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orleans

(37,186 posts) Sun May 17, 2026, 10:03 PM 20 hrs ago

robert reich: "Hawaii just enacted a law that effectively neuters Citizens United. Montana could soon follow suit"

Hawaii just enacted a law that effectively neuters Citizens United.

Montana could soon follow suit via a ballot referendum.

Here's what you should know about the plans to get Big Money out of politics — and how they could be replicated where you live.

Hawaii just enacted a law that effectively neuters Citizens United.

Montana could soon follow suit via a ballot referendum.

Here's what you should know about the plans to get Big Money out of politics â€” and how they could be replicated where you live.
— Robert Reich (@rbreich.bsky.social) 2026-05-18T00:00:36.381888Z

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robert reich: "Hawaii just enacted a law that effectively neuters Citizens United. Montana could soon follow suit" (Original Post) orleans 20 hrs ago OP

It will be important to frame this as a CONSERVATIVE concept Bluetus 18 hrs ago #1

While I see what you're saying in terms of political philosophy (as it once was), it doesn't need to be framed as Karasu 17 hrs ago #6

Frame it as a quintessentially conservative value and force the fascists to explain Bluetus 4 hrs ago #10

They will make up some lies to explain it like they do every time for every issue Mysterian 4 hrs ago #13

Of course. But with each lie, they lose some support Bluetus 58 min ago #14

Very Cool! We did it, here🌈🌸🍀 in Cha 18 hrs ago #2

just saw this article tonight (from may 15) orleans 18 hrs ago #3

Wouldn't that be GREAT!?! calimary 18 hrs ago #4

Hope this catches on😚 Figarosmom 18 hrs ago #5

Yabut, can the SCOTUMs (Supreme Court of the United MAGATs) declare it unconstitutional? nt Disaffected 16 hrs ago #7

That was my question nt drmeow 8 hrs ago #9

Yup. The oligarchs will just sue and get it to SCOTUS. and it is DOA Takket 4 hrs ago #11

Like Dorothy in "The Wizard of Oz" discovering she had the power to go home all along! betsuni 15 hrs ago #8

Will try to respond tn or on the weekend. Nt gulliver 4 hrs ago #12

Democrat in power? Repukes are for state's rights. sakabatou 53 min ago #15

Bluetus

(3,075 posts)

1. It will be important to frame this as a CONSERVATIVE concept

Reply to orleans (Original post)

Sun May 17, 2026, 11:25 PM

18 hrs ago

which it is.

Karasu

(2,066 posts)

6. While I see what you're saying in terms of political philosophy (as it once was), it doesn't need to be framed as

Reply to Bluetus (Reply #1)

Mon May 18, 2026, 12:58 AM

17 hrs ago

anything other than the right thing to do. There is no salvaging American conservatism.

They already see themselves as the default political philosophy in this fascist climate anyhow, so frankly, they don't need to be pandered to.

Bluetus

(3,075 posts)

10. Frame it as a quintessentially conservative value and force the fascists to explain

Reply to Karasu (Reply #6)

Mon May 18, 2026, 01:18 PM

4 hrs ago

why they should be against it.

Mysterian

(6,623 posts)

13. They will make up some lies to explain it like they do every time for every issue

Reply to Bluetus (Reply #10)

Mon May 18, 2026, 01:37 PM

4 hrs ago

It's not like the republican party has any integrity.

Bluetus

(3,075 posts)

14. Of course. But with each lie, they lose some support

Reply to Mysterian (Reply #13)

Mon May 18, 2026, 05:14 PM

58 min ago

We need to make them play defense.

It is not enough to just sit back knowing that we have the superior reasoning. We must put them in a position where they make their true colors obvious to some portion of their base.

And at the same time, we must show them how their lives will be better if they come to our side.

We don't have to win over 75 million people. We need to get about 10 million to vote with us, or at least stay home. Trump is still trying to hold on to the 10-20 million that are the MAGA base. He's losing a lot with the other 50 million.

Cha

(320,534 posts)

2. Very Cool! We did it, here🌈🌸🍀 in

Reply to orleans (Original post)

Sun May 17, 2026, 11:32 PM

18 hrs ago

Hawaii! 💙 ☮️🌻 🕯️🕊️💜

Mahalo, Orleans.. Good Luck to Montana and other states!

orleans

(37,186 posts)

3. just saw this article tonight (from may 15)

Reply to Cha (Reply #2)

Sun May 17, 2026, 11:51 PM

18 hrs ago

New Hawaiian law limits corporate spending on politics, other states work to follow suit

The Brief
New legislation signed into law on Thursday bans corporations from political spending in Hawaii.
Proponents say the law circumvents Citizens United, the 2010 U.S. Supreme Court decision that ruled limiting corporate spending on political broadcasts was a violation of the First Amendment.
Hawaii is the first state to enact such a law, but over a dozen others, including California and Montana, are working toward similar legislation.

OAKLAND, Calif. - Hawaii’s Democratic Governor on Thursday signed into law a bill to stop corporations and "dark money" groups from spending unlimited amounts of money on politics.

The Aloha State’s S.B. 2471 states that because governments grant a corporation its powers, Hawaii can simply decline to grant the power to spend on elections. The new law goes into effect on July 1, 2027.

more

https://www.ktvu.com/news/new-hawaiian-law-limits-corporate-spending-politics-other-states-work-follow-suit

i hope this gets played out like a line of dominos where states just knock that bullshit from citizens united down down down!

calimary

(90,761 posts)

4. Wouldn't that be GREAT!?!

Reply to orleans (Original post)

Sun May 17, 2026, 11:52 PM

18 hrs ago

Seriously? Citizens United undone!? Finished!?! Over ‘n’ Out?!?

YES!

YES!!

YES!!!

Figarosmom

(13,327 posts)

5. Hope this catches on😚

Reply to orleans (Original post)

Mon May 18, 2026, 12:05 AM

18 hrs ago

Disaffected

(6,567 posts)

7. Yabut, can the SCOTUMs (Supreme Court of the United MAGATs) declare it unconstitutional? nt

Reply to orleans (Original post)

Mon May 18, 2026, 01:32 AM

16 hrs ago

Last edited Mon May 18, 2026, 04:30 PM - Edit history (1)

drmeow

(6,019 posts)

9. That was my question nt

Reply to Disaffected (Reply #7)

Mon May 18, 2026, 09:20 AM

8 hrs ago

Takket

(23,802 posts)

11. Yup. The oligarchs will just sue and get it to SCOTUS. and it is DOA

Reply to Disaffected (Reply #7)

Mon May 18, 2026, 01:27 PM

4 hrs ago

But it is worth doing NOW until such time as they undo it later.

betsuni

(29,287 posts)

8. Like Dorothy in "The Wizard of Oz" discovering she had the power to go home all along!

Reply to orleans (Original post)

Mon May 18, 2026, 02:17 AM

15 hrs ago

No more using Citizens United to attack Democrats.

Lying that campaign finance reform is not one of the most important Democratic issues in every platform, that "billionaires ... can put unlimited amounts of money into both political parties" as if Republicans are't the ones receiving the vast majority because they ARE corrupt

gulliver

(14,075 posts)

12. Will try to respond tn or on the weekend. Nt

Reply to orleans (Original post)

Mon May 18, 2026, 01:27 PM

4 hrs ago

sakabatou

(46,331 posts)

15. Democrat in power? Repukes are for state's rights.

Reply to orleans (Original post)

Mon May 18, 2026, 05:19 PM

53 min ago

Trump et. al in power?

"HOW DARE THE STATES BE AGAINST OUR DEAR LEADER!"

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