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You may hate Bill Maher but as a Democrat, a liberal, you should watch it and then pass judgement.
sarisataka
(22,818 posts)if they can recognize themselves in the points he makes.
Klarkashton
(5,398 posts)Israel that's pretty sad.
question everything
(52,371 posts)among others carry a life long ambition to kill Jews.
And the list of countries is far from short.
Not surprisingly, some here will pick and choose.
stopdiggin
(15,630 posts)That makes Bill Maher a 'requirement'.
(Yes, he may occasionally have something worthwhile to say ... But - see above ... And then the annoyance factor .. )
LudwigPastorius
(14,986 posts)OK, the U.S. doesn't give North Korea, Russia, China, the Sudan, etc. $3.8 billion of weapons every year, so let's start being consistent by ending arms sales to Bibi.
(Note: Maher is the one who introduced the comparison between Israel and those countries.)
question everything
(52,371 posts)and products.
In addition, as with every foreign aid there are strings attached and most of the money has to be used to purchase American products.
muriel_volestrangler
(106,569 posts)Are you saying that since Israel can invent ways to kill people more efficiently, then it's OK to supply them with other arms too? Or that since they're using American-made weapons to kill, then that makes it OK?
LeftInTX
(34,847 posts)They are not confronting other political parties like Party for Socialism and Liberation which is trying to destroy the Democratic Party. PSL is in cahoots with the GOP and Putin. Yet, the Democratic Party twiddles their thumbs and invites them in their space. For pete's sake, they're a rival political party which wants to destroy the Democratic Party.
This Maureen Galindo weirdo is part of them. She's a non-voter and now it looks like she will win her primary runoff.
People on FB are cheering on the fact that she wants her opponent charged with treason. These are people that I know that are cheering her on. These are Democrats. These are precinct chairs. These are former candidates.
This is not good. We are fucked up for allowing this ratfucking within the party. Maureen is receiving money from the GOP. (Likely Roger Stone)
Democratic congressional candidate Maureen Galindo is again stirring up controversy, this time for saying her runoff opponent, former Bexar County Sheriffs Department spokesman Johnny Garcia, should be tried for treason.
[Immigration and Customs Enforcement] is again part of [the Department of Homeland Security], which has headquarters and offices inside Israel, Galindo said on Texas Public Radios The Source with David Martin Davies.
This is an Israeli occupation of America, the candidate for San Antonios 35th Congressional District continued. In fact, I was thinking this morning, maybe Johnny Garcia and others who support him, or anybody who is supported by Israel, should be tried for treason.
A bewildered Davies tried to respond before Galindo cut him off, warning that Israel could be planning genocide in the United States. She didnt elaborate on how that might come about.
https://www.sacurrent.com/news/san-antonio-congressional-candidate-maureen-galindo-wants-rival-tried-for-treason/
We are going to continue to lose elections. Maureen Galindo is the biggest flake. She talks like she has schizophrenia, yet everyone is supporting what she is saying.
It's disgusting. I'm ready to throw in the towel.
The only thing good that could come of it, is that it will make Democrats look like a total laughing stock and she will probably get about 15% of the vote in November. (Her supporters don't care. They think she is the best thing that has happened to the Democratic Party)
Maybe the party needs to hit rock bottom. They aren't going to go anywhere if they are pandering to the Party for Socialism and Liberation. (They are a political party, which is much more dangerous than the Green Party) They are the communist party, who want to overthrow the government........And they have their own presidential candidates and want to destroy the Democratic Party.
carpetbagger
(5,516 posts)It is Netanyahu, and the Israeli voters who uphold his rule. And we're in a war because of him.
The conflation of opposition to Israeli policy with antisemitism is to me personally a sick joke. My own child opposes those policies and is a practicing Jew
Maher is an edge lord.
question everything
(52,371 posts)chanting: Jews will not replace us?
RandySF
(86,111 posts)Theyre not and theyre lumping together and let honest the DSA and other groups arent lifting a finger.
AZProgressive
(29,967 posts)They likely oppose Israel's assault on Gaza and Palestinian territories as well as Iran or Lebanon but I don't think they're lumping them together. There are people on the left or "far left" that are Jewish.
There may be people that think Democrats shouldn't associate with Hasan Piker. I feel similar about Bill Maher but I will still vote for politicians that appear on his show same goes for Piker.
RandySF
(86,111 posts)I dont like Maher but theyre not equivalent.
JI7
(93,874 posts)gulliver
(14,064 posts)Jewphobia is actually disgusting and sad in the same way rabies is. You watch a video of, say, a rabid young fox attacking a human being. You are looking at a really sick animal. It's frightening and pathetic at the same time. Foxes are normally shy, but a rabid fox just loses all control. It's fox brain is destroyed. It's nothing but a biting, attacking, drooling, terrified, angry little robot.
Maher didn't get any real laughs in this clip, and he was actually somewhat mocking the few audience members who laughed. It was uncomfortable.
Maher actually realizes, as I think the audience did, that this "horseshoe" Jewphobia we're seeing in our poor confused world is actually pretty scary and sickening. It's not hypocrisy or mere ignorance or mere stupidity. We wish. A whole lot of the sufferers don't care about hypocrisy or ignorance or stupidity. They're beyond that.
Who really knows what the sick, rabid fox thinks it's fighting when it crawls out of the woods and attacks someone? It's broken. It's not a hypocrite. It's not stupid. It's worse.
RandySF
(86,111 posts)Sympthsical
(11,106 posts)And it's so banal and tedious, it's almost unremarkable in how normalized it's become.
It's interesting because antisemitism doesn't seem to work in the same way usual racism does. Generally, people are frequently raised racist. It's handed down from parents, or communities, or cultures. Racism is something many people have to educate themselves out of, to grow past, to put in an effort to get their heads and their hearts right.
Antisemitism isn't like that. It is increasingly something people grow into. It is taught, it is in academia, it is increasingly considered a progressive play somehow.
There are people in my life I see less and interact with less because over the past few years, they've just morphed into full-on antisemitic. I don't mean they criticize Israel or Netanyahu. I mean they demand American Jews explain themselves. See no problem with the harassment they endure. Think anything bad that happens to them is deserved and explainable.
I've seen people I liked well and admired who went from having an unremarkable if a bit dull and trite critical anti-West posture devolve into full on "If a Jew is involved, it's probably their fault." And they don't hear themselves. They don't see themselves. They do not realize that they've been indoctrinated into thinking patterns straight out of the 19th Century.
They don't see it, don't hear it, cannot be deprogrammed from it.
It's sad, but also bizarre. Because I often wrestle with that lack of self-awareness. I just do not get how they do not hear themselves. And these are people who are hypersensitive to racial offense when any other group is involved. But as soon as Jews are on the table, it's "Well, you have to understand why people want to harass, beat, or kill them . . ."
And they're here. Almost daily I see something on DU that's along this vein. And it's just kind of . . . there now. It's part of being a Democrat. These bigots are tolerated and part of our coalition apparently. "Because Israel!"
I'm watching the direction of the party on this. I watch as they flirt with letting the Hasan Pikers of the world in. And I'll say this simply without threat or ornament - when the Pikers are let in, I'll be out. And that's just how that will go.
betsuni
(29,273 posts)and nothing can change their minds because they are 100% sure they are right. It is black or white. No thinking, only emotion. Anything else is not just wrong but immoral and disgusting.