Meanwhile we have been winning a lot of elections, so our candidates are clearly doing something right and they are doing so without the released autopsy.

If we get angry at the DNC, then we won't send them any money.

...who is it that fed the Guardian this shit?

Who is it that needs this, and what do they plan to do with it?

Looks like someone is desperate to drag the party instead of the opposition.

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probably is. Consider there were many attempts to explain the results - as there are every election. In fact, the exit polling itself was always considered to be done to help explain the results.

I was hearing from a friend who knew a low level strategist that that person was very concerned we could lose as early as late 2023. In addition, the polling in several swing states was not reassuring.

I worry most about the possibility that a major factor is that the right has gradually taken over so much of the media/information (disinformation) spectrum. This has only gotten worse. I remember being with a British friend in Hawaii. When we turned on the TV in the condo, Fox was on. Her reaction was an outraged " are they allowed to lie?". Well, unfortunately, we all know the answer.

Another concern, though it would be in our favor in 2029, is that the response to if the country is going in the right direction has been low since at least the 2010s. That might explain why the party in power lost all three times. People were unhappy so they voted for change even though they should have known better in 2024! The reason for concern is it seems we have a country where for a decade considerably more than half the country is unhappy.

The only reason I can think of for NOT putting out the autopsy would be if it has logical advise that goes against the interests of the people controlling whether it is released. However, most key trends are already out there as to where we did not do well enough. I suspect that in most states the people running the campaigns saw where their support was weaker than 2020. Obviously, they would have tried to fix that before the election. I would suspect that what these people saw and what they did to try to fix it may be the only real new information that went into the autopsy.

What diabolical secrets are Democrats hiding? There MUST be something bad. CONSPIRACY.

It will just provide fodder to the corporate media and those on the right to trash the democratic party. It only has value to those running democratic campaigns this year and in 28. My hope is that those people have been given private access to it. No one else needs to see it.

reason Democrats lost is apparently there are enough idiots in this country who believed and still believe the lies from a party that lies constantly without shame. Not to mention a completely biased media and judges. Democrats could have done everything right the fact this man and this party has more than 5% approval at this point tells you everything you need to know.

And so does anyone on this forum with even basic critical thinking skills.

And how we ran the 'perfect' campaign for the year 2000.

...and the Democratic Party remains frightened about talking about that.

We aren't run by a self-selected "council of the wise" who get to decide what we get to know. If it's paid for by donations from us Democrats, it's ours to read. Transparency.

While we will continue to soothe our donors so that we may gain the gavel to pass centrist pro corporate legislation that the GOPs will allow.

And thus don’t want to release any negative findings? Or they feel it will confirm what a shit job the DNC did during the election.

Didn't they use some group who said they would do it for free? I remember hearing that on Pod Save America.

They probably paid some consultant a lot of money and they came back with a useless report. Either because they didn't know what they were doing, or the information is contradictory because of the usual issues wirh our party being the bigger tent and less organized. We need to move to the left, but be more centrist. We need to fight against Trump more, but stop focusing on Trump so much. That sort of thing.

rethugs get to the finish line using fraud and dirty tricks.

We didn't get a landslide because of our perceived complicity in the genocide in Gaza, which caused a lot of voters to stay home and/or stupidly support trump. There was an article that showed how those defectors put trump over the top in swing states.

Unfortunately, we still have leaders / members in our party who are making excuses for what we've seen, or even worse, slandering and/or gaslighting those of us who are opposed to it.

That said, trump is truly incompetent and we haven't even seen a tenth of the fallout that's headed our way from all of his ignorant/cruel/corrupt decisions made up to this point. I think Americans can retain memories for at least 2 years so that should be enough to get Democrats through this fall and 2028. However, by 2030, there will have to be some serious updates and revisions to our platform.

it probably is no coincidence that soon after that when Pelosi called for the release, strongly implying that it makes strong claims of election system tampering by Musk and others,

I wonder who they're protecting.